Gun Expert or flunkie for hire?

[Correia]

I'm no veteran either, but the guy is a lousy host.

And SF types don't walk around with a special aura. They are pretty much normal human beings that look and act like everybody else.

 

[Q-Lock]

I'm going to agree with joab on this one. mattw isn't the problem, Richard Machowicz is. The guy is a shoddy host, end of story.

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

real vets bought the priveledge

and i don't recallany of them using the term wannabe. and so far as i know none of them has done more than snipe a lil.and moreimportantlynoone has been able to attack his credentials by anything more than sniping

 

[Roadwild17]

yepp yepp,, lets pick on the young kids because we dont know anything, arent good for aynthing, nd are the downfall of the nation :banghead: and all before lunch too.

Guys its TV, you believe anything they say?????

I dont know if hes a seal or not, frankily I dont care because he sucks as an actor/host. Is the guy on Wild West Tech an actual cowboy back from the day????? probably not.

I would kinda like to see R Lee and Sarg. Furtcake get into a pissing contest, we all know who would win .

 

[Correia]

I don't need to buy the privledge of saying that the guy is a terrible host. He attended the William Shatner School of Drama. Just because somebody served in the military doesn't mean they know jack squat about firearms or entertainment.

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

proving my point

about young boys testosterone and bombast.
but i will agree sarge is a better actor.and he made that one role his identity.funny how folks think people are the role

 

[dfaugh]

what does a seal act like?n your experience that is.
its a function of youth to be impressed by bombast and noise.

I've been "associated" witha a variety of Special Forces types, over the years. Mostly Force Recon Marines, and Army Deltas, but a couple of SEALs too.

NONE of them will talk about their experiences, until you get to know them VERY well.

 

[Correia]

Dfaugh, nope. Just like any other line of work, some people like to talk, others do not.

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

bingo dfaugh

and most of emwould never talk on tv about em.most ofthe real ones are real
quiet about it.i always get a case of the ass when someone questions anothers service .especially those who do it from ambush.not having balls to accuse face to face,or at least with facts is almost as low as a fraud

 

[lathedog]

Hi,

http://veriseal.org/ is still around. The other website mentioned above ("identiseal" or whatever) was a bogus site, per veriseal. Kinda funny a bogus website trying to "out" bogus SEALs.

Is the host's last name Marcinko? (sp?) The guy that wrote all the books? If so he's real. I'm guessing most folks know about him though. I'm just wondering as I've never seen the show.

I have a friend who's father ran across Marcinko in Vietnam. He (the friend's father) was featured in one of the books R.M. wrote about his SEAL experiences in Vietnam, although the father's name was changed for the book. I'm talking about the non-fictional books, not the "Blue Team", etc, fictional adventure yarns. Let's just say the friend's father told the story a bit differently than recounted in the book, and had photos to back up his version. Sadly he passed away a few years back.

I concur Tales of the Gun was pretty good.

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

not marcinko

very different persona

 

[High Planes Drifter]

Bring back tales of the gun. At least they would try to be accurate.
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+1. TOTG was a good show. The historians they featured were very well versed in the firearms of topic. I really like Mail Call also. Not a fan of Tactical to Practical or Future Weapons. I'm pretty sure ol' R. Lee would law down a whoopin' on both of those hosts at the same time. Probably wouldnt even set down his watermelon to do it

 

[HankB]

. . . lets pick on the young kids because we dont know anything, arent good for aynthing, nd are the downfall of the nation . . .

It's been a long time since I've been a "young kid" but I remember times when, in my early teens, I was better informed than some old codgers who worked in gun shops as "perfeshunuls."

I remember one teacher who claimed - based on his ARMY experience - that a .45 would knock a man flat even if the slug hit him in the finger.

I had a teacher in high school - an ex-Marine, no less - who claimed before the whole class that, with a standard M1 Rifle, he could hit a man exactly between the eyes at 500 yards every time. And he asserted that I wouldn't be able to hit a man at 10 feet with a .45. (He got a mite upset when I challenged him to put his money where his mouth was. )

Vets who served honorably deserve a modicom of respect, but IIRC it was no less a personage than Jeff Cooper who said words to the effect of "Just because a man has been there and done that doesn't mean he knows what the hell he's talking about."

Based on his commentary during the show, the host of Future Weapons would seem to be a contender for that category.

 

[stevelyn]

Just because someone was in the military, whether it be the SEALs, a line grunt or supply toady doesn't make them an expert or even knowledgeable in weaponry.

Remember some of the dumba$$ comments Eric Haney made on tv during the DC sniper shootings? There you have it.

 

[Jeff Timm]

Whatever the man's shortcomings as a host, and a LOT of that comes from the Director and writers.

He can hit a small silhouette, off hand, at 300 meters with an unfamiliar rifle. Don't know about you, but that's pretty fair country shoot'n where I comes from.

Geoff
Who was in the US Army Ordnance Corps once upon a time.

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

acting

i find it amusing that a guy who spent more time as an actor gets loved cause he plays a gunny so well.i like him too but try not to confuse role with man.when i was young loud talking tough guys scared/impressed me. then i whupped a few of em. more importantly i had my butt whupped real good by some real soft spoken geeks. very important lesson in character assesment

 

[10 Ring Tao]

I've found military guy's knowledge to be deep in what they were trained on, but very narrow in the big picture.

They know their service weapon inside and out, but get much past that, and they're just grasping at air.

They funny thing is, a lot of them seem to think that because they shot/shoot a gun for a living, it makes them experts on anything that fires a bullet.

 

[Mumbles_45]

I've found military guy's knowledge to be deep in what they were trained on, but very narrow in the big picture.

They know their service weapon inside and out, but get much past that, and they're just grasping at air.

They funny thing is, a lot of them seem to think that because they shot/shoot a gun for a living, it makes them experts on anything that fires a bullet.

+1 to that. Matter of fact, + a lot more than one. I was just waiting to read to the end of this thread to say exactly what you've just said.

I can't count how many times I have had to explain the differences between 7.62x51, 7.62x54 and 7.62x39. Then there are the guys who refer to any belt fed weapon bigger than a SAW but smaller than .50 as a "240" whether it be an M-60, a PK, or any number of other GPMGs. I had a mortar come up to me and tell me he saw an M-14 just like mine at the Big-5 for $60 "its the Mosin-Nagant edition" he told me. It took me a good long while to explain that what I had was an M-24, what exactly an M-14 is, and how a Mosin is a completely different item all together

most ofthe real ones are real quiet about it.

Not necessarily so. I've known a some that were and some that weren't.

 

[RustyShackelford]

VeriSEAL.org

If you take issue with this TV host or his "bona-fides" then here is what you may want to do;

I'd check www.veriSEAL.org . It's a useful resource to check the backgrounds of men who claim to be US Navy SEALs. The site has parts that are shut down for some unknown reason but if you email them you can get a quick response.

I emailed VeriSEAL.org about a guy who claimed to be a VietNam combat veteran and US Navy SEAL who was interviewed by the Orlando Sentinel. "Honoring Combat Veterans"- 04/16/2006 if you want to read it: www.OrlandoSentinel.com .

This dude said he saw people die in SE Asia and was spit on and called a "baby-killer" when he returned to the US. VeriSEAL.org checked the BUD/S records and this SEAL-wannabe was not listed.

As a US military veteran, it burns my %*# that these jerk-offs claim to be spec ops super troopers and "heroes". This subject has been posted before so I won't go on anymore.

RS

 

[Quinch]

Why pick on the nineteen year old when actual veterans have said the same or similar things.

Target of opportunity. Can't defend the host because:

The host sucks.

 

[mattw]

He can hit a small silhouette, off hand, at 300 meters with an unfamiliar rifle. Don't know about you, but that's pretty fair country shoot'n where I comes from.

It sure looked like he did that but they could've been there all day waiting for him to do it and edited the misses out. Or even had someone else take the shot.

Btw, dad says: "When I was in Vietnam some of the SEALs I ran across were pretty rough. They really seemed like they belonged there doing exactly what they were doing. Then there were others that are like that host of Future Weapons. The goof-ball geek f*cks that make you wonder, 'How the hell did you get here?'"

That doesn't have any weight because I'm just 19 and I could be making all that crap up and my dad might have never even been in the Marines, much less a scout/sniper attatched to a force recon unit. But I though I'd just throw that in there.

 

[zeke1312]

When I served in the regular army 1960 thru 1966, we didn't know an AK47 from jackxxxx. Basic training : we used M1 Garands and .30 cal carbines. We were more concerned with Russian Bear bombers and their nuclear threat. Yea, before operational ICBMs. Then the war of the future was coming from the air not ground pounding. I served in the Nike Missile Air defense during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Very interesting! Some of you have been watching too much news lately.

I had a Lee E. type as a drill sgt at Ft Hood TX. Bet some of your boister would turn to s*** running down your leg if a Lee got on your xxx. Now, back to your question.

 

[carterbeauford]

Bring back tales of the gun. At least they would try to be accurate.

See signature.

Also see http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=197346

 

[mmike87]

Dispense with the former SEAL and hire a tight-bodied hottie to host the show. At least if she gets the facts wrong we won't care.

 

[Mumbles_45]

mmike for president