hammerklavier
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Crazy idea I just had: How about an AR with solid bass receivers? Is the metal too soft?
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Grmlin
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Seems a little fishy.
If it was a show piece novelty maybe but like has been said it would be heavier.
If it was a show piece novelty maybe but like has been said it would be heavier.
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No more pointless than that case hardened AR Turnbull makes, or at least did a proof of concept for. But an octagonal barrel on it and maybe a under barrel wood fore end and it might be a neat piece.
dragon813gt
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I hate the Henry's to begin w/. I would hate this type of AR even more. I don't think brass receivers look good. And then there is the weight issue. For some reason I can see a lot of people paying for this type of AR.
MachIVshooter
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No. 360 free machining brass has mechanical properties very similar to 2219 aluminum, which is about halfway between 6061 and 7075. But as M-cameron touched on, brass weighs 3.18 times as much as aluminum.
Steel receivers at least have a strength and hardness advantage to offset the 190% weight increase, albeit rather pointless, since 7075-T6 is more than strong enough. Wasn't enough to stop me from making one, of course......
But brass is also expensive, way more than 7075 aluminum. If someone gave me a piece of 360 big enough, I might do it just for kicks, but at 1.5" x 5" x 8", you're talking about a $150 chunk of metal.
JWH321
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Great. I can see the "I use Brasso on my AR" threads coming.
Speedo66
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Just do what Henry does on some of it's guns, make a phony "brass" receiver by throwing a thin stamped metal plate on it.
MachIVshooter
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Not gonna get the luster of actual brass.
You could if you plated it, though that is a complex and expensive process with aluminum.
Grunt
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I suppose you could do it but IMHO, it would be hideous! 
eh, i dont think it would look too bad.......get a brass upper and lower......a stainless barrel.....and some wood furniture......i think it would look pretty sharp, especially once the brass gets some patina on it.I suppose you could do it but IMHO, it would be hideous!
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Wouldn't be any worse than the pink ones I see for sale from time to time.
Titanium nitride coating? That'll make polished aluminum gold colored and it's extremely durable.
I've been toying with the idea of building a polished (mirror clear or TiN) A1 with custom, exhibition grade walnut furniture for decades. Never gotten around to it so far but I have a bunch of spare M16 lowers in the white so it'll definitely be an option in the future. That's industrial strength pimping, for sure...
I've been toying with the idea of building a polished (mirror clear or TiN) A1 with custom, exhibition grade walnut furniture for decades. Never gotten around to it so far but I have a bunch of spare M16 lowers in the white so it'll definitely be an option in the future. That's industrial strength pimping, for sure...
Speedo66
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Remember Saddam Hussein's gold plated AK? https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search...d+ak-47&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001
Or those tarted up gold plated M-1 "commemorative" versions I used to see for sale. Actually, most commemoratives. Not my cup of tea.
https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search...d+ak-47&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001Or those tarted up gold plated M-1 "commemorative" versions I used to see for sale. Actually, most commemoratives. Not my cup of tea.
MachIVshooter
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It's OK to have those over there? I know machine guns are nearly impossible to own legally there; does your government not consider the receiver a firearm like ours? What would constitute contraband?
Stateside, each one of those would be up to 10 years in club fed!
Sunray
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It'll be "Can I use Brasso on my AR?" snicker. Should really be gold plated like Sadam Hussein's AK.
Lowers used to be free-for-all until 2011 and in most other EU countries they still are. Now they're gun parts that have to be registered. Machine guns (and what would be DD:s in the US, all the way up to cannons) are readily available to registered collectors and there are more full auto guns per capita in Finland than there are in the US. A lot more. Collectors can buy, build and own anything they have on their stamped "collecting plan" and many collectors have lists several, even dozens of pages long, just to be able to have anything they want.
Mine's mainly M16/M4 even though I've sneaked in a number of classics, from various Tommy Gun variations to Uzis, light and heavy machine guns and so on.
MachIVshooter
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Interesting. The impression I got from reading the law is that, while technically legal to own, it was very, very difficult to be permitted for them.
That would be pretty tough to know. While there are about 175,000 transferable MGs here, we don't have any access to the figures for how many LE owned and SOT post samples there are. Lots, for sure. Most of the weapons at any MG shoot are post-86 samples that belong to FFL07 02 SOTs.
That would be pretty tough to know. While there are about 175,000 transferable MGs here, we don't have any access to the figures for how many LE owned and SOT post samples there are. Lots, for sure. Most of the weapons at any MG shoot are post-86 samples that belong to FFL07 02 SOTs.
The trick is how to get approved as a collector. Lots of red tape involved but it's very much possible, at least two of my friends have been approved during last five years. I got my approval in the 80's when it was very simple and easy. There are approximately 2000 full auto collectors in the country, average number of guns owned is between 30 and 80 but many collectors have far more guns than that. The largest private collection I've seen (literally, seen) has been 10,000+ guns, the vast majority of which are full auto. No-one knows the exact figure because most collectors are also approved to keep their own registration files, but back when ranges didn't restrict full auto it was pretty much impossible to visit one without seeing at least a few guys blasting away with machine guns.
Nowadays the biggest problem is to find a place where to shoot them. Fortunately I own some land so it's just a matter of keeping the neighbors happy. Inviting them over to shoot a few mags or belts works a charm...
USAF_Vet
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Gold anodized aluminum receivers and walnut furniture. Keep the generally low weight of the aluminum, get the gold/ brass color via anodizing, slap on an A2 style walnut stock, wooden hand guard and pistol grip... deep polished blue on the barrel, stainless polished bolt... that'd be a nice looking show piece, if nothing else.
Paddy
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^^ was thinking the same thing!
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