GUNFIRE AT WAFFLE HOUSE AFTER WHITES, HISPANICS ARGUE OVER CITIZENSHIP

[Desertdog]

GUNFIRE AT WAFFLE HOUSE AFTER WHITES, HISPANICS ARGUE OVER CITIZENSHIP
http://drudgereport.com/flash5wh.htm

A parting gunshot from a vehicle leaving Waffle House in West Asheville, NC shattered a window and caused a minor injury, police said.

The shooting happened around 3:00 a.m. Saturday after a group of whites argued with a group of Hispanics at the 24-hour restaurant on Smokey Park Highway, Asheville police Lt. Wallace Welch said

“The two groups were jawing back and forth with each other over citizenship issues and whatnot,” Welch said.

As the Hispanic group drove off, someone in the vehicle fired at least once into a large window near the front door, he said.

Whether from a ricocheted bullet or flying glass, Welch said, one man’s arm was bleeding when police arrived.

Police were looking for a white Dodge Intrepid that left the restaurant going west.

The CITIZEN-TIMES newspaper first reported the incident, and is currently streaming the 9-11 calls from the Waffle House on its website.

 

[Igloodude]

Nothing convinces people that you're correct like firing a bullet at them.

 

[Erebus]

Anyone wanna guess the odds that the shooter or the gun were legal?

Anyone wanna guess how long it will take for the shooter's legal status to become a non-issue if he is determined to be illegal?

Anyone wanna guess how long it takes for someone to suggest this is an example of why we need another foolish gun law?

Anyone wanna guess how long it takes for someone to suggest that one of the whites used a racial slur and therefore was the "real" bad guy here because he is racist?

 

[Mizzle187]

Anyone wanna guess which party was doing the drive by shooting? Bad I know but this si the kind of story I wish was on the front page of every newpaper to show people with sombreros over their eyes the light.

 

[Erebus]

Anyone wanna guess which party was doing the drive by shooting?

THe article states it was the hispanic group as they left.

 

[Manedwolf]

From what I've seen, a Waffle House at 3am is about as situationally safe to be in as a convenience store at 3am.

 

[real_name]

Waffle House at any hour is unsafe, for your intestinal tract.

What were Hispanics doing there anyway? Does WH offer Mexican food now?

 

[crazed_ss]

From what I've seen, a Waffle House at 3am is about as situationally safe to be in as a convenience store at 3am.

haha.. I was thinking the same thing.
Awhile back I visited some family in Baton Rouge. I was hungry so me and my dad went to the only place that was open.. Waffle House. A black guy walks in with a white girl and in no less than 5-10 mins, there's about to be all an out brawl in the place because some good ol' boys at another table didnt approve of this interracial couple. Being from CA, I was shocked.

I talk to some other people and they said all kinds of bizzare crap happens late at night in Waffle House establishments..
Lesson learned.. Dont go to the Waffle House and the South is still filled with a bunch of racist jerkoffs.

 

[pax]

Anyone wanna guess how long it takes for someone to suggest this is an example of why we need another foolish gun law?

Yeah, as opposed to suggesting we need yet another unenforceable anti-immigration law.

pax

 

[crazed_ss]

What were Hispanics doing there anyway? Does WH offer Mexican food now?

Because Hispanics only eat Mexican food right?

Gimme a break..

 

[Biker]

Dunno Pax, I figure the laws are enforcable, it just requires the will to do so. We already have 'em on the books. Why pass more?
Biker

 

[Camp David]

This is surprising... our local IHOP is normally a peaceful place and arguments only concern amount of blueberries in the high stack! Perhaps such Hispanic rage will permeate our society as illegals press for growing ignorance and acceptance of their crimes? Who knows...

 

[pax]

... or higher penalties for already unenforceable laws.

Biker, today my argument is simply that the laws are unenforceable anyway.

Unless you're willing to carry your national ID card with all your personal data on it everywhere you go, and willing to be required to show it to any government official who asks for it at any time, and willing to put up with multiple government checkpoints on your way to work, and willing to put up with soviet-style internal visas ...

The cure is worse than the disease, but most of you anti-Mexican people are too blind to see it. Go ahead and keep building your brave new world. I'm sure we'll all find it a comfortable place to live, once our government officials finally figure out that we mean it when we tell them security is more important than freedom.

pax

 

[Manedwolf]

IHOP isn't Waffle House.

Waffle House is typically the mostly glass, bright yellow, ugly yellow places with black letters on the sign. Perhaps those big ugly light globes make people angry or something.

They do seem to attract a sort of oddness of patron that Hunter S. Thompson could have written about, too...

 

[crazed_ss]

Unless you're willing to carry your national ID card with all your personal data on it everywhere you go, and willing to be required to show it to any government official who asks for it at any time, and willing to put up with multiple government checkpoints on your way to work, and willing to put up with soviet-style internal visas ...

The cure is worse than the disease, but most of you anti-Mexican people are too blind to see it. Go ahead and keep building your brave new world. I'm sure we'll all find it a comfortable place to live, once our government officials finally figure out that we mean it when we tell them security is more important than freedom.

I've argued this same thing. People think we can somehow ethnically cleanse this country of illegal immigrants.. yet I point out that this will be absolutely impossible without trampling all over the rights of millions and millions of American citizens of Hispanic descent.. No one seems to care though.. as long as we get rid of the illegals.. screw all the Americans that would have their rights violated in the process.

 

[Biker]

Pax...

"Anti-Mexican people" has a kinda nasty ring to it. I'm not anti-Mexican, I'm anti-anyone who wishes to invade and colonize my country while breaking our laws. It just so happens that the vast majority of these people I describe are from Mexico.
National IDs aren't required, IMO. Border enforcement and cracking down on employers while denying gov. services would do much to alleviate the problem.
Finally, a "brave new world" is not my goal - the old America would do just fine, thank you very much.
Biker

 

[Henry Bowman]

With all due respect to pax and ss, we do not need a national ID or to patrol the streets to "round up illegals" in order to "enforce immigration laws." We can (a) secure the border (the crossing of which does dequire having valid ID at every border crossing in the world) and (B) enforce immigration laws (such as deportation of felons, etc.) when such persons "enter the system" for other reasons, such as arrest or conviction for other crimes, or when they are actually apprehended by BP.

And what Biker said.

 

[longeyes]

Biker, today my argument is simply that the laws are unenforceable anyway.

Unless you're willing to carry your national ID card with all your personal data on it everywhere you go, and willing to be required to show it to any government official who asks for it at any time, and willing to put up with multiple government checkpoints on your way to work, and willing to put up with soviet-style internal visas ...

The cure is worse than the disease, but most of you anti-Mexican people are too blind to see it. Go ahead and keep building your brave new world. I'm sure we'll all find it a comfortable place to live, once our government officials finally figure out that we mean it when we tell them security is more important than freedom.

You're right. Laws become unenforceable when people are afraid to deal with bullyism. We have bullies in Washington D.C. and we have bullies coming across our borders. The next step is up to the rest of us.

 

[444]

The PC crowd loves to make these all or nothing statements. All the while ignoring the fact that if we enforced the laws we have about hiring illegal aliens and stopped giving them governemnt sponsered freebes (that I am paying for), the problem wouldn't be worth discussing. This would include providing free education in a foreign language as well as printing of any government documents in a foreign language.
But it sounds more dramatic to talk about violating rights, national ID cards, and concentration camps.
They don't care about MY rights of course because that isn't PC.
You simply can't care about OUR country and OUR laws without one of the PC crowd playing the race card with terms such as "Anti-Mexican". And among the PC, the race card is the trump card. If you have been accused of being a racist, everything you say is automatically false and not worth listening to. There is also no defense against the race card. It is thrown early in an argument and often because using it requires no logical argument on their part. They win simply because they started the name calling.

 

[longeyes]

Slowly but surely the home-grown "Intifada" is taking shape.

What will triumph in the end, The Law, with all that implies, or Sheer Numbers? If it's Sheer Numbers we are looking at tribalism and atavism, and if we start rationalizing that hard reality we will have given away centuries of hard-won political liberty and the rule of reason. Out of cowardice.

If we want an America based on warlords ruling over ethnic fiefdoms, all we need to do is NOTHING. I guess the malls will still be open and American Idol will still be on tv. Relax, enjoy, take a siesta.

 

[Art Eatman]

I remember when one's proof of citizenship was a notarized copy of a birth certificate from the county courthouse. You had to have that in order to register to vote. Once you were on the voters' roll, renewal was by showing up to re-register.

Anybody who couldn't get a notarized copy of the birth certificate had to have a pretty good story. And back in those days, the notary seal was impressed into the photstat.

No national ID card needed. All ya gotta do is phone the county courthouse and see if the name is in the birth-record book.

Art

 

[Sindawe]

What Biker and Henry Bowman said.

Just for the record, I am not "anti-Mexican", I'm anti-illegal alien. I'd don't care if they are from Mexico, China, Ethiopia or Ireland. If they are here in violation of this nations immigration laws, send 'em back to their nation of origin.

 

[crazed_ss]

You simply can't care about OUR country and OUR laws without one of the PC crowd playing the race card with terms such as "Anti-Mexican". And among the PC, the race card is the trump card. If you have been accused of being a racist, everything you say is automatically false and not worth listening to. There is also no defense against the race card. It is thrown early in an argument and often because using it requires no logical argument on their part. They win simply because they started the name calling.

You can look in this thread right here and see why people might see why the race card is being used. Go back and see who pulled it out first. Notice posters making comments about Mexicans why they would even be at Waffle House because Waffle House doesnt serve Mexican food.

People say it's not about race and only about enforcing laws, but they take every oppurtunity to take shots and Mexicans and Mexican culture when threads like this come up.

 

[444]

I agree that the comment about Mexican food was over the top and could only be taken one way.
But that doesn't take anything away from the basic argument that there are a whole lot of Mexican nationals that are violating our country's laws. And, IMO the reason they are getting away with it is because "we" are letting them get away with it. We don't need more laws, we don't need national IDs. As Art pointed out, there are certain credentials required to access goverment services (voting, schools, DMV, etc.) These documents have been used for that purpose for many years.

I am not trying to be a jerk, or a racist. But this is a significant national problem that needs to be addressed: and it isn't being addressed. Many Americans are fed up with the whole thing and so am I.

FWIW, I am going to be shooting in about an hour with a guy that has a green card (not Mexican). I have nothing against his being here at all. BUT, he went through legal channels to be here. He is not the recipient of any government benefits. He speaks fluent English. And he works above board which results in his contributing to OUR country. Later on today, I am going to call another one of my good shooting buddies that is a naturalized American citizen. He served in the US Army. He doesn't insist on speaking his native tongue although he speaks English with a very heavy accent. He doesn't fly the flag of his native country. He is so proud to be an American that he mentions it almost every time I have seen him.

 

[Kaylee]

for what it's worth, the Asheville citizen-times reports this event as:

Is immigration debate fueling hostility against Hispanics?

No, no agenda in that title. Who was it doing the shooting again?