Funderb
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Wait,
with that ruger, wouldn't the paint just scrape off the action with the first few shots?
with that ruger, wouldn't the paint just scrape off the action with the first few shots?
Got me a new .22lr - pics (no laughing please - it isn't finished)
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toivo
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My mistake. For some reason I though it looked like a Varmint barrel, especially in the middle picture.
hexidismal
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I can't imagine why you'd think anyone would laugh. They are nice guns, and not exactly cheap for a .22lr either.
wuchak
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Forget the 11mm rings. Erik Brooks has 11mm to Weaver adapters so you can use any rings you like. He also has a fantastic trigger kit, especially for the price. He has a wealth of useful CZ info and accessories at http://cz452.com/
My CZ 452 Trainer likes Wolf Match Target but it does just fine with Remington Golden Bullet bulk pack.
My CZ 452 Trainer likes Wolf Match Target but it does just fine with Remington Golden Bullet bulk pack.
cracked butt
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What's there to laugh about? That's a mighty fine .22 you have.
Danny Creasy
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Lightsped, thanks so much for posting the photo of the underside of the rifle.
When a CZ 452 has the four screw set up as yours does it indicates that it actually employs a single action screw. Here are the four screws' functions (from the muzzle):
1. this screw helps secure the barreled action via a under barrel lug that is threaded for this forearm screw (little hard to distinguish in Lightsped's photo from above - just a glint of it showing)
2. the next one secures the floor plate to the stock
3. this does the most work, it secures the barreled action to the stock by screwing into the action
4. this also helps secure the floor plate/trigger guard to the stock.
This single action screw and one barrel screw design is commonly employed by the Silhouette, the FS, the Special, the Lux, and the Varmint models.
The CZ American uses three screws consisting of two stock to action screws and one floor plate to stock screw. Thus the CZ American is intended to have a free floating barrel (some end up touching due to mass production flaws and shipping warpage). The American is probably the most inherently accurate of the breed due to this feature. But, this is not always the case.
CZ rimfire fans often obsess over methods of floating the barrel lugged designs. But, I don't. The CZ engineers and assemblers know what they are doing and any of their rimfires will shoot very well. But that being said, I think the Americans (even with their skinny barrels) are the most accurate of the lot if you have one that is truly free floated from the factory or have performed a nice clean up job yourself.
Please note these exceptions:
The 452 FS magnum rimfires and most if not all, of the magnum chambered 452 Varmint models have the two action screws.
The newer 453 (upgraded with a single set trigger design) models of the American and Varmint (both LR and magnum models) employ the two screw action.
The humble little CZ 513 Basic uses a variation the same 452 action but employs only one action screw and two floor plate screws. But, don't sell these short either as I have one that groups with the best of them.
When a CZ 452 has the four screw set up as yours does it indicates that it actually employs a single action screw. Here are the four screws' functions (from the muzzle):
1. this screw helps secure the barreled action via a under barrel lug that is threaded for this forearm screw (little hard to distinguish in Lightsped's photo from above - just a glint of it showing)
2. the next one secures the floor plate to the stock
3. this does the most work, it secures the barreled action to the stock by screwing into the action
4. this also helps secure the floor plate/trigger guard to the stock.
This single action screw and one barrel screw design is commonly employed by the Silhouette, the FS, the Special, the Lux, and the Varmint models.
The CZ American uses three screws consisting of two stock to action screws and one floor plate to stock screw. Thus the CZ American is intended to have a free floating barrel (some end up touching due to mass production flaws and shipping warpage). The American is probably the most inherently accurate of the breed due to this feature. But, this is not always the case.
CZ rimfire fans often obsess over methods of floating the barrel lugged designs. But, I don't. The CZ engineers and assemblers know what they are doing and any of their rimfires will shoot very well. But that being said, I think the Americans (even with their skinny barrels) are the most accurate of the lot if you have one that is truly free floated from the factory or have performed a nice clean up job yourself.
Please note these exceptions:
The 452 FS magnum rimfires and most if not all, of the magnum chambered 452 Varmint models have the two action screws.
The newer 453 (upgraded with a single set trigger design) models of the American and Varmint (both LR and magnum models) employ the two screw action.
The humble little CZ 513 Basic uses a variation the same 452 action but employs only one action screw and two floor plate screws. But, don't sell these short either as I have one that groups with the best of them.
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FUNDERB...
i have more than 3 boxes of the 550 federal value packs through it, and thats before i took this pic. the clearance is just enough that it wont scrape it off. it really shoots good 20 shoot groups with the factory barrel and crappy stock. about 1.5 inches to 2 inches at around 75-85 yards. and thats just blasting away. i really want to see what it will do with one of those barrel/stock packs, i just have to wait until i get some more moola to play wih. had to sing up for unemloyment yesterday....
i have more than 3 boxes of the 550 federal value packs through it, and thats before i took this pic. the clearance is just enough that it wont scrape it off. it really shoots good 20 shoot groups with the factory barrel and crappy stock. about 1.5 inches to 2 inches at around 75-85 yards. and thats just blasting away. i really want to see what it will do with one of those barrel/stock packs, i just have to wait until i get some more moola to play wih. had to sing up for unemloyment yesterday....
Alton
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Shefffieldshootr, Thanks for all the CZ Info. Im new to CZ rifles, I got a 452 Amer .22 Lr 4 mouths ago and love shooting it.Now Im hooked on them and try to read all I can about them.I find alot of good Info a Rimfire central.com, They have a thread just for CZ. http://rimfirecentral.com/forums/
Lightsped, You asked about ammo well I shoot the CHEAP STUFF and It works fine if your just shooting for fun.
If you need any thing for your CZ try Whittaaker Guns they do not show much on there web site but if you call they have alot of stuff for CZ. http://www.whittakerguns.com/
Lightsped, You asked about ammo well I shoot the CHEAP STUFF and It works fine if your just shooting for fun.
If you need any thing for your CZ try Whittaaker Guns they do not show much on there web site but if you call they have alot of stuff for CZ. http://www.whittakerguns.com/
Funderb
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Ah, good luck with the unemployment. Good thing you're shooting .22lr
and that won't break what little bank you can get.
Whatever paint it is, I want some, if it can stick to the slide metal, and resist crackling from solvents after getting hot too.
and that won't break what little bank you can get.
Whatever paint it is, I want some, if it can stick to the slide metal, and resist crackling from solvents after getting hot too.
Lightsped
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The write up on the screws is interesting. I am not quite sure I understand it completely, as I am somewhat new to rifles....
Will I ever need to field strip my CZ more than just removing the bolt? If so, how often? It appears as if I can get to most everything once the bolt is removed.
Will I ever need to field strip my CZ more than just removing the bolt? If so, how often? It appears as if I can get to most everything once the bolt is removed.
Danny Creasy
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I honestly think that as long as you don't get the rifle wet or use it in very dusty or dirty enviroments that you will be fine just cleaning the bolt and the receiver's bolt channel and of course the bore.
You should occasionally put a drop of quality gun oil or TetraGrease on the sear where it emeges through the receiver at the rear of the bolt channel and a drop of the same on the two locking lugs (root of the bolt handle and another on the bolt).
It is a little tricky to take the CZ 452 bolt apart. But, the directions are in the owner's manual and if you follow them carefully you can become quite proficient at it. My reloading bench top is a four inch thick wooden butcher block. It has a nice sharp and very strong corner. This corner is perfect for depressing the rear of the firing pin during this process. Serves as another pair of hands almost.
You should occasionally put a drop of quality gun oil or TetraGrease on the sear where it emeges through the receiver at the rear of the bolt channel and a drop of the same on the two locking lugs (root of the bolt handle and another on the bolt).
It is a little tricky to take the CZ 452 bolt apart. But, the directions are in the owner's manual and if you follow them carefully you can become quite proficient at it. My reloading bench top is a four inch thick wooden butcher block. It has a nice sharp and very strong corner. This corner is perfect for depressing the rear of the firing pin during this process. Serves as another pair of hands almost
.Dollar An Hour
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Looks just like my CZ 452 Style, but it's black instead of silver. Congrats!
Eightball
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I fail to see how a bullish barrelled CZ would get laughter aimed at it. Get that trigger tuned, and you have a good rifle in the making.
Slugless
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Laugh or drool?
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=260502
Ammo info enclosed. Mine likes anything very expensive, esp. Eley, and mini-mags.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=260502
Ammo info enclosed. Mine likes anything very expensive, esp. Eley, and mini-mags.
Quoheleth
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There was a question about dry-firing.
No.
Do not dry-fire a .22 (or .17) rimfire. The firing pin will "ding" up the chamber mouth (where the shell enters the chamber). It ain't good for neither firing pin or mouth!
Get a package of snap caps. COuple bucks...then snap away.
Q
No.
Do not dry-fire a .22 (or .17) rimfire. The firing pin will "ding" up the chamber mouth (where the shell enters the chamber). It ain't good for neither firing pin or mouth!
Get a package of snap caps. COuple bucks...then snap away.
Q
Slugless
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Here's a good thread on dry firing a CZ.
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204361&highlight=dry+fire
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204361&highlight=dry+fire
stubbicatt
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I want one of those in the full stock manlicher variety. Neat rifle. I'm officially jealous.
Have fun with your new acquisition.
Have fun with your new acquisition.
Please read your manuals.
From CZ's 452 manual:
http://www.cz-usa.com/data/downloads/support_manuals/CZ_452.pdf
There are exceptions to the general rule of not dry firing rimfires. Besides the CZs, the Ruger guns are OK to dry fire, the Marlin bolt rimfires allow the firing pin to hit the barrel but the face of the firing pin is stepped and it hits the barrel away from the chamber edge, and others.
If you do not wish to dry fire bolt guns but would like to decock the striker, just pull the trigger and keep it depressed while you close the bolt.
I shoot Remington Target in my CZ-452 Trainer model. With that ammo, I can score around 270 of 300 in NRA Light Rifle Competition. I have shot as high as 278 with that rifle. That's with crummy optics too- I use a $29 3-9x340 from Dicks with see under rings (they facilitate the longer bolt handle, and allow me to plink with iron sights)>
Lightsped
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Here are some new pics of my new CZ452 since the items I ordered arrived today. I just now got them installed... I am anxious to try this rifle out....
Bill2e
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That is really sharp, I want one.
CajunBass
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I don't see a thing to even giggle at. Very nice rifle.
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