Got my new press Monday, What's wrong?

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I also like to use the spray lube, but since he has purchased an old fashioned lube pad and started to use it, I think it would be a good idea if he learned how to use the lube pad and get to the point where he could size cases without getting cases stuck and without getting lube dents. At that point, I think he should again try his spray lube, and I think his experience with the lube pad will help him learn how to use the lube spray properly. It will also allow him to use a lube pad with confidence if the time comes when he has no lube spray available for a while. As I said earlier, a lube pad is cheaper than spray lube.
I used both today, 150 with the lube pad and 150 with the one shot. Both work equally well. The diffrence with the one-shot is I waited until it dried this time. Once I figured out I was lubing them wrong everything went very smoothly. Using the one shot spray worked like most everyone said. I did notice the press tends to complain long before the case goes all the way into the press if I missed a spot.

When using spray lube, I also put my cases in a plastic block and spray from both sides. Before spraying, however, I use a bore brush with some pad lube on it to clean the inside of the case necks and put a little lube on the inside of the necks. I have always found this to be very effective when sizing bottleneck cases. Like the other folks, I also let the lube dry a few minutes before sizing.
I used my work bench and sprayed all of them. It is a little hard standing 150 up without having them fall down. I haven't tried lubing the inside yet. Right now I'm trimming all of them to 2.0155. Before anyone comments. the Hornady die is set to crimp at the same location each time as long as the cases are trimmed the same after getting it set up. I also did a "dummy" round and set my die up to that.

When it comes to removing lube after sizing, I do something most folks do not care to do. I use gasoline to wash the lube off empty sized cases and dry them in a towel. If using the progressive press, I simply take the finished round and wash it in gasoline before drying on a towel. I then use a vibratory cleaner to shine the cases of the finished rounds. For those who are worried, I use less than a quart of gas at a time, and when finished, I put the gas back in a sealed can for future use. It's not expensive and it's no more dangerous than working with gun powder.
I used Dawn dishwashing liquid, (something I learned when I wanted to strip all the wax off my bike.) Works too. I also used a hair dryer to dry the cases. I just stood them primer end up in my block, (home made, 100 cases in each), what didn't evaporate drained down the hole in the block.

I would also suggest you learn how to prime cases properly with your L&L single stage press. Once you have learned to do that with the press, you may want to try priming cases with a hand primer instead of the single stage press. I primed on my RockChucker for many years before I tried a Lee Auto Prime hand tool. Once I tried it, I have used one ever since for my single stage reloading. As I said before, with my progressive press, I find the priming function to work very well for me.
The press I got came with a hand primer tool. What I saw on the instructions indicated I had to buy a primer tube and attach it to the press. It apparently decaps and primes at the same time. I think I'm sticking with the handheld tool for now. Once I get this big batch of .308's (512) done it won't be so bad. My next bunch is going to be the Garand rounds I've been saving for a year, but that's only 200. :D
 
ar10,

I would bet if you polled all the guys who have stuck a case in their die, you would find 9 out of 10 were using One Shot. What does that tell you? Get yourself some Imperial Sizing Die Wax and never look back.

Don

The two best lubes I've ever used--and will ONLY use--are the Lee resizing lube and the Imperial Sizing Die Wax. The nod goes to Imperial, however.

I like handlubing my long gun rounds because that way, I know that the round is completely lubed, and I can also feel any burrs or imperfections while applying the lube. Also gives me a chance to do a final inspection on the brass.

I tried the one-shot off and on for probably ten years before giving up on it once and for all.

Jeff
 
You did remove the antii-rust stuff that all the LnL presses are bathed in before you started reloading, right? I called Hornady and the tech said to use WD40 to clean the inside of my new dies, before using them. I cleaned the crap out of them and have had zero problems.

I am a new LnL owner and use one-shot to load .380 Auto, .40SW, 9mm, 44 mag, 45 ACP and 45/70 Gov't - all straight walled cases. I have never had a case to stick.

But I intend to load 30-30 and 30.06 (bottle-necks), so I don't know what problems I'll run into then. Hopefully, none.

Hack
 
David Wile said:
I do something most folks do not care to do. I use gasoline to wash the lube off empty sized cases and dry them in a towel. If using the progressive press, I simply take the finished round and wash it in gasoline before drying on a towel.

You ever wonder why the smell of gasoline doesn't come off your hands after you wash them? It's because it soaks through your skin. I'd say it is more dangerous than gun powder in that regard. I think Simple Green would be a bit safer to use. I just wipe them off with a clean rag myself.
 
FWIW the only cases I've ever stuck were .308 and that was using One-Shot as a case lube. One-Shot worked perfectly for thousands of .223. I'm using a tube of Hornady lube now because I didn't know about imperial . . .but it's never stuck a .308 case.

Have a good one,
Dave
 
You did remove the antii-rust stuff that all the LnL presses are bathed in before you started reloading, right? I called Hornady and the tech said to use WD40 to clean the inside of my new dies, before using them. I cleaned the crap out of them and have had zero problems.

I am a new LnL owner and use one-shot to load .380 Auto, .40SW, 9mm, 44 mag, 45 ACP and 45/70 Gov't - all straight walled cases. I have never had a case to stick.

But I intend to load 30-30 and 30.06 (bottle-necks), so I don't know what problems I'll run into then. Hopefully, none.

Hack


Nope. Screwed that up too. I didn't look close enough when I got the die set. The instructions allen wrench, and spare clip and pin were behind the foam pad on the lid. I did clean the press tho. :uhoh: When I saw them, (after about 60 cases) I stopped and cleaned both dies. (wish they had an icon for "dumb ass").
 
There are a lot of good ideas on how to lube. I wish I would have seen something like this when I started. I found out the hard way which way works best by experimenting over time. I have used one shot and imperial and RCBS spray and have gone to the RCBS lube. I hate getting the lube all over the place and my cookie sheet methode makes a mess if media gets on the sheet. What I ended up with is the zip lock bag method. I put a handful in the bag, spray two times, put another handful in and repeat three times. then close the bag and mix it up for a few minutes. Open bag and let sit for a few more. Very clean and no mess. I have not had a single stuck one with 223, 308(MG fired brass), 243. Just an idea. Good luck!
 
I am a new LnL owner and use one-shot to load .380 Auto, .40SW, 9mm, 44 mag, 45 ACP and 45/70 Gov't - all straight walled cases. I have never had a case to stick.

If you're using carbide dies, and I'd suspect that the Hornady setup you bought includes them, you don't need to lube your straight-wall cases.

Jeff
 
I would bet if you polled all the guys who have stuck a case in their die, you would find 9 out of 10 were using One Shot. What does that tell you? Get yourself some Imperial Sizing Die Wax and never look back.

Tells me that maybe they should read the directions.

I use the one shot on pistol and 223 brass. The pistol rounds run a little smoother in the progressive.

I use Imperial wax on large cal. Bottle neck cases.

But I have used the one shot on the large cals. also.

First time almost stuck one. See almost cause it just was taking to much force and I backed off. Then after reading the directions again behold there lies my problems.

I can say this much I have never dented a case with one shot.
 
Hey folks,

Jenrob has the right idea about reading the directions. I have used One Shot as well as other spray lubes, and I think they are great. My only complaint is the expense of spray lubes compared to pad lubes. Like Jenrob, I don't think I ever had a lube dent with a spray lube.

Best wishes,
Dave Wile
 
Unless I missed it, what type of dies are you using? I'm not going to assume that because you have a LnL that your using Hornady dies, BUT if you are I just went through the same drama as you. I have been through 3 different sets of Hornady CGND sizer dies in .223 Rem, thinking that each previous die was defective, right? No dice. When extracting the case from the die, it sounds more like pulling a nail from an old piece of wood. I tried One Shot, I tried Unique, I even tried synthetic motor oil, and no brand of lube in any quantity, sparing or gooping, would stop the popping of the press handle or that horrid screech. The poor Technician from Hornady that I got on the phone was helpful, but after running through the litany of standard; "Are you doing this?" questions, I apparently had all the bases covered and he could only suggest that I send the die back to re-polish the interior. Not something you would expect from a brand new die from Hornady, let alone 3 of them. I purchased a set of RCBS FL dies and now, with a TINY bit of Unique, the cases slip in and out so easily, I felt like I was using a .300 Win Mag die to size .223’s.

I looked at the sizer dies (RCBS and Hornady) interior with a magnifying glass and either the RCBS is just a superior product or Hornady had a LARGE manufacturing boo boo. The RCBS was visibly smoother and what a difference it made. Hope this helps in some small way…
 
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i use a cookie sheet with waxed paper, for easier cleanup. i spray with one shot and shake the pan a bit and spray again. i then do something else for a few minutes to allow the one shot to dry.

i spray all bottleneck cases and the larger pistol cases like .44 mag. and .45 acp. i use carbide dies, but it is soooo much easier to size when the larger cases are lubed. i do not lube 9mm , .40 s&w, .38 spl, .357 mag. saying that, i will spray nickle plated stuff if i have a bunch of 'em. just being lazy, makes it easier. i have yet to have a stuck case using one shot.
 
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