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Gloves have to be one of the least talked about survival necessities. I guess they are not glamorous enough.

When I am doing my normal thing the Bag of Evil goes everywhere with me. When I fly like I did to go to the Chicago Custom Knife Show or I am going to be dismounted say for a hike, gloves are one of the items that always get transferred to the bag I will be using. Privately and during my professional career I have always been phobic about injuring my eyes and hands. One of the major reasons is that after getting out of the army I worked for a short while doing security for a hospital in Baltimore that served as the regional hand trauma center. I saw just about every hand injury you can think of. Like I have discussed before there are only three ways of injuring the human body, burning, cutting or crushing. The hand, especially your strong hand is the most susceptible to these traumas.

It is not earth shattering news that we use our hands for everything, they are our first line of defense for everything from blocking a punch to falling on our faces. Our hands are used as a probe to survive our would. Is it hot, is it sharp etc.

Any hand trauma no matter how slight can have a massive effect on our survivability and effectiveness. This past weekend at a show, one of my friends pulled a Karambit from it's sheath...right across the first crease of his reaction side pointer finger. The result of the super sharp cut was a puddle of blood in his hand within about 30 seconds. Would this have stopped him during a life or death struggle with an attacker, probably not. But however sad to admit, most situations do not involve fast roping from the space shuttle whacking tango with your custom 1911. I cannot count the times that I have been unfortunate enough to be the first one to respond to show up on the scene of car crashes. These scenes are full of heat and sharp objects. If you try to free someone barehanded only to end up with say a serious laceration or evulsion to a finger on your strong hand, it does not matter how good your first aid kit or skills are, you may not be able to deploy them.

Whenever you know you are going to be exposing yourself to a situation that will likely involve exposure to heat or sharp edges stop for a minute and put on the gloves that should always be within arms reach. During incidents where you have time to respond a little voice inside your head should tell you to put gloves on, work/tactical gloves over rubber gloves are even better. This one small act using an inexpensive pair of gloves coupled with situational awareness can protect your effectiveness like few other things can.

It all comes down to incident survival without caring what the incident is. With mindset, training and tools you can survive anything.
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good thread!

Being an RN and having stopped as the good sam at a few big and many more small wrecks, I always keep a set of latex gloves in the box as well as a set of the nomex summer wt flight gloves for just such a thing.

I shoot with them as well in the fall and winter as they are my "all the time" gloves for driving and such...not terribly expensive and easy to find at the local dry/wet surplus store.

I dont need the super uber go fast turbo tactiCOOL ones...but I def keep a set of rubbers and nomex in my car.
 
I have nitrile gloves all over. I make sure there is a pair in a zip lock in every door pocket of every car I ride in or drive. I also carry some in the glove pouch Eagle makes, it is on the shoulder strap on my Bag of Evil.
 
gauntlet gloves?

I visited your training site recently, and with your experience in blade defense and offense; what protective gloves do you favor?

Especially those that might be multipurpose, such as, keeping your hands warm in Winter, more cut resistant than puncture resistant, and those that still enable feel, for handgun shooting.
 
you know what always confused me? people on motorcycles without gloves. even if you eschew a helmet because you think they don't help, surely you understand that if you hit the ground, your hands are going to get banged up. and what's even worse is fingerless gloves- how good are fingerless hands??
 
Mercop, Great idea. I have two or three sets of Hatch gloves around and keep a pair in each car. I just bought a pair of Blackhawk SOLAG gloves to use while hunting in Wyoming and absolutely love them for protection. They are better than the Hatch gloves. I broke them in gardening and weeding one weekend and they are like a second skin. http://www.lapolicegear.com/blsfufiwinoc.html
 
I prefer the Mechanics type gloves. My requirements of EDC gloves are that I can pick coins up off the street and use my cell phone with them on. As far as knives protecting you again an assault...chances are the assault is spontaneous so gloves are a moot point.
 
My problem with gloves is that I can never find any that fit. I've got pretty small hands, but they are still pretty beefy. So the only pairs that have fingers short enough for me, are too small in general. And if I find a pair that fits my hand, I end up with half and inch of material on the end of each finger. I've looked into Hatch, WileyX and Oakley gloves. So far I haven't seen a pair that work for short fingers but not meant for thin girly hands.
 
I am immediately buying four pairs of cowhide gloves - one for me and one for the wife, for each of our BOBs.

Excellent thread.
 
I understand, for some reason I have very short thumbs for my hand size. The mechanics gloves are pretty good for me.
 
What I'm wondering about is what you do if you have to draw and you're wearing heavy gloves because it's freezing out. Can you get your gloved finger through the trigger guard? Can you click off the safety? Do you take the time to deglove first?
 
I qualified with my Glock 19, M4, MP5 and Mossberg 590 with gloves on and always wore gloves when doing the SWAT thing and put them on whenever I handled a persons call. On patrol I wore cut down nomex flyers gloves.
 
Excellent thread, and it reminds me to keep gloves in the possibles bag. I use gauntlets, actually. To protect both my hands and my forearms.

Can you get your gloved finger through the trigger guard? Can you click off the safety? Do you take the time to deglove first?

Good questions also. And essential to test at the range. I got rid of my trigger shoes because they kept my gloved finger from clearing.
 
I have used Mechanix, Ironclad and Duluth Trading Company gloves. I like all three. Ironclad Heavy Utility are probably a bit heavier duty than the others. I just got a new Duluth trading Company catalog and they have updated their design and I haven't tried them yet.

I carry a pair of gloves all the time. I wear Ironclads while I am hunting and love having the dexterity as well as the protection they afford. They also give a bit of temperature protection.

I haven't thought about carrying nitrile gloves as well. I may start doing that as well.
 
I got rid of my trigger shoes because they kept my gloved finger from clearing.
Cosmo, that is a very good idea. Trigger shoes can be a recipe for a ND without a doubt. I was with another detective who had the local uniform store put a trigger shoe on his Mod 60. He did not realize the shoe protruded outside the trigger guard and when he reloaded and put it in the holster snapped off a round as he seated the gun. Nobody was hurt, but he ruined a pair of pants. . . .
 
Sometimes they are a "necessary evil"

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My problem with gloves is that I can never find any that fit. I've got pretty small hands, but they are still pretty beefy.

Hey taurusowner, I can relate to not being able to find gloves that fit properly. If they are just the proper length for my fingers, then the fingers are way too tight. If the fingers are comfortable, then there is space at the ends.

I bought a pair of Past Recoil Protection (half-fingered) shooting gloves and they didn't work well at all with shooting my 500. I thought they might help reduce the "felt recoil" but they did nothing. Actually, I found it really awkward to shoot with them on.

Then, I bought a pair of driving gloves which didn't do anything either. No matter what I wear for gloves and no matter how well-fitting, the gun just doesn't feel the same as in my bare hand. To be honest, I would rather just feel the recoil.

In the wintertime, where it easily goes below zero here, I must wear some kind of gloves, in which case I hunt and end up having to deal with the bulkiness of gloves. I wouldn't go so far as to say I cannot shoot with them on, it just doesn't feel right when I do shoot, or even hold up the gun, for that matter.
 
I'm a big fan of the Mechanix gloves as well, I usually leave a set in my cars. I have a set of the Oakley gloves, and while they are nifty, I believe they are some overpriced pieces of kit. (Nice, but overpriced.) And I never get on a motorcycle without some good gloves there as well.

Shooting with gloves on is more difficult than without. Short range blasts aren't as much of a problem, but any fine control starts to become more problematic. I do practice with gloves on occasionally to make sure I can still draw and fire OK.
 
"JImbothefiveth This raises a question: If you're carrying, is wearing shooting gloves a good idea? "

Depending on where you live, gloves are often a requirement. In the pacific nw in the winter you didnt have much choice..its cold and wet. that being said..i practiced with and without gloves..which lead to occ choosing weapons based on whether or not i could get a gloved finger in the trigger guard.

i generally wore the summer wt flight gloves for fall/winter and spring...and if it was really nasty outside, i would wear patagonia liners and a gore-tex overmit. 3 fingered sleestak mitts are NOT good for shooting.
 
my bad...sorry..

I wear the summer wt nomex flight gloves in the fall and winter...so I practice with em...but dont generally wear gloves otherwise.

maybe if I was gonna take a run-n-gun class where I would be rolling around in the pigpen/hot brass/and monkey brains smeared all over...then yeah...gloves.
 
Just for grins, I picked up a set of weight lifting gloves, and a set of "shooting gloves" for my contender when at the range. Mostly to give me a "fit" feeling around my right hand, and to cushion in the palm. Fingerless. Not that impressed since I never had a problem with recoil anyway. The weight lifting gloves have a mesh back, so in the summer it is far cooler than otherwise.
Mostly now I use a thin (deer hide) leather glove that is well broken in, especially for continuous shooting.
I use a thin glove with a grippy surface on my left hand when bow hunting, since I have to actually carry the bow all day.
When I was working the streets and highways, as a paramedic, I wore latex under a thin pair of leather gloves. When Nytril came out, I bought and keep boxes of them in the RV, my hunting pack, my right cargo pocket on my hunting pants, at the bench, and in the car and truck.
I buy my leather gloves at the gun show, from a lady who custom makes them for ten bucks a pair (!). Perfect fit. My hands are supposed to be 11's according to the label on sterile gloves, but even that is a little snug.
for cold weather, I have a pair of loose heavy snowmobile gauntlets, that I can slip on with a pair of 100% wool fingerless gloves for cold endurance. These are in the survival bag. I have some larger heavy leather gloves, and nylon gloves, with insulation, that I can pull on if I have to jump out of the truck in bad weather (I live in the mountains of eastern OR). I also have a pair of fleece gloves in each jacket I own. The cold weather bag has two jackets water proof, and insulated, as well as 2 wool hats, and two pair of heavy gloves, and two changes of heavy socks. That bag stays in the truck ALL year around.
I don't know if this helps, but I sure agree that a pair of gloves can make all the difference.
 
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