Good result with cold bluing?

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Is this possible?

I have an old Browning 22 that has had some rust and the bluing is not the best.

Is it possible to re-blue this gun at home with good results? The gun is not a high value item - maybe worth $150.

I was thinking of removing 100% the old bluing with a wire wheel
 
Well, if you remove the old bluing with a wire wheel, the gun will have a value of near zero.

As to cold blue, I know some folks will chime in that they have used some magic method or super cold blue and bluing they put on in 1902 is still perfect. Maybe. But I have never seen any cold blue that would last if the gun is handled or used at all. Sometimes if the steel is heated by boiling, cold blue can be used like rust blue, but it is still not strong enough to do the job properly and still will not last.

Remove active rust with a good penetrant (I like G96 Gun Treatment) or with the use of a brass wool (pot scrubber) and oil. Touch up bare spots with cold blue, but I wouldn't go any further.

Jim
 
I have a really well maintained S&W 10-5 except it had a lot blueing wear from the years of being carried in the leather holster. My first attempt to reblue was with a Casey's kit which didn't come out looking very consistent. I took some more time to steel wool it back to plain steel and reblued it again with the same stuff as before. This time I tried something different. I heated the firearm up in the oven to 225 degrees and using a glass pyrex dish I heated the blue up to about the same temparature, well slightly more. I polished the metal to a super high gloss finish and rinsed the entire firearm in denatured alcohol to ensure it was 100% free of residue. I submerged the fire arm in the blue for about 12 hrs. or so, and then let it cool while hanging from a wire. I didn't touch it with my hands for a full day. I coated it with an even but generous film of plain Hoppes gun oil and propped it from the trigger guard on my wooden table top for a about a week. Now, almost 4 yrs. later and several hundred hand loads later, it still looks like a professional bluing job. I don't use a leather holster any more though.
I was so pleased with the results, I've reblued my 25 yr. old Super Black Hawk.
I also did my old 700 ADL, but since I didn't have the means to submerge it, as I did with the revolver's, I heated it and the solution to about 200 degree's and quickly poured the solution over the entire surface several times, making sure I didn't miss any spots. Both of those came out looking really, really nice.
I think the most important elements of the process is making sure the old finish is completely removed, polishing the metal to a super high luster, and making sure the surface is completely free of any residue, acetone or denatured alcohol seems to work well. Don't use any type of solvent.
My buddy sent his expensive collector Citori to Browning which cost him a small fortune. After he saw my 3 little projects he had me blue an old S&W 29 that turned out flawless.
Most expensive blue jobs are done in a tank using heat, which is where I got the idea to try and incorporate that method as well as I could, without the professional sized tank and heating elements. And since the first firearm I tried it on was an inexpensive wheel gun, I figured the risk was minimal.
Use a 00 steel wool to remove the old blue and rust, and then a very fine steel and metal polishing compound to get the luster. This is the time consuming part of getting it right, but it is worth the time is you want it to look right. Using a wire wheel is going to likely put deep scratches in the finish. For the hard to get to spots use a piece of super strong nylon string wraped with the steel wool.
 
Rust blueing will leave a long lasting finish. Brownells sells the chemical to use, if you follow directions as well as prep the metal properly you will be pleased with the results. It is a labor intensive process but well worth the effort when you finish and have a Beautiful finished product. I recently completly re-finished a yugo mauser with rust blue and I could not be happier with the results. feel free to pm with any questions and good luck with what ever process you choose.
 
I JUST FINISHED A BROWNING NOMAD

only put 3 coats on it before it started not wanting any more.
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AFTER

i had a new barrel but still did the old one , pic has some rust color but it is the flash it came out good but needs some bad places sanded down to smooth it out.

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i stripped it with a wire wheel it was bad,
then i degrease it
put blue on
rinse cold water
polish with 0000 steel wool
rinse hot water
dry
re apply more blue till it is how you want it
repeat steps above
soak it in rem oil spray for 24 hr
 
No matter how great looking a job you can do with cold blue (and it is possible) it will not wear very well or very long. It's only real use is for touch ups and small parts.
 
Buy a bottle of Pilkington's Classic American Rust Blue from Midway or Brownell's. For all the work you'll do on on cold blue, you won't be to far away from doing a good slow rust blue job. It's slow, but the results are great, and will last longer than any cold blue.
 
cold bluing never looks good, and never works well, parkerizing, however is very easy, very effective, and goes well for most first timers.
 
NEVER SAY NEVER


i like the outcome as do others that have seen it in hand.

think ill ck into the parkerizing that would be great on some old military stuff and touch up's
 
I used the birchwood casey cold blue on and action screw head and a bolt handle knob. After several treatments, it looks pretty good, but it wears off very quickly and looks wrong in the sunlight. I'm going to have to find somebody with a hot blue tank.

If you need to do the whole gun I'd look at something else instead of cold blue. Maybe dura coat?
 
dura coat?

just picked up a flyer on this at the gun show ,looked pretty good from what the display was.
the 2 long gun kit was around $35 and i was told you can send it to them and they will do it for you if you didn't want to , they would also take the gun apart and blast everything, didn't get a price for all that . might try a kit and see how it does.
 
Have used Oxpho Blue from Brownells many times as a touch up blue with good sucess, have yet to see a cold blue that gives satisfactory results for any length of time.

But then YMMV and DAYW
 
How well your blueing whether hot or cold comes out depends most on your prep work. Surfaces need to be chemically clean of old blue, no finger prints or oil, rust and pits removed unless they're too deep. Pay special attention to any grooves. Keep the edges as sharp as you can. Take your time and use minimal abrasive. Remove scratches with fine abrasives like flitz.

One trick to using cold blue is to heat the metal before application. Not frying pan hot but nice and warm works to give that hot blue finish. I use a plumbers torch.

There was an article in the American Rifeman years ago that you may be able to get from the NRA on how to get the best results using cold blue. With some guns like double barrels shotguns your only option is cold blue as hot blueing will melt the solder holding the barrel together.
 
I used about every cold blue out there at one time or another.

Looks OK for touch ups, carry it and in a couple of weeks its gone. So why bother if your going to use it.

I got burned buying a used gun that was touched up with it. Got a Walther off of Gun Broker that was supposed to be pristine as far as finish. Pics were great. When the gun came in it had been touched up with cold blue and was probably only about a 95%. I wanted it for a carry gun, so it really did not matter that much. Just something to be cautious of if they are asking a premium price. I did get mine at a bargain.
 
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