There is but one true authority in our lives. When people (the government) try to claim they are an authority over us and intervene between us and the true authority and we fight against that, then to be labeled an insurrectionist for this would be a proud title to have.
Gun owners are now 'insurrectionists'
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SharpsDressedMan
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That is actually a compliment that far too few gun owners deserve. Our founding fathers were the true armed insurrectionists! If only every U.S. gun owner was willing to take such a stand. The rest of the world would take notice.
Erik M
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I apologize for my lack of detail, I was referring to Mr. Horwitz mentioned in your article.
Officers'Wife
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If your case is strong on the matter of law- argue the law.
If your case has strong emotional appeal- argue the emotion.
If your case has no strengths- demonize the defendant.
(rumored to be the motto of the New York City District Attorney.)
If your case has strong emotional appeal- argue the emotion.
If your case has no strengths- demonize the defendant.
(rumored to be the motto of the New York City District Attorney.)
Group Buy
Any color but camo-prints!! Let the words be easy to read. I attend church with a shirt-printer, and just about any color that's lying around (if it's in your size) can be produced. I don't expect any profit on the deal, and will happily put the Mods in touch with the company if enough are serious, and if that's the way to run it. I'm not much of a Company Exec type. But theidea is a serious one. Anyone??
Any color but camo-prints!! Let the words be easy to read. I attend church with a shirt-printer, and just about any color that's lying around (if it's in your size) can be produced. I don't expect any profit on the deal, and will happily put the Mods in touch with the company if enough are serious, and if that's the way to run it. I'm not much of a Company Exec type. But theidea is a serious one. Anyone??
The Crown considered us terrorists, (Sons of Liberty), we're considered the "Great Satan" by many in the Middle East, and many Europeans still consider us "un-civilized" and decedent. It really doesn't matter much to me and I could care less. The point is every government that controls their populations, both past and present disarmed them.
theotherwaldo
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Many of my ancestors had to leave Scotland after the insurrection.
One of was the last man hung, drawn, and quartered in Great Britain. For insurrection.
Another was chased out of Poland by the Czar's forces. For insurrection.
Some others were arrested by Jackson's forces and later walked the Trail of Tears. For Insurrection.
My sister belongs to both the DAR and the UDC, so I guess my people still hadn't learned about not being insurrectionists.
Why break such a glorious tradition?
One of was the last man hung, drawn, and quartered in Great Britain. For insurrection.
Another was chased out of Poland by the Czar's forces. For insurrection.
Some others were arrested by Jackson's forces and later walked the Trail of Tears. For Insurrection.
My sister belongs to both the DAR and the UDC, so I guess my people still hadn't learned about not being insurrectionists.
Why break such a glorious tradition?
tasco 74
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I'm with big e
i prefer to refered to as constitutionalist..................................... and thomas jefferson was right on about everthing he said.....................
LIFE IS SHORT...... can you hear me?? can you hear me runnin?? can you me callin you??.....................
i prefer to refered to as constitutionalist..................................... and thomas jefferson was right on about everthing he said.....................
LIFE IS SHORT...... can you hear me?? can you hear me runnin?? can you me callin you??.....................
w_houle
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The Constitution demands that tyrrany is overthrown... but oh, by the way Mr. Frog: Your water is boiling.
ConstitutionCowboy
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I posted the following on a local website earlier today:
Woody
"It is up to We the People to decide if and when we shall revolt. It is not up to those in government to prevent it. It is up to those in government to see that revolution never becomes necessary." B.E.Wood
See how people like Horwitz, Anderson and Cornell must redefine words to get their "point" across? Take a currently distasteful word like "insurrectionists" and cast any particular group under the word, and viola! Instant demonize-ation. Instant derision.
An insurrectionist is one who rises up or revolts against established authority. What is the established authority in this country? Yes, it's the Constitution for the United States of America. Who are the REAL insurrectionists? Who are the REAL defenders of the Constitution?
The REAL insurrectionists are projecting. The REAL insurrectionists have never had a logical argument, must stir up emotions, teeter on the pretense of their elitism, and have come to the realization that they are just about to fall. Unarmed as they are, figuratively and most likely physically, they must incite the hoi polloi to do battle for them. They make themselves the hidden head of a snake, wagging the body of the snake out there while they - the cowardly head of the snake - hide out in their lairs of academe, litigation, and legislation.
Don't fear these people, because they fear us!
Keep up the good work, my fellow defenders of the Constitution. See how they run?
An insurrectionist is one who rises up or revolts against established authority. What is the established authority in this country? Yes, it's the Constitution for the United States of America. Who are the REAL insurrectionists? Who are the REAL defenders of the Constitution?
The REAL insurrectionists are projecting. The REAL insurrectionists have never had a logical argument, must stir up emotions, teeter on the pretense of their elitism, and have come to the realization that they are just about to fall. Unarmed as they are, figuratively and most likely physically, they must incite the hoi polloi to do battle for them. They make themselves the hidden head of a snake, wagging the body of the snake out there while they - the cowardly head of the snake - hide out in their lairs of academe, litigation, and legislation.
Don't fear these people, because they fear us!
Keep up the good work, my fellow defenders of the Constitution. See how they run?
Woody
"It is up to We the People to decide if and when we shall revolt. It is not up to those in government to prevent it. It is up to those in government to see that revolution never becomes necessary." B.E.Wood
22-rimfire
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I'm offended by the label "insurrectionist" as I equate it with treasonous behavior not libertarion.
The label reminds me of the people who rebelled against the USSR from the government's perspective. Many of the movements were successful. Most had the support of the USA. Who is going to support these so called American insurrectionists? Al-Qaeda? Hezbollah? SA Drug Cartels? You see, the connotation is extremely negative from the perspective of the typical US citizen.
The label reminds me of the people who rebelled against the USSR from the government's perspective. Many of the movements were successful. Most had the support of the USA. Who is going to support these so called American insurrectionists? Al-Qaeda? Hezbollah? SA Drug Cartels? You see, the connotation is extremely negative from the perspective of the typical US citizen.
Shung
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doesn't "insurrection" mean "fighting for liberty" ?
what does it mean if somebody calls you an insurrectionist ? that maybe part of your freedom as been taken away.. or close to it..
what does it mean if somebody calls you an insurrectionist ? that maybe part of your freedom as been taken away.. or close to it..
Ohio Gun Guy
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Cold dead hands brothers! ............
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:banghead:divemedic
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Because George Washington was a traitor who helped to lead a successful rebellion. whether or not one is a traitor or a patriot is always viewed through the lens of success and history.
How to argue law.
From an article at: http://www.negotiationlawblog.com/ "...it's not just numbers entering the negotiation environment that influence decision-makers, it's also the way in which the information pertinent to the case is characterized. I don't need to tell lawyers this, all of whom were weaned on this proposition: if you don't have the facts, argue and law and if you don't have the law argue the facts." Evidently an old maxim. Un-attributed, but still valid. "If your case is strong on the matter of law- argue the law. If your case has strong emotional appeal- argue the emotion. If your case has no strengths- demonize the defendant." Very nicely amended. IMHO. We will see soon enough, that it IS all about the gun.
From an article at: http://www.negotiationlawblog.com/ "...it's not just numbers entering the negotiation environment that influence decision-makers, it's also the way in which the information pertinent to the case is characterized. I don't need to tell lawyers this, all of whom were weaned on this proposition: if you don't have the facts, argue and law and if you don't have the law argue the facts." Evidently an old maxim. Un-attributed, but still valid. "If your case is strong on the matter of law- argue the law. If your case has strong emotional appeal- argue the emotion. If your case has no strengths- demonize the defendant." Very nicely amended. IMHO. We will see soon enough, that it IS all about the gun.
On Glen Beck last night he spoke about a book out of France, written by the socialist left being released here in a couple of weeks in which they were OPENLY CALLING FOR ARMED INSURRECTION. The title was "The Coming Insurrection" Yet we're the bad guys?!?!?!?:banghead::banghead:
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Some beleive insurrection is wrong, an against the law, that is
rebellion against the government.....but didn't our Constitution give us that right if our government went against our Constitution...?....so then if our government decided to declare war on the Constitution, would they not be the real insurrectionist....that is if you feel insurrection is wrong...?
rebellion against the government.....but didn't our Constitution give us that right if our government went against our Constitution...?....so then if our government decided to declare war on the Constitution, would they not be the real insurrectionist....that is if you feel insurrection is wrong...?
moooose102
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well, the government is no longer what our founding fathers designed. it has become a corrupt, evil place where the "good of the people" has been replaced by the "good for the representitives" logic. to heck with the people.
it wont be a knock at 3 am, they will bust down your door, swat style, throw everyone into handcuffs, comfiscate all the guns they can find, and cart you off to jail. call child protective services and chuck your kids into the "system" because you as a gun owner are unfit to be parents, because you are poisoning the kids with your political veiws and exposing them to guns. if you shoot at the intruders when they break in your door, they will just kill you with their full auto weapons, and then carry out their missoin.
i've never been a fan of thowing my life away for somebody elses war. but when they come dirctly after us, to our own back yard so to speak, something has to be done. if you want to call me an isurectionist, go for it. that is not my name, or my game. i am a true loyalist. faithful to our constitution and our founding fathers ideals, and for what they had intended.
part of the problem in this country has been our own apathy. we should have shamed people like dr. joyce brothers right out of the publics eyes a long time ago. all of this touchy feely crap has lead to our nation turning into a bunch of soft wish-washy people with no backbone. she came along just in time to poison all the baby-boomers minds when they were in their impressionable years, and it really screwed up our country. she, personally is not to blame, but the veiws she portrayed, along with many others who jumped on the bandwagon with her is. it is funny, that the generation who wanted to "stick it to the man" does not have the ba((s to stand up to the politicians that gave away our country.
it started with the idiot carter giving away the panama canal, then, a bunch of those idiots gave away our nation with the n.a.f.t.a. treaty. now, we are all paying the price. every single person involved in the writing of the nafta treaty, along with the president who signed it, should be hanged for treason!
sorry for the rant, i am just sick and tired of this country going to he(( in a hand basket. it is a good thing that most of the wwI and wwII vets are gone. they had the stones to make this country what it once was, and now, it is headed on a huge downhill slide. i do not know if it can be stopped now. for my kids sake, i hope it can. but it will take a real man to grab the reins of this country, and a lot of backing by the rest of us to help him carry out a very unpopular house cleaning. if he could do it, without getting assasinated would be another story. corruption runs deep in washington. i think the only way it could be done sucesssfully is for us to vote in a whole different political party instead of the Democrats and republicans. if the majority of them get voted out, then the job could be done. i also dont see a political party coming right out saying it is going to do such a thing either. so, until the next civil war starts, it is probably just going to keep getting worse.
Insurrectionists on THR
"It sounds like many of the posters on this site are insurrectionists, even." And your problem with this is.. .. .. .. .. exactly what? The alarming part of this administration is that its leader (not MINE) is not talking like a leader, but too, too much like a martyr. So Be It. Molon etc. "But they have automatic weapons." So? We may, also. Pay for the paper, use the gun. My "cold, dead hands" are in the bushes behind you.
"It sounds like many of the posters on this site are insurrectionists, even." And your problem with this is.. .. .. .. .. exactly what? The alarming part of this administration is that its leader (not MINE) is not talking like a leader, but too, too much like a martyr. So Be It. Molon etc. "But they have automatic weapons." So? We may, also. Pay for the paper, use the gun. My "cold, dead hands" are in the bushes behind you.
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