Guns and garage sales

[45Badger]

and while we're at it, why don't you explain why pa keeps electing spector?

Because like all long-serving elected officials he brings home the bacon. I've lived in PA for 3 years. We have high taxes, mediocre schools, and CRAPPY roads (among the worst in nation!). This state (commonwealth) takes the cake in patronage, from our governor to our senators/representatives, state gov, and local morons.

It could be worse. Moving here was technically a transfer to Baltimore, so I'm pretty happy to be here vs. Maryland. Better gun laws and hunting than our friends to the south.

Gotta go, kids just found a dead fox oin the back yard...........

 

[NineseveN]

PA isn't that BAD really. Shall Issue CCW in most counties (Allghenney County boasts that they issue more CCW permits than anywhere else in the nation), no goofy firearms laws any worse than anywhere else or stupid anti-gun police forces.

Taxes do suck here, and the roads are horrible, but the people are generally nice. I've been to the PRK, no thanks, I'll take PA any day of the week.

 

[rhubarb]

I ain't that up to speed on what we have permission from the ATF to do with our own property, but I wanted to say Thank You, DontBurnMyFlag. I must say that it had not occurred to me to scrounge yard sales, flea markets and the like for guns. Excellent idea.

 

[Shootcraps]

I ain't that up to speed on what we have permission from the ATF to do with our own property

Lol. Remember, they don't make the rules. They just try to interpret them.

 

[TimboKhan]

I honestly don't know for certain if its legal or not here in Colorado, although as far as I know it is legal to do private transactions sans FFL at garage sales. Flea Markets would be a different thing entirely, however, as a flea market would obviously not be a private residence. My best friend bought a Red Label here by meeting the guy halfway (he lived in Denver, we lived the opposite direction) in the parking lot of a Cracker Barrel restaurant. I have to believe that it is legal, since up until the anti-gun media decided to go politcally correct, you could look for guns in the want ads. In some of the smaller papers, you still can, in fact.

 

[captain obvious]

Plenty of newspaper ads for guns here in Morgantown - the one type of rifle I've seen advertised that struck my eye on several different occasions were AR-15s (no attempt to disguise the "scary" nature of the gun, either).

 

[Father Knows Best]

NineseveN said:

But if people want to just do FTF between states, have fun. You need an FFL in the state of the seller, then you can bring the gun back to your state.

That's news to me. Are you sure that's correct? I always understood the law to be that interstate sales require an FFL in the state of the BUYER, not the seller. Whenever I sell a gun to someone out of state, I don't use an FFL on my end, but I insist on shipping only to an FFL on the buyer's end. The FFL on the buyer's end puts it on his book and transfers it to the buyer.

 

[NineseveN]

That's news to me. Are you sure that's correct? I always understood the law to be that interstate sales require an FFL in the state of the BUYER, not the seller. Whenever I sell a gun to someone out of state, I don't use an FFL on my end, but I insist on shipping only to an FFL on the buyer's end. The FFL on the buyer's end puts it on his book and transfers it to the buyer.

That is true, when you are shipping the firearm. We were talking about driving into another state and buying FTF there. Examples:

Joe drives from Ohio into Pennsylvania to buy a rifle from Dale. A Pennsylvania FFL must be used so that Joe can legally take posession of the rifle and bring it back home. Or Dale can drive to Ohio and use an Ohio FFL to transfer the rifle to Joe.

Otherwise, Dale could have the rifle shipped to an FFL of Joe's choosing in Ohio.

The firearm must be legal to own in the buyer's state.

On handguns:
An FFL MUST be used, and it must be in the buyer's home state. the seller cannot drive to the buyer's home state.

If the firearm is part of a will or estate (bequeathed, inherited etc...) it can be transferred without an FLL.



Federal law supercedes state laws on interstate commerce and there are no contiguous state clauses covered under federal law, they have all been done away with under federal law. <--that bit came from a post in another forum (think it was XDTalk), but it summed things up nicely.

 

[AirForceShooter]

I live in Florida ( Thank God)
We don't have weapons registration (Thank God)
So if I go visit my daughter in NC and hit a garage sale or a flea market and come across something wonderful, I buy it.
Who knows????

AFS

 

[Sleeping Dog]

Who knows????

Uh, you mean before, or after you posted it on the internet?



Ok, it's not breaking any law in FL or NC to do the garage sale thing, but it is a federal violation. Will you get caught? Probably not. Is it worth the fifteen or twenty bucks to go to a NC FFL and have the transfer done?

 

[NineseveN]

Uh, you mean before, or after you posted it on the internet?