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Thermactor said:
You beat me to it. I was just about to say that I should try this with my LaserLyte.
Good idea for practicing a more realistic shooting scenario
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You beat me to it. I was just about to say that I should try this with my LaserLyte.
Posted by Baron66:
Well, you answered one question--it appears that it is not common property, and that it it belongs to a neighbor.
That means that he can open carry, but you cannot, unless you are employed by him. But open carry doesn't seem to be the issue.
Unless there are restrictions that you have not mentioned, you would be able to hunt, shoot, and train on someone else's property, provided that you have the owner's permission.
Of course, you must do that safely and responsibly. Shooting or training without an adequate backstop is a very poor idea.
Those factors, and appearances, matter. If you handle your gun in a matter that appears threatening to someone, you can be charged with a felony--with a severe mandatory penalty--unless you are engaged in lawful self defense. But surely you know that already.
If you handle it in a reckless manner, or in a manner that appears careless, you can be charged with a misdemeanor.
And it matters not one whit whether it is loaded or not, in Florida. But surely you know that already.
Some Florida attorneys advise clients to plead guilty to the misdemeanor charge to mitigate the serious risk of conviction for a felony.
Surely your neighbor would not report you, but are you certain that no one else would?
Or perceive you as an immediate threat and shoot you?
And by the way, it would matter not at all that the person may be trespassing.
We cannot visualize the property. You described it as a "walking/bicycle trail". Is it a safe and proper place to shoot and hunt, or not? Who rides on it?
What you described (drawing and "advancing on trees" on a "walking/bicycle trail") just doesn't sound like responsible behavior. But maybe we do not have a good picture.
It is difficult to discern where your lack of understanding stops and your snark begins.
Well, you answered one question--it appears that it is not common property, and that it it belongs to a neighbor.
That means that he can open carry, but you cannot, unless you are employed by him. But open carry doesn't seem to be the issue.
Unless there are restrictions that you have not mentioned, you would be able to hunt, shoot, and train on someone else's property, provided that you have the owner's permission.
Of course, you must do that safely and responsibly. Shooting or training without an adequate backstop is a very poor idea.
Those factors, and appearances, matter. If you handle your gun in a matter that appears threatening to someone, you can be charged with a felony--with a severe mandatory penalty--unless you are engaged in lawful self defense. But surely you know that already.
If you handle it in a reckless manner, or in a manner that appears careless, you can be charged with a misdemeanor.
And it matters not one whit whether it is loaded or not, in Florida. But surely you know that already.
Some Florida attorneys advise clients to plead guilty to the misdemeanor charge to mitigate the serious risk of conviction for a felony.
Surely your neighbor would not report you, but are you certain that no one else would?
Or perceive you as an immediate threat and shoot you?
And by the way, it would matter not at all that the person may be trespassing.
We cannot visualize the property. You described it as a "walking/bicycle trail". Is it a safe and proper place to shoot and hunt, or not? Who rides on it?
What you described (drawing and "advancing on trees" on a "walking/bicycle trail") just doesn't sound like responsible behavior. But maybe we do not have a good picture.
Good. Maybe someday when (if) you (and your neighbor) grow up, you'll learn something about being safe with guns.Baron66 said:
George, I like where your heads at!
I have a SIRT laser training gizmo, and I set up one of the silhouette targets from an Appleseed shoot on one wall, with a doorframe mounted pull-up bar from wallmart. I like pull ups and burpees over running for this sort of thing because I think that the strength is going to be more of a benefit in a fight, and I think that if you do have to fight someone off and draw, your arms are going to be more tired than if you are fighting. BUT, I have a pull up bar in my apartment, and not a treadmill, so I am kind of biased.
If you really want to have some fun, I'd recomend selecting a workout from the crossfit site or something like Stew Smith Fitness, and doing the dry fire in between the sets of push-ups and sit-ups.
I have a SIRT laser training gizmo, and I set up one of the silhouette targets from an Appleseed shoot on one wall, with a doorframe mounted pull-up bar from wallmart. I like pull ups and burpees over running for this sort of thing because I think that the strength is going to be more of a benefit in a fight, and I think that if you do have to fight someone off and draw, your arms are going to be more tired than if you are fighting. BUT, I have a pull up bar in my apartment, and not a treadmill, so I am kind of biased.
If you really want to have some fun, I'd recomend selecting a workout from the crossfit site or something like Stew Smith Fitness, and doing the dry fire in between the sets of push-ups and sit-ups.
There is a big difference between undertaking these sorts of exercises on random property, and doing so in areas set up and managed for the purpose. And when you use the latter, you can use live ammunition and therefore know whether or not you can actually hit your targets.
One of the great benefits of classes at a place like Gunsite.
Here are links to some videos of live fire outdoor simulator exercises we do at Gunsite:
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DoSJsx5D0A
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1QWV8vpjjg
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bn4z_3KMK0
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x_Qpi5QeVs
And indoors:
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKN0naWFGjo
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8klAut0HqI
One of the great benefits of classes at a place like Gunsite.
Here are links to some videos of live fire outdoor simulator exercises we do at Gunsite:
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DoSJsx5D0A
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1QWV8vpjjg
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bn4z_3KMK0
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x_Qpi5QeVs
And indoors:
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKN0naWFGjo
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8klAut0HqI
Moving toward a violent criminal actor is generally something that only law enforcement should do. Of course, if it should become necessary to move forward or around to defend a loved one, there may well be a basis for justification....
But in general, if one were to think about how to prioritize training, one would be better served to allocate more effort to practicing drawing while moving to the side, or back and around a barrier of some kind, rather to than drawing and aiming while advancing on the most threatening looking trees.
Should one happen to revert to that kind of training in a use of force incident, eyewitness testimony and/or video evidence could prove extremely damaging to a defense of justification.
But in general, if one were to think about how to prioritize training, one would be better served to allocate more effort to practicing drawing while moving to the side, or back and around a barrier of some kind, rather to than drawing and aiming while advancing on the most threatening looking trees.
Should one happen to revert to that kind of training in a use of force incident, eyewitness testimony and/or video evidence could prove extremely damaging to a defense of justification.
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