kids playing with guns in stores!

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I was in Cabelas in MI. I reached up to touch a gun in the library & some guy screamed at me""DON'T TOUCH THAT GUN""--OUCH
I purchased a 22 pistol ( with my CPL)& they stuck me with a new employee--one hour later we were finished.
OH WHAT FUN
 
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17-22 aren't kids. They're young adults. I would have told then to stop in a very stern manner. Then I would have followed-up with some relaxed instruction.

Almost my sentiments.

17 years old is a "young adult" in my book. 18 and older (and graduated from HS) is an adult, in my book. All behavior aside, that is.

I had this talk with my son at age 13...I consider "teens" between the age of 13 and 17 to be "young adults". They're not "children" any more, but they're not yet full grown adults, either. They're in that stage of their life where they're actively growing into adulthood, pushing their limits and working towards independence.

The key, I informed my son, is to realize this: if you want to be treated as an adult, with all that goes along with it, then ACT like an adult. If you want to be treated like a child, then act like a child...but remember that a child cannot do anything on their own without supervision, nor can they be trusted by themselves.

He was also informed that, while he was under my care until 18 and graduated and that I make SOME allowances for "backsliding", once he turned 18 he's an adult in the eyes of the law. This means he will be held accountable as an adult for the consequences of his behavior, childish or otherwise.

17-22 is MORE than old enough to be exhibiting adult behavior, most especially around firearms.
 
I was in Cabelas in MI. I reached up to touch a gun in the library & some guy screamed at me""DON'T TOUCH THAT GUN""--OUCH
I purchased a 22 pistol ( with my CPL)& they stuck me with a new employee--one hour later we were finished.
OH WHAT FUN
why arent you allowed to touch them? I was there last night for some reloading supplies and went into the library to look over 2 types of stocks so i can order my boyds and the guy said "you guys doing okay" I said yep just looking at a couple stock designs. one rifle was a $2k weatherby.
 
Almost my sentiments.

17 years old is a "young adult" in my book. 18 and older (and graduated from HS) is an adult, in my book. All behavior aside, that is.

I had this talk with my son at age 13...I consider "teens" between the age of 13 and 17 to be "young adults". They're not "children" any more, but they're not yet full grown adults, either. They're in that stage of their life where they're actively growing into adulthood, pushing their limits and working towards independence.

The key, I informed my son, is to realize this: if you want to be treated as an adult, with all that goes along with it, then ACT like an adult. If you want to be treated like a child, then act like a child...but remember that a child cannot do anything on their own without supervision, nor can they be trusted by themselves.

He was also informed that, while he was under my care until 18 and graduated and that I make SOME allowances for "backsliding", once he turned 18 he's an adult in the eyes of the law. This means he will be held accountable as an adult for the consequences of his behavior, childish or otherwise.

17-22 is MORE than old enough to be exhibiting adult behavior, most especially around firearms.
the reason i called them children was they were acting as such. Heck im only 30.
 
why arent you allowed to touch them? I was there last night for some reloading supplies and went into the library to look over 2 types of stocks so i can order my boyds and the guy said "you guys doing okay" I said yep just looking at a couple stock designs. one rifle was a $2k weatherby.
You were in the Cabelas in S/E MI?
 
Don't blame the store, blame the parents.

I think it's appropriate in this circumstance to blame both.

I can't even imagine a gun shop allowing customers to fondle firearms unsupervised. Never been to Cabelas - big box stores are not my thing - but I'd be amazed if that was standard practice here.
 
It is. Both Cabela's and Gander mountain have racks of used guns out on the floor when they have enough inventory to support it. I try to time my visits to them when such cretins as described above are not present, but I have stopped such tomfoolery before. I use gentle humor, while surpressing the urge to choke them out right there......
 
why arent you allowed to touch them? I was there last night for some reloading supplies and went into the library to look over 2 types of stocks so i can order my boyds and the guy said "you guys doing okay" I said yep just looking at a couple stock designs. one rifle was a $2k weatherby.

Maybe one of the social justice warriors in this thread was the one that yelled at him.
 
For me it comes down to whether safe gun handling practices are followed.

Unsafe gun handling puts everyone in the store at risk, therefore, it is my business.

Being hard on the guns is really just between the owner of the merchandise (the store) and the visitors. I don't see how that is my business as another visitor of the store.
 
I thought what's to stop someone from loading up one of these guns and having at it.

Hmmm, where to begin?

Recognize that there are lots of people in this country who wonder "what's to stop someone from loading up" their own gun "and having at it."

Do you seriously want to live in a country with a metal detector on every corner and "stop and frisk" being the norm? I am sure that in the gun store where the guy was carrying around a gun and some ammo there were probably more than a couple of people who were carrying their defensive weapons concealed.
 
Hmmm, where to begin?

Recognize that there are lots of people in this country who wonder "what's to stop someone from loading up" their own gun "and having at it."

Do you seriously want to live in a country with a metal detector on every corner and "stop and frisk" being the norm? I am sure that in the gun store where the guy was carrying around a gun and some ammo there were probably more than a couple of people who were carrying their defensive weapons concealed.

The difference is you are leaving firearms accessible to someone who is potentially prohibited from owning a firearm. There is no such restriction when buying ammo (in most states). So while it's unlikely to happen it is possible for a derange person who otherwise couldn't get access to a gun to walk up with a pocket full of ammo and load it up.

Now the same can be said with a clerk handing someone a gun to see, but at least they are there with them observing.
 
The difference is you are leaving firearms accessible to someone who is potentially prohibited from owning a firearm.

Have you figured out a way to keep those prohibited persons from getting guns? Seems that the most stringent gun control laws haven't been able to stop a single determined criminal, no matter where they have been tried.
 
Have you figured out a way to keep those prohibited persons from getting guns? Seems that the most stringent gun control laws haven't been able to stop a single determined criminal, no matter where they have been tried.

Well the first step of my devious anti-gun plan is not to have racks of unlocked weapons out in a retail store for anyone to fondle.
 
And I want to order a gun out of the Sears catalog and have it delivered to my house, but alas, we no longer live in those times.

So why set yourself up for more restrictions? One of our LGS's here has rack after rack of used long guns, unlocked, and waiting to be fondled by any or all. They also have lots of ammo stacked nearby.
 
So why set yourself up for more restrictions? One of our LGS's here has rack after rack of used long guns, unlocked, and waiting to be fondled by any or all. They also have lots of ammo stacked nearby.

I think I may be arguing something different than you think. I am not talking about a gun store having a rack of guns out, I am talking about a big box retail store leaving an area completely unattended with functional unlocked firearms. Are employees even allowed to carry at Cabelas (in case something were to happen)? I know at a gun store stuff like whats been discussed in this thread wouldn't be tolerated.
 
I think I may be arguing something different than you think. I am not talking about a gun store having a rack of guns out, I am talking about a big box retail store leaving an area completely unattended with functional unlocked firearms. Are employees even allowed to carry at Cabelas (in case something were to happen)? I know at a gun store stuff like whats been discussed in this thread wouldn't be tolerated.

Exactly. Not a problem at all if someone's actually supervising them.
 
im fine with how cabelas does the used to a point. they have trigger locks on them but what I don't like is someone waving it around pointing it in directions of others. being in a high end neighborhood this store sees a lot of families with kids and a kid sees dumb and dumber playing with them like toys they might think its okay and grab dads gun and hurt themselves or someone else. there also are a lot of non gun people in there that don't know the gun has a lock and isn't loaded and it might freak them out. the other store that had used guns with 0 locks sitting in a rack for anyone to grab is highly unacceptable.
 
I have a 19 year old (my youngest) and he would never dream of touching any firearm without permission, regardless of it being locked up or not.
He owns several long guns , most of which haven't been manufactured in decades, so he respects the arms and their heritage.
He is also a member of the National Guard, and knows when you do handle a firearm it's serious business, a philosophy that was lost a long time ago!
Not saying that serious business cannot be enjoyed, it just requires the utmost respect and discipline. But we already know that, hence this conversation.
 
I have a 19 year old (my youngest) and he would never dream of touching any firearm without permission, regardless of it being locked up or not.
He owns several long guns , most of which haven't been manufactured in decades, so he respects the arms and their heritage.
He is also a member of the National Guard, and knows when you do handle a firearm it's serious business, a philosophy that was lost a long time ago!
Not saying that serious business cannot be enjoyed, it just requires the utmost respect and discipline. But we already know that, hence this conversation.

I will have to say, idiots like the "kids" in the OP are the reason I still teach Shooting Sports for 4-H. I teach the Four Rules (TAB-K) every range session; if they're in both Trap and Rifle, they hear it twice that day. After a while it sticks.
Sounds like you've raised him well, tahoe2! :thumbup:
 
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