Deltaboy1984
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My Grandpa gave me all his guns except a 22 pistol and a Daisy 880 air rifle when he quit hunting.
100% When you ask a loved one for their keys or guns you are asking for their freedom. SLOOOOOOOOOOOOLY.
Indeed. Sometimes hard-fought freedom. Asking for car keys sped my grandmother’s demise. She gave up and just sat in her apartment. Died three weeks later.
Or it could have prolonged it, however briefly.
Down here, just south of a small town comprised entirely of retirement-aged folk, literally not a single week goes by without news of someone from there stomping on the gas instead of the clutch (in an automatic, too), putting their car into reverse instead of gear and backing into oncoming traffic, stopping and then driving through a busy red light like a stop sign, making a right turn from the left lane, straight up driving onto the freeway off ramp, or any number of other issues.
If it gets to the point you need to ask for someone's keys, you're not just prolonging their lives. You're also prolonging others'.
Yes it can, IF they even remember about it.The point of this was not to talk about others' driving abilities (didn't need the sermon, thanks). It was to address the idea that taking away someone's freedoms, as referenced in post 25, can be one of the biggest wounds you can inflict on them.
I think there is a huge difference between a person who is still sharp creating a document that says what should happen under what circumstances, vs relatives having to make a decision on their own when they see the person is too far gone.Do we take the keys away when we recognize that the individual can no longer handle driving?
Key indicator that gun handling won't be any better.
The real issue is using grace and sensitivity to arrange the loss of control thru offering supervised opportunities. None of us want to lose our freedom to travel or simply run an errand, a gun owner doesn't want to feel unsafe.
As pointed out in many other threads, what to do with a collection of firearms after they pass away might be handled at that point in life.
It WILL happen. We need to accept that fact and plan on it more than deny it and leave things undone.
Medical science now keeps people alive longer than in the past... but mostly keeps the physical parts working longer, doesn't prevent dementia.Not sure whether it is becoming more common but I sure have been exposed to a lot of people with dementia problems lately.
While it is more common for the husband to go first, it still doesn't happen 100% of the time.My wife owns all of the guns.
Medical science now keeps people alive longer than in the past... but mostly keeps the physical parts working longer, doesn't prevent dementia.
Well, when you start nearing 70 you become more accepting of certain physical limitations, instead of focusing on x hurts or whatever you are grateful to wake up in the morning -- and I think younger people should consciously try to do that.Boy, is that the truth. We work so hard to stave off death, we act like dying at the proper time is a bad thing.
I may have 40 years left. I sure hope not! I would rather drop dead at 70 with most of my parts working than make it to 100 and be a wreck. I hate having to use reading glasses and having occasional pains in my hands. I don't know how I'll stand it when old age brings the rest of its packages to my door.
I wouldn't be in my dad's shoes for anything. I insulate him from reality. Without me, he would be stored in the back room of a home.
When it's my time, I want to die and go some place better. If the bus for heaven pulled up right now, I would climb on board and never look back.
As for husbands dying first, cigarettes killed my mother 21 years ago. Terrible thing, but thank God she doesn't have to take care of my dad now.
You may want to be appointed his conservator by a Court. This can be done if a diminished capacity is shown even if he refuses. I would consult a probate attorney about the situation ASAP, because once he is mentally incapacitated or dies the free for all begins and family members you would never think of becoming vultures pop up like rats.My F-I-L refuses to discuss anything about dying. He will not write a will, has not communicated how he wants things divided up and is having memory issues so he is not remembering what he has said. One of my b-I-l is literally a thief so things are going to get ugly when the time comes. Actually the whole family situation is going to get really ugly and my wife and I know we will have to make the decisions.
I have been able to take care of some things without telling him that has worked out ok. The key thing is not to discuss it around him after it is done. I need to make a trip to visit them and figure out a way to get his guns. (Small collection...couple of inexpensive shotguns, rifle and 22 rifle). He is sadly getting easily taken advantage of by his so-called friendly neighbors and probably will not remember loaning them out. I will probably tell him they need cleaning or some work done and since I am the gunny in the family he will probably let me take them. I will keep them in the vault until either he wants them back or he dies.