Gun buys up95% - Ammo buys up 139%

[.308 Norma]

and we gun owners do it to ourselves every time this political scenario arises.

Yep, and we’ve been doing it since long before there were people on the internet telling us we should “stock up.” Heck, for that matter it was long before anyone ever heard of something called "the internet."
I’ve said it before - I remember my dad “stocking up” on 308 Winchester ammo in the few years between the JFK assignation and the RFK assignation. I still have a few boxes of that ammo, and I’m 72. I will likely have great-grandkids of my own pretty soon - maybe they’ll be able to use some old Remington CoreLokt 308 Winchester ammunition.

 

[.455_Hunter]

So you are against capitalism and making a profit? Seems that's what the young kids are against as well. If no one buys at the higher price, the seller - if he truly wishes to sell them - will lower his price until a willing buyer wants it badly enough. As for folks stocking up, we have seen folks buying up enough to last them, their kids and grandkids throughout all their lives - that makes them a bigger part of the problem - and we gun owners do it to ourselves every time this political scenario arises.

Yes- I am against a person positioning themselves to buy mass quantities of a national shortage item then trying to sell it at obscene mark-up just because they have the free time park their butt at sporting goods counter when they open every morning and the father of a family doesn't have such a luxury. The key word here is "obscene", takes it from "Good Capitalism" to "Mini-Robber Baron" status.

A person buying an extra case or two of .22LR or 9mm for their young Grandson to shoot in 20 years is perfectly fine by me.

I guess everybody's perspective is different.

[Edited to make response generic and not seem directed at George P personally.]

 

[George P]

Yes- I am against a person positioning themselves to buy mass quantities of a national shortage item then trying to sell it at obscene mark-up just because they have the free time park their butt at sporting goods counter when they open every morning and the father of a family doesn't have such a luxury. The key word here is "obscene", takes it from "Good Capitalism" to "Mini-Robber Baron" status.

A person buying an extra case or two of .22LR or 9mm for their young Grandson to shoot in 20 years is perfectly fine by me.

I guess everybody's perspective is different.

[Edited to make response generic and not seem directed at George P personally.]

I don't take it personally, and neither should you; my comment was directed at the attitude not the orator.....
That said, if you saw the markup on tech things, internet items (which most of us now consider necessary) you'd cringe. I should have bought more 9mm then I did when I got a text alert, but instead I also loaded up on some .22lr and Win SPP. But then I have ALWAYS bought in bulk because it was the way to spread the hazmat and shipping costs out, so I buy 8# jugs of powder, primers by the sleeve of 5,000, .22lr by the case of whatever K they come in................

AFAIAC, there is no such thing as gouging, even during emergencies - we have discussed this ad nauseum and I have posted a few you tubes by economic professors who show how things work in that regard.
Again, if I buy low and sell high, I make a profit. If no one buys, I need to lower my price to what the market will bear - which is why you see sales at retail stores and then clearance/closeouts at the end of the season.

 

[.455_Hunter]

I don't take it personally, and neither should you; my comment was directed at the attitude not the orator.....
That said, if you saw the markup on tech things, internet items (which most of us now consider necessary) you'd cringe. I should have bought more 9mm then I did when I got a text alert, but instead I also loaded up on some .22lr and Win SPP. But then I have ALWAYS bought in bulk because it was the way to spread the hazmat and shipping costs out, so I buy 8# jugs of powder, primers by the sleeve of 5,000, .22lr by the case of whatever K they come in................

AFAIAC, there is no such thing as gouging, even during emergencies - we have discussed this ad nauseum and I have posted a few you tubes by economic professors who show how things work in that regard.
Again, if I buy low and sell high, I make a profit. If no one buys, I need to lower my price to what the market will bear - which is why you see sales at retail stores and then clearance/closeouts at the end of the season.

Not taking it personal. My original response had a lot of "you" instead of "they".

I know that there is high retail mark-up items, but most of the time the commodity in question is not on national shortage. My specific reference is somebody who parks themselves at 7:00 (or whenever) every morning to collect the overnight retail stockage and the throws something like 4X multiplier on the price (making a $25 brick of .22 now $100) and then tries to coerce desperate buyers, whether at guns shows, local trade media, or flea markets. The most egregous have even tried re-selling product in the parking lots of the stores they purchased it from- stopping only when ordered off the property.

I have no issue with some enterprising person after buying a load of generators in Minnesota and rolling down to Florida to sell after a hurricane, even with adding a hefty mark-up to cover costs and their time. They aren't buying from the same sources as the people who want the merchandise locally.

 

[courtgreene]

Back to the original topic, my family in the Charlotte NC area now all wants guns. It’s not because they think ANTIFA is coming to their specific front porches, though. Remember, we cross paths with all sorts in a day, and everyone in these cities seems to be on edge. Not only are there political/social tensions running high, but the stress of a virus, the confusion and added stress of how to handle it (shelter in place, close, open, close again, open with rules that may or may not make sense to you) all comes into play to make the world somewhat of a powder keg waiting for a spark. To be clear I should say it makes it seem that way to those surrounded by it.
so, now all my city family wants guns, and of course they want me to shop for the best deals to help them out since they don’t have experience shopping for guns. I’ve had to disappoint them all, because prices have risen dramatically.

 

[jeff-10]

To think, 5 months ago Ruger finished laying off 25% of its workforce due to demand. A few months before that Colt stopped selling AR's due to demand. This is not sustainable in anyway. There are going to be a lot of LNIB polymer 9mm pistols and low to mid tier AR's for sale in the not too distant future. I know more than one person who previously panic bought firearms and then decided they wanted them out of their house when the perceived threat cleared.

 

[Justin9999]

There are going to be a lot of LNIB polymer 9mm pistols and low to mid tier AR's for sale in the not too distant future.

What are the odds someone picked up a strong .45 ACP on impulse, that I can buy & convert to .450 SMC?