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Gun locks grace farmers' gates

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  1. Drizzt

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    Gun locks grace farmers' gates
    Thursday, March 24, 2005
    By CLINT CONFEHR

    An $80 million federal grant program to distribute gun locks free for the protection of children appears to have pivoted off course since they're being used by farmers to keep their gates locked.

    "If you look from the road at farmers' gates, you can see them," Bedford County Sheriff's Detective Sgt. Chris Brown said today when asked about comments from Wartrace Town Hall Wednesday.

    Wartrace Town Clerk Kim Curbow said Project ChildSafe's cable-style gun locks "look like a lock you would use on a bicycle." She and Wartrace Police Chief Ben Burris agreed the locks would also work as a farm gate lock.

    "That's true," Brown said when asked about the observation in Wartrace. "They do use them for that."

    Lawmen in Bedford County endorsed Project ChildSafe's goal -- protecting curious children from injury and/or death if they mishandle their parents' guns. However, two of the three law enforcement offices said they had locks left over from last year's distribution. Meanwhile, Wartrace has no trouble distributing the locks in its more rural area.

    For at least the second year in a row, Project ChildSafe visited Bedford County with boxes of hundreds, perhaps thousands of gun locks delivered to Shelbyville and Wartrace police and the Bedford County Sheriff's Department, the federally-funded organization said.

    "Phase two of Project ChildSafe is funded by two grants from the U.S. Department of Justice that total $30 million," the group's press release reported. "These two grants will fund the program from Sept. 1, 2004, through Aug. 31, 2005. Phase one of Project ChildSafe was funded by a $50 million U.S. Department of Justice grant."

    Project ChildSafe's Tennessee media contact, Shannon Bichteman, at the group's headquarters in Albany, N.Y., was asked if she knew about use of the gun locks as fence gate locks.

    "Really?" Bichteman replied. "OK. That's not what they're intended for. We distribute them to the departments and let them distribute them and take the program in a direction they want."

    Burris spoke at length yesterday about gun safety and having some of the locks in his patrol car available if the subject is raised in conversation. Brown also endorsed gun safety, but with more locks than his department can distribute, he's tried to deal with that situation.

    "I've called those people back and it' not like you can stop them," Brown said. "When they bring them, they bring 15-20 cases. I wouldn't mind taking some every year if we didn't have to take so many."

    Bedford lawmen are using lock displays provided with the locks.

    Steve Alger, national director of government relations for Project ChildSafe, acknowledged he has "heard of some isolated incidents" of misuse of the locks, "especially if they're put on gates."

    Five trucks are delivering the locks in Tennessee, Alger said

    "We come through once a year," he said. If a police department "had leftovers, we have other communities who are clamoring for more" locks.

    Alger said he'd speak with Project ChildSafe's regional coordinator, Sarah Bowman, today at their offices in Albany about redistribution of an abundance of locks in parts of Tennessee.

    Shelbyville Police Chief Austin Swing said his department received more locks Wednesday morning.

    "We told them we didn't need them," Swing said. "We've got quite a few left."

    Wartrace has about 600 locks at Town Hall, the town clerk said.

    Head Start and day care centers will be notified of the locks' availability, said Town Recorder Laura Gentry.

    "They brought quite a few, so we were thinking about ways to distribute them," Gentry said.

    A sign is posted at the front of Wartrace Town Hall announcing the locks availability in the part of Bedford County where the sheriff's detective lives and where he has noticed gun locks on farm gates.

    "But we've distributed over 30 million locks," Alger said. "If this was a significant problem you'd see them on every shed along the street. Obviously, there will be miscreants who will misuse them, but they're very few and far between."

    It's worse, he said, if someone has firearms and chooses to use the lock on a gate and not a gun, he said. That would be putting a locked gate above family safety.

    "That's sad," Alger said.

    Wartrace's police chief said at least 200 locks were distributed last year. The town's population is about 550. More locks were received Wednesday, and 500 could be distributed "easily" in less than a month, Burris said.

    "Most people who get them have small children," Burris said. "It could discourage them from picking up the gun but, of course, you have to teach them not to play with guns. The lock is a deterrent. It's not the only way to keep your kids safe.

    "Some people don't believe in these," he said. "They say that if they had to get the key and unlock it before somebody gets in, then it's not available for protection, but you've got to protect your kids from the gun."

    Project ChildSafe said the national Shooting Sports Foundation has partnered with local law enforcement agencies to distribute 285,000 gun locks in Tennessee.

    "There continues to be a significant demand for firearm safety education across America and we are pleased that Project ChildSafe is able to meet that demand," said Doug Painter, president of the foundation, who emphasized safe gun storage and handling.

    http://www.t-g.com/story/1092346.html

    ....and here I thought I was the only one putting my collection of gun locks to creative use. When you lock your bike to the fence outside your home with a Mossberg lock, people leave the bike alone.
     
  2. dasmi

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    What a waste of tax dollars. You watch, very soon some politician will introduce a law banning the use of government provided gun locks on anything other than guns.
     
  3. Ukraine Train

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    I wouldn't mind getting a few of those, and actually use them on my guns. Wonder why I haven't heard of this program before.
     
  4. Missourigunner

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    Gun Locks grace Farmers gates

    A waste of taxpayers money. Speaking of Locks, The County Sheriff here gives out free gun locks, Yesterday, I went by the sheriffsa office to pick up some paperwork and I asked the lady working the Window for some gun locks, she asked me how many I needed? I told her 2 or 3. She gave them to me and commented that I was the First person in 6 Months to as for Gun Locks. She even thanked me for my interest. :) :)
     
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    I dunno , If a BG cuts the gun lock on your gate, makes sense to me to have the Firearm easy and quick to access without the gunlock - lot of good it did on the gate - right?

    I mean it does prove locks are not always a deterrent, and BGs don't respect the SYMBOL a lock represents -

    Then again free gun lock are great to put on Fire Extinguishers to frustrate the hell out of a Anti to prove one's point. *ahem* ;)
     
  6. jefnvk

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    You know how many gun locks I have lying around?

    Every gun (I dunno if this is MI or nationwide) must be sold with a lock. I've gotten about 10 guns this year. Add those to the locks I get when I register a pistol. And when I get a pistol, they give me a lock when I get a permit, and when I bring it in for inspection. That is two locks per pistol.

    I just have locks lying everywhere. That probably isn't a bad use for them.

    Actually, most of mine are two pieces of plastic with a screw throught them (Century arms locks) They are good for nothing, not even guns.
     
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    I keep my gun locks right next to the fire extinguisher padlocks.
     
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    Every time I go to the elementary schhol close to me (polling Place) I am amazed at how many of the bike locks are marked Ruger Mossberg S&W
     
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    "Obviously, there will be miscreants who will misuse them, but they're very few and far between."

    I love that. So if I have a gunsafe, and all of the guns are in the safe, I have no need for all of these locks. But using them for anything else makes me a miscreant. :rolleyes:
     
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    Actually, owning guns makes you a miscreant. Misusing a gun lock just makes it worse. :p
     
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    Aside from the waste of taxpayer money, which I don't agree with, I think it's hilarious, if you think about it. Criminal walks down the road. Decides to burgle a farmhouse in the middle of nowhere. Comes upon the gates lock, with a GUN LOCK.

    This tells him several things:

    1. The owner of the house has a gun; and
    2. he doesn't have a trigger lock on it at the moment
    3. criminal deduces he probably ought to move along and hopefully find somplace populated by anti-gun liberals.
     
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    The law that requires new guns to be sold with a lock is a farce. It had nothing to do with gun safety and everything to do with pork. It was introduced by Sen Kohl, at a time when master Lock Co. or Milwaukee was struggling and facing bankrupcy. Kohl introduced this law knowing that it would boost Master Lock sales. It certainly did boost sales, but Master moved to Mexico anyhow. Scrtew Kohl, screw the gun lock law. :fire:
     
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    The last time we moved I must have run across a zillion of those little cable-style locks. Couldn't bear to throw them away - I think there's one in every toolbox now.

    Got my first one of those Century two-discs-and-two-screws locks the other weekend with a pawnshop buy. Had never seen one before - almost left the store before I realized the cashier hadn't given me the key to open it. :rolleyes:
     
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    Somebody probably mentioned this already, but the lock distribution programs are friggin useless. CA law requires a dealer to sell me a lock (not just make sure I have one, I have to buy one from him.), so what's the point?
     
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    Hear yea, here yea, I believe our new member, Husker1911, has nailed this issue perfectly. Welcome aboard!
     
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    If youwant some they give them away by the pound at most SOs and Fish and Game offices.
     
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    They keep shoe boxes from standing around empty in the garage.
     
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    Wilkes-Barre PA gave out gun locks then recalled them since they didn't work !!
     
  19. Stand_Watie

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    The bull in that farmer's field is way more dangerous than an unsecured firearm.
     
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    This actually hits close to home...

    The gunlock I got with my G27 is hanging on my front gate to keep Mack and Jack the wonder mutts from opening it up, lol.
     
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    i just keep em in the pistol box. not that i'd ever sell a gun, but my backwards thinkin tells me it helps resale i never plan to collect. . . . :p
     
  22. Jeff White

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    It never was a very popular program around here. I found a big box of locks in the storeroom at work a while back. A woman who works with my wife asked me for a couple about a year ago. Other then that, I've never had anyone ask for one....Jeff
     
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    I feel that they are a bad attempt at a half measure. If you arms need to be secured, get a safe. If they need to be accessible a lock is an impediment.
     
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    I have one on each of my gates!

    I have 2 or 3 more lying around, not to mention 2 or 3 of my newer guns had their brand specific ones in the case, which is where they remain.

    I was given several at the rifle range once. I think Black Snowman was given a CASE of them when he asked.
     
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    That is too funny! I also have used a cable style gun lock on a gate. If I saw a gate with a gun lock on it I would rob somewhere else. Local PD gave away a bunch of lock, then had to quit and recall them becasue they were found defective and they were afraid of getting sued. Too funny!

    BTW, if the cable is long enough and you have the thing in the locked position and you slip your hand through the loop and let the two cables run through your fist with the lock poking out the top and flopping around a bit they make a decent improvised impact weapon that can be carried anywhere, even overseas (I travel a lot).

    Tsh77769
     
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