Gun climate/culture in mountain states...

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I wouldn't call a city or state a "lost cause" on gun rights. The "wacko liberals" who go too far and have a phobia of firearms want you to give up and quit fighting them in court, town meetings, and at the voting booth. Don't give up. Look at the supreme court cases lately!

Odds are they are as tired or more tired than you, and the overall public sentiment is changing to a more "Fight back against crime, murderers, crazed mass shooters, terrorists, etc..." kind of attitude since 9/11 because fighting back works better. Some are sheeple and won't change ever (not a new problem), but some are waking up to reality and saying "Holy moly I need a pistol/rifle/shotgun now!". Help those who are waking up to some coffee and to a Gun store. Just ignore the "never change sheeple" and move on with your life.

Cultures do change in wierd and surprising ways. Here's some websites I would think help some Anti-Firearms types who are waking up.

www.corneredcat.com - For women and guns, especially newbies, by a woman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols
http://pinkpistols.org/
Bet this surprises and conflicts a lot of liberals.
 
Cities, states, and countries don't get culturally messed up overnight. Unfortunately, they don't get repaired overnight either.
 
I just moved to Wyoming a month ago and it seems gun friendly. I can get a concealed carry permit at age 18 here and I have open carried a few times and no one even glances at the gun.
 
IMO as a rule in Colorado, Front Range with the large population centers, not so good, Western Slope very pro gun.
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That is not true at all. I got my Douglas County CCW permit (southern Denver suburb) in 30 days. There are no more restrictions here on the Front Range than anywhere else in CO except for the city/county of Denver which has AWB rules, but you can still get a CCW there, and carry what you can in the rest of the state.

CO is still gun friendly, even with the influx of Californians.
 
I just moved to Wyoming a month ago and it seems gun friendly. I can get a concealed carry permit at age 18 here and I have open carried a few times and no one even glances at the gun.
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No special permits or anything else is required to carry concealed here anymore.
But, you have to be a resident, and you're not if you've only been here 1 month.
And you have to be 21.
 
There is no state requirement in Idaho for training. That is a county Sheriff thing. In Bannock county there is no training requirement. In other counties there is. Here is the law as it reads in the state of Idaho.

(13) When issuing a license pursuant to this section, the sheriff may require the applicant to demonstrate familiarity with a firearm and shall accept any of the following, provided the applicant may select whichever of the following applies:
(a) Completion of any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the department of fish and game or a similar agency of another state;
(b) Completion of any national rifle association firearms safety or training course or any national rifle association hunter education course;
(c) Completion of any firearms safety or training course or class available to the general public offered by a law enforcement agency, community college, college, university, or private or public institution or organization or firearms training school, utilizing instructors certified by the national rifle association or the Idaho state police;
(d) Completion of any law enforcement firearms safety or training course or class offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies, or any division or subdivision of a law enforcement agency or security enforcement agency;
(e) Presents evidence or equivalent experience with a firearm through participation in organized shooting competition or military service;
(f) Is licensed or has been licensed to carry a firearm in this state or a county or municipality, unless the license has been revoked for cause; or
(g) Completion of any firearms training or training or safety course or class conducted by a state certified or national rifle association certified firearms instructor.
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Where I live, documentation of military service is taken as evidence of training as it applies to CCW qualifications.

Further, outside of city limits, no permit is required. So, if you're out hunting and your coat covers your pistol, it's all good.

 
tarosean said:
Paul I was born and raised in NM. I moved to TX in 92-93 because no work. (Analyst in the O&G industry). Most of my family still lives there along with lifelong friends. Half my family is Mexican so your assumption is quite inaccurate.

Sure it's much better than TX for hunting and open land to do as you wish. However, CO, AZ, UT also have the same attributes.

BTW: sooner or later you will find out what I'm talking about with the DWI roadblocks.
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Tarosean, the O&G industry in NM is booming, the last time I tried to get a room in Hobbs I had to call three hotels. I said SOME have an anti-Hispanic bias, not you.

If NM is so terrible I wonder why so many Hollywood celebrities like Julia Roberts who could live anywhere choose to come to Santa Fe and Taos. Also Donald Rumsfeld and Ted Turner, the largest landowner in the state.
 
No special permits or anything else is required to carry concealed here anymore.
But, you have to be a resident, and you're not if you've only been here 1 month.
And you have to be 21.


I turned 18 here, and when I renewed my driver's license I said I wanted to be a resident when I was asked.

Everywhere I looked said there was no minimum age to OC.
 
tarosean said:
Paul I was born and raised in NM. I moved to TX in 92-93 because no work. (Analyst in the O&G industry). Most of my family still lives there along with lifelong friends. Half my family is Mexican so your assumption is quite inaccurate.

Sure it's much better than TX for hunting and open land to do as you wish. However, CO, AZ, UT also have the same attributes.

BTW: sooner or later you will find out what I'm talking about with the DWI roadblocks.
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I've lived in NM most of my life and all of my LE career and I can tell you that the DWI Roadblocks are not illegal. They are advertised as to date and location as per NM Supreme Court decision years ago (late 80s early 90s) and as long as you have not been drinking, they only delay you a minute of two. Considering the alcohol problem in NM, I would think most people would appreciate it.
 
I've lived in NM most of my life and all of my LE career and I can tell you that the DWI Roadblocks are not illegal. They are advertised as to date and location as per NM Supreme Court decision years ago (late 80s early 90s) and as long as you have not been drinking, they only delay you a minute of two. Considering the alcohol problem in NM, I would think most people would appreciate it.
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Pretty sure that its been proven that they are not all that effective.(Supreme Court on Michigan vs. Sitz). Yet, as Mr. Rehnquist so eloquently put it "its only a slight violation of our 4th Amendment rights".

With that said, Im not some jaded drunk with DWI/DUI's on my record. Here in TX they are illegal for the above reason. (seizure and probable cause under the 4th Amendment).

However, to keep this gun related.
One of the funniest things Ive ever had happen to me regarding guns, was in a Roadblock on San Mateo and Academy. They were doing their normal thing of asking for DL and Insurance. when I pulled up to the stopping point I had 2 officers on the drivers side and a gaggle of Police Academy Trainees on the right hand side. I am starting to hand the officer my DL and Insurance when all of a sudden one of the trainees starts yelling gun, gun, gun and all the youngsters were literally freaking out. I had a BHP in between my seat and the center console of my IROC. (That should tell you how long ago it was. lol)
They yanked me out of my vehicle and proceeded to check the gun in the middle of the road while the trainees surround my car. The officer asked me why I had a loaded gun. My reply was "because I can." They toss it and the mag on the passengers seat and away I went. Ill just never forget how freaked out the trainees were.
 
Tarosean, the O&G industry in NM is booming, the last time I tried to get a room in Hobbs I had to call three hotels.
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Im very aware of where its "booming". The only places its technically "booming" in the US are East Texas, Pennsylvania and North Dakota. Service work in the Permian Basin (NM/W. TX) will continue till we tap em dry. Some new plays are being tapped in the Spraberry Trend field which is across the border from Hobbs but thats neither here nor there.

Enough about that.

Your missing several high profile "celebrities". However, I could care less where the rich and famous choose to live. :)

As always, you know what they say about opinions.
 
that is a bunch of snakes! living here in upper east tennessee i might see 3 eastern diamondbacks a year. a lot of copperheads .........but geez, nothing like that. i certainly hope that picture is the exception and not the norm. the eastern diamondback is an endangered species here so you just have to leave them alone which i would do anyway. doesn't look like y'all have that problem.
 
In Colorado, Denver/Boulder is an anomaly compared to the rest of the state of Colorado. There is a reason the current POTUS visits Colorado so much and that a ton of money is being spent for the election in Colorado, which is that Colorado is teetering on becoming a Blue State with the influx of Californians and others from more liberal/welfare states. Plus, Colorado has provided many photo ops, due to natural disasters, for the current POTUS to look and act very concerned for the camera while people's houses burned in Colorado Springs this year.

You can still buy a firearm with the 4473 form and money. No waiting period B.S. Face to face transfers between residents is still legal in Colorado. Amazingly, these facts surprise many sheeple who are brainwashed by TV.

Yes, Colorado has had it's share of high profile nut jobs, and there is reason to be concerned for the future. The current mayor of Denver is a big-time lefty as is the governor.

Overall, Colorado is still a free state, but there is danger of that changing.
 
I can see going into the "holster and boot business" if that's the norm, Is it?
Or a just a fluke? That's a lot of snakes. I have seen lairs of them before but not like that. I don't know if lairs is the proper name, but you know what I mean. I would assume falling into that by accident would be fatal. Especially if alone. You would be bitten so many times that by the time they even medivacked you to a hospital, you would be gone.
Now I need another piece of anti snake garment in my shtf bag. Anything in a large satinless steel cargo style.
 
amx4080 said:
Yes, Colorado has had it's share of high profile nut jobs, and there is reason to be concerned for the future. The current mayor of Denver is a big-time lefty as is the governor.

Overall, Colorado is still a free state, but there is danger of that changing.
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I do agree with you on that point, and I'm not a political fan of Hancock or Hickenlooper.

I have met the governor numerous times in the past, have talked to him at length on a couple of occasions, and have even been to his house a couple of times. He's a personable guy, but his beliefs and my beliefs are not necessarily similar.

Though I haven't discussed gun control issues with either of these politicians, I did notice one recent quote from John Hickenlooper that sounded surprisingly pro-gun. It came out just after the Aurora shooting, and he essentially said something to the effect of 'banning assault weapons won't solve this problem'.

Actually, here's an article (from Bloomberg of all places) that quotes part of what the governor said:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...nlooper-says-gun-control-won-t-stop-evil.html
 
Of all the places listed I've never been more happy than in WY.

Not everyone's cup of tea but I love the culture, the people (and often the lack of), cheap to live, and you can't beat constitutional carry.
 
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