Guns are available on google shopping, if you use the right browser.

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I am not freaking joking here.

If you go online with an older computer with IE5, or 6 or some other obsolete browser, you can get real gun and ammo results in google shopping.

I was using a old DSL (damn small Linux) live cd, and before I shut it down to go back to the regular OS, I decided to bring up the web browser it has (a rehashed old version of firefox, aka bonecho) to search google shopping for something. After one or two searches I decided to type in “stevens 200” to see if they had anything related to that particular rifle. (I thought) I knew that no actual rifles would come up on the search, just things that may be related to them. And to my wonderment, a full page of rifles were staring me in the face, with prices. I tried clicking on some of them and they was full working links to the retailers in question.

After coming to grips with that bombshell, I shut down DSL and went to the normal operating system on the computer and brought up a modern browser. I repeated my search as a reality check, and no rifles came up on the search.

I went to one of the old computers on the back room work bench. It has windows ME and IE6. Tried google shopping with that, and got results that had real guns and ammo, with current updated prices and working links.

It seems that the retailers are still feeding the gun data through to google with the rest of their products, but google is just filtering the offending items out.

The problem is they seem to have only implemented the filtering for the web pages generated for current browsers. No one took the time to load the filtering engine into the code that generates the web results for older, or non compliant browsers.

Or…. Someone intentionally “forgot” because they knew that the bosses will never know… Because they know the bosses will never be using an old browser to view their site.

I wonder how long it will last……?
 
That's an interesting find but it doesn't change the fact of Google's intention to limit our choices. They are currently working to filter out things like 'pirated movies/songs' when searching for said items and other restrictive measurements. I've switched to Bing (until I find something else I like better) and it does just fine for me for ALL my searching needs. I suggest everyone else do the same. If you support Google for your regular searches you are still supporting an anti-gun company. Just my 2 cents.
 
Bing is doing the same thing. Just read their rules of use. Funny thing is I've had no problems yet using Google for firearms related searches and I'm running IE8. I really don't like to Bing but tried it also without any problems. Maybe the two just haven't got things blocked yet.
 
Bing is doing the same thing. Just read their rules of use. Funny thing is I've had no problems yet using Google for firearms related searches and I'm running IE8. I really don't like to Bing but tried it also without any problems. Maybe the two just haven't got things blocked yet.

Bing does NOT filter gun results out. On modern browser I just tested both again; searched "Colt 1911" no results with Google, plenty with Bing.
 
Bing SHOPPING is filtering firearms results out. They announced it about a week and a half ago, won't be fully implemented for awhile.

The basic web search will remain unaffected.

Vendors won't be able to advertise prices for the comparison shopping tool.
 
Ryanxia said:
Bing does NOT filter gun results out. On modern browser I just tested both again; searched "Colt 1911" no results with Google, plenty with Bing.
I have no problems finding guns on google with my Macs or iPad. Check to see if you have the safe search turned off in the Google tools

Remember that Google nor Bing is filtering gun related search terms out of their web search (which is their primary search area). They are not allowing guns or related items in their SHOPPING sections. Google Web Search and Google Shopping are two completely different things.
 
I believe "Mr Transformer" is specifically referring to Google Shopping. It is a cloud app for shopping online. It filters out things like ".357 ammo" and returns no results. On my Linux box (older version) I can see ammo results. On my Windows 7 machine - they are filtered out - same settings on both.


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That's pretty interesting. Seems like a programmer somewhere along the line didn't feel like maintaining the legacy code base. Maybe I should go install a Windows 98 VM to use lol!
 
Honestly, the sites that returned looked like places I'd never put CC info in. I did a quick search for 9mm ammo and 5 sites showed up - none of which I'd ever heard of. Looked like a phishing site to me.


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Have had no problem finding gun stuff on Google. Do it constantly.


Just a darm minute here..............is this some kind of JOKE? :)
 
This is what you get when you do a regular search for "Mossberg 500"


This is what you get when you do a shopping search for "Mossberg 500"


Google is based in California. They are likely just trying to appease everyone without getting caught up in a legal battle between law enforcement, purchaser, and seller. They still show results for accessories. Objectively, I can understand their reasoning. As a THR member - I'm sure the majority of the new traffic that comes in to this site is from Google...
 
What is Google Shopping???

Is there a Link???

Google search works for guns.

Do a search in Google and then click the link "Shopping" at the top. It's on the same line as "Images", "Videos" and some other stuff.

Google Shopping was THE best way to find the best prices on guns and accessories (in the case of ammo, the best way was and still is http://www.gun-deals.com)
 
Another interesting twist: I have an AVG toolbar on IE that probably got downloaded when I put AVG on the computer. It has its own search box that is powered by google. The shopping tab works fine for guns, but of course, going straight to google doesn't show anything. I searched for AR 15 and it turned up pages of results in the shopping tab on IE with the AVG toolbar. No results at all from IE with the regular google search and no results with Firefox or Chrome on the same computer.
 
Bing SHOPPING is filtering firearms results out. They announced it about a week and a half ago, won't be fully implemented for awhile.

The basic web search will remain unaffected.

Vendors won't be able to advertise prices for the comparison shopping tool.
Yeah here is the link. But Bing Shopping still returns ads for guns. Bing is hurting hard trying to compete with Google. Seems like they would want the click $ from Grabagun, Bud's, etc.

http://advertising.microsoft.com/sm...dvertising/disallowed-content-guidelines#DC13
 
Google still returns gun results in the normal search, but refuses to show guns through their (very useful) shopping feature. In the past I've often used that feature to buy ammunition, and they'll no longer be allowing that type of search.

I'd suggest that everyone who is bothered by this policy change take a minute or two to write to Google (there's a link on the homepage that allows you to give them feedback). I typed the following reply to them, and it only took about a minute to do so:


"Please stop censoring your "shopping" searches to remove legal products that are routinely sold online. It is with much disappointment that I just learned of Google's recent decision to censor shopping searches to remove firearms/ammunition from the results. I've been using Google since Google first existed, but I guess I'll need to start looking for another search engine.

Playing politics by censoring your search results will only serve to needlessly hurt your business. There are over 300 million privately owned guns in this country, and a 2005 Gallop Poll showed that 42% of households own at least one gun. These numbers have certainly increased in the past 7 years, since nearly every recent poll and study has shown that gun ownership is at an all-time high.

Please take the time to consider reversing this poor business decision, and respect the fact that many of the people who use your product are involved in shooting sports."
 
I'll be damned. When I read this thread I was pretty certain that the OP was on crack. Then I tried it and it does indeed seem to be tied to the user agent string. I use tool in FireFox called User Agent Switcher and found that shopping results are available for certain user agent string and not others.

MSIE6 and MSIE7 both gave AR15 shopping results with prices. When I went to MSIE8, they all went away. Firefox 3.0.2 works, but 3.0.10 doesn't. Lynx 0.91 returns guns, but Lynx 2.8.5 doesn't.

That's certainly odd.
 
Jorg,

I just played around with this a bit myself. It was my understanding that ammunition was to be blocked under this policy shift, but I'm getting results for ammunition from the computer I'm currently using (which was brand new a month ago).

Firearms still return no results.

Is Google allowing ammunition through their searches now (via shopping)?



UPDATE: Okay, this must be a fluke. I played with it some more. I get results for "9mm ammo", but nothing for any of the other ammunition searches I tried to run.
 
Hmm... I'm running a PowerPC vintage iMac with Mac OS 10.4.11, and I get plenty of Google Shopping results for firearms when I use Safari 4.1.3 but none when I use Firefox 3.6.16.
 
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Dear Lord. When will people understand what is being talked about?
Some people are a bit slow, you just have to bear with it until they get the drift.

It seems to be tied to which browsers get served the compliant webpage, and the ones that get served the web page that is targeted for older non compliant browsers.

If your browser string is not in their lookup list for “compliant browsers” then you get served the web page that is designed for browsers that can’t handle the modern stuff.
 
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