Yes, it probably all would be fake. But I think it would be easier to fake an FFL than a DL. After all, penty of guys write bad checks showing real ID, for significant amounts. I think it's partly a case of people caught up in an addition willing to buy something for a $1000 and pawn it for $200 to get a few more hands of poker or lines of coke damn the consequences and partly people who simply realize you can't get blood from a stone. If they are unaware of what extra penalties a fake FFL would bring, I can see someone taking a bit of time and faking one up.
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Yes, it probably all would be fake. But I think it would be easier to fake an FFL than a DL. After all, penty of guys write bad checks showing real ID, for significant amounts. I think it's partly a case of people caught up in an addition willing to buy something for a $1000 and pawn it for $200 to get a few more hands of poker or lines of coke damn the consequences and partly people who simply realize you can't get blood from a stone. If they are unaware of what extra penalties a fake FFL would bring, I can see someone taking a bit of time and faking one up.
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I'd be willing to take the cash & hold the weapon till he can get me a money order or the balance in cash. I'd even eat shipping if that were the case.
But a check from someone I haven't at least done biz with once before? Nope.
But a check from someone I haven't at least done biz with once before? Nope.
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Okay, so I read through this whole thread, and it's kinda depressing. At our gun shows, the fairgrounds have only a couple ATMs, and by late morning on gun show days, they're both typically out of money. I guess if one was desperate they could walk all the way off the fairgrounds and hit the ATM at the nearby 7-11 ... The good news is that most vendors accept credit cards, though many private sellers can't.
I've used checks when I ran out of money (after spending the $1000 I took to the show) and never had a problem convincing a table holder to take my check.
Guess we trust people a bit more up here ...
I've used checks when I ran out of money (after spending the $1000 I took to the show) and never had a problem convincing a table holder to take my check.
Guess we trust people a bit more up here ...
I guess so.
There's more than one way a check deal can go south. Not only can the check bounce, but a disgruntled buyer can stop payment on it. And yet, the guy provided lots of ID and it is illegal to issue a bad check. If I was really eager to sell a gun, I would probably take it. I always take cash and my checkbook to gun shows, but have never actually tried to buy an expensive gun with a check. Tough choice.
I would NOT take a check from anyone I don't already know for anything of significant value, like a gun.
I was confirmed in this opinion years ago when a co-worker of my next door neighbor did every song and dance you can imagine to get me to take his check (on a Sunday) for a Ruger #1 I was selling. I refused again, and again until he finally gave up. I found out from the neighbor later on that this guy had bragged to him in the past about screwing people out of their property with bad checks.
Now, in a situation like that I will hold the item for a deposit of 10 percent or so and conclude the deal when they bring me the rest of the cash. I make my purchases the same way if I don't have the full amount.
I was confirmed in this opinion years ago when a co-worker of my next door neighbor did every song and dance you can imagine to get me to take his check (on a Sunday) for a Ruger #1 I was selling. I refused again, and again until he finally gave up. I found out from the neighbor later on that this guy had bragged to him in the past about screwing people out of their property with bad checks.
Now, in a situation like that I will hold the item for a deposit of 10 percent or so and conclude the deal when they bring me the rest of the cash. I make my purchases the same way if I don't have the full amount.
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