Panzerschwein
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I see your point. Usually when I'm at the Gun Library there is a man inside. Maybe you could contact the store to tell them what you saw?
kids playing with guns in stores!
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I see your point. Usually when I'm at the Gun Library there is a man inside. Maybe you could contact the store to tell them what you saw?
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Out my way the handguns are kept under a glass counter. To see them you ask. The long guns are generally open for customers to handle and examine. I appreciate this set up very much.
I also appreciate that gun stores encourage gun safety and safe gun handling practices as an integral part of their business. All pay attention to the rules when they walk in the door. The employees in a gun store make sure that is the case. Muzzle awareness, not "playing" with the actions, etc. are enforced.
The conduct of customers is set by the tone management sets. If children, youth or adults are allowed to play with guns in the store that is because management allows it to be the case. By allowing it, they encourage it.
I usually go to gun stores. Cabelas' is not a gun store. They sell guns on the side of their main business. Some Wal-Mart's sell guns. Kids act out there as well.
I also appreciate that gun stores encourage gun safety and safe gun handling practices as an integral part of their business. All pay attention to the rules when they walk in the door. The employees in a gun store make sure that is the case. Muzzle awareness, not "playing" with the actions, etc. are enforced.
The conduct of customers is set by the tone management sets. If children, youth or adults are allowed to play with guns in the store that is because management allows it to be the case. By allowing it, they encourage it.
I usually go to gun stores. Cabelas' is not a gun store. They sell guns on the side of their main business. Some Wal-Mart's sell guns. Kids act out there as well.
1KPerDay
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The local cabelas has the "used" (read "beat to hell") rack available to everyone over 18 (per the sign) but they all have trigger locks on them.
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ohihunter:
It would not surprise me if one of those kids had pants badly needing a belt.
Maybe you catch my drift.
It would not surprise me if one of those kids had pants badly needing a belt.
Maybe you catch my drift.
BullSlinger
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It's Cabala's inventory and if they don't care about it, it's their money.
Solomonson
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17-22 aren't kids. They're young adults. I would have told then to stop in a very stern manner. Then I would have followed-up with some relaxed instruction.
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Dad started me shooting .22 shorts at age 4. Yes different era. I have to admit I have not been to Cabelas but have done a bunch of business with Gander Mtn and many other shops. Nobody has stuff on an open shelf other than old school gun stores and they keep an eye on anybody that walks in, approaches them and asks what help they need. Any screwing around and they will be out the door. Quick.
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Yes this is common in certain neighborhoods. Staff still keeps a vigilant eye and controls the situation.
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There would have been no relaxing instruction from me other than "get out guns are not toys". "Are you planning on purchasing something?"
Hanzo581
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Yeah, some of the blame needs to go on Cabelas, if they have firearms out on display for people to touch, they need more attentive employees in that area.
ScrapMetalSlug
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I have a hard time believing that type of behavior doesn't get them escorted out of the store immediately at a minimum, and potentially the police called.
How many customers would have to complain that someone in the store pointed a gun at them before action was taken? You Should have definitely said something, that's not acceptable anywhere.
How many customers would have to complain that someone in the store pointed a gun at them before action was taken? You Should have definitely said something, that's not acceptable anywhere.
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That's the one thing I like about Cabela's is that I can handle and compare guns. However, I've only ever seen this on the surplus rack not in the Gun Library. There are always signs to ask for an associate in the Gun Library.
Mike
PS. Sportsman's Warehouse has much better prices. Bass Pro has better selection for both gun and non-gun things. That plus the fact it is an all day drive for me to go to Cabela's, shop, and get home means I rarely go. I'm also found I get a lot of attitude from Cabela's. I asked about a bullpub once and the clerk said "We don't carry that kind of gun" with a ton of attitude.
PPS. No more of less that what's stopping the same maniac from running you down in the parking lot I guess.
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My local pawn shop had a nutcase load a 22 rifle without saying anything. That was in the late 70s early 80s and my friend was working there when a customer fired the rifle. The owner went to pieces over it as the bullet barely missed another customer.
This is when he learned to clear the guns before and after the customers handled them.
This is when he learned to clear the guns before and after the customers handled them.
entropy
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Yes. Apparently even their associates don't know the Four Rules.
Solomonson
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It's an opportunity to actually teach. Be stern -- even VERY stern to shock them and get their attention and then explain what's going on. 9 out of 10 times they'll actually learn something and hopefully it won't happen again.
Just yelling at them is going to do nothing more than them giving you the metaphorical middle finger -- in one ear and out.
Cabela's is absolutely just a tourist trap in our State at least. Gun guys don't buy firearms there, they are usually far more expensive than any other local gun shop not to mention the interwebs. My local gunshop allows people to finger bang whatever they want and we don't have any issues. The only problems I've ever seen is people dry firing .22's which we'll tell them beforehand now if it's a .22.
If those "kids" pickup that $400 rifle that has an $800 tag on it and bring the value down to $700 that's Cabela's problem. Half of their employees probably do the same since they certainly aren't gun guys (at least in my area). I especially like the employees that try to pass store policy off as the law. Burns my britches every time. They're just trying to avoid an argument and most people I'm sure nod their heads but its no wonder there is more misinformation out there than good information.
If those "kids" pickup that $400 rifle that has an $800 tag on it and bring the value down to $700 that's Cabela's problem. Half of their employees probably do the same since they certainly aren't gun guys (at least in my area). I especially like the employees that try to pass store policy off as the law. Burns my britches every time. They're just trying to avoid an argument and most people I'm sure nod their heads but its no wonder there is more misinformation out there than good information.
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Agreed but I would have asked them to leave regardless.
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Not sure how picking up a rifle detracts from it's value. None of mine would be worth anything unless they were damaged. Never a good idea to dry fire a .22. I have been told that modern others such as a 1911 should be dry fired to be decocked.
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Keep religion where it belongs- in your heart or church. This is a firearms forum. Thank you kindly.
I didn't see anything religious posted? We also have several very good moderators on this site who keep it clean.
sometimes I think the slight problem here is sometimes guys need to vent other than guns but its very hard to do because some people get upset about it.
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My prior life Army O3 would have definitely made a visit if I saw such behavior, regardless of starting "issues".
I was referring to the OP's concern of them damaging the firearms. Obviously just handling it will not hurt the value of a firearm.
The store employees should have put a stop to this behavior immediately. If the parents got mad, tough. It was unacceptable on so many levels. The gun safety issue being paramount, what if they had pulled a box of ammo from the shelves and loaded up and started playing, talk about a disaster for all involved. One also has to consider the possible damage to one of the weapons, are the parents prepared to pay for a $700 firearm their kid was just playing with when they damage or scratch it up? If the kid playing with an M1 had not seated the bolt all the way back he would have been introduced to Garand thumb the painful way. When I take my boys to a gun shop they ask if they can look at a piece and then they are to follow the 4 rules of gun safety, no horsing around these are real weapons that can kill you if you play with them. Totally unacceptable behavior on the part of the kids in this store.
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