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[MrShooter]

At least they got to shoot a gun. My CCWP class was a joke. 30 people crammed into a cold conference room at a Holiday Inn..paid $90 and listened to
-join NRA
-buy this shooters insurance
-look at this blue/red map

Then about 2 hours of 'info', disorganized. Got a book(whopee) and followed along filling in the blanks..it was 'essential', cuz ya got the certificate but my goodness, horrible.

That's why I waited and attended a course given by my local sheriffs department. It was super informative and stressed the implications of actually having to use your firearm.

 

[FFGColorado]

That's why I waited and attended a course given by my local sheriffs department. It was super informative and stressed the implications of actually having to use your firearm.

Agree..my son's, done at a LGS, was EXCELLENT..I just 'assumed'(yup, I know) that these were somehow standardized..I picked one closer and sooner..well, it got me my CCWP...

 

[Styx]

Antigun mentality is not limited to one party or another. I have had liberal, LGBT, and die hard conservative students attend my classes. It didn't matter to me. If they had an interest in firearms, I would teach regardless of politics. I do tend to argue in favor of gun rights in terms such as no magazine restrictions, "assault weapon bans", etc.

I've seen the same as you. I think most Conservitives and those in the gun community falsely believe that if you vote for Democrats you must be antigun. Just like there are some LGBT and pro choice people who vote Republican, there are gun owners who vote for Democrats.

People aren't one issue voters, and just because they vote one way politically, doesn't mean they necessarily support each and every issue the party supports.... This is why I hate the fact that the NRA and many in the firearm community married gun rights with the Republican party. Many Democrats who like firearms or who would be open to learning more don't feel welcomed into the firearm community because many in the community will take issue with their non gun related political views in which they base their votes on...

 

[wagonburner]

I think most Conservitives and those in the gun community falsely believe that if you vote for Democrats you must be antigun. .

Whether they consider themselves anti-gun or not, they put hard core anti-gun politicians in Congress and the White House. Hence they ARE ant-gun, just not quite smart enough to realize it.

 

[film495]

a lot of people may have a whole new world view in 2,5, 12, 36 months …

 

[Styx]

Whether they consider themselves anti-gun or not, they put hard core anti-gun politicians in Congress and the White House. Hence they ARE ant-gun, just not quite smart enough to realize it.

Zero logic behind that. None at all. Yes, they might put an antigun politician into office, but that doesn't make them hate guns or agree with every antigun law. I like most of us voted for Trump and will do so again even though we don't all agree with everything single thing he does or says..

Your attitude hurts more than it helps. If they have issues that are more important to them than firearms, then it makes zero sense for them to throw all the other things they stand for out the window just to vote for one single issue. Regardless how they vote, we should be welcoming all, regardless of political affiliation, in with open arms. Just because they're Democrats and vote for Democrats does not stop them from matching with us as well as voicing their opinions on gun rights to their representatives. That would make a lot more sense vs making enemies out of others who also share our interest in firearms.

 

[army_eod]

 

[wagonburner]

Zero logic behind that. None at all. Yes, they might put an antigun politician into office, but that doesn't make them hate guns or agree with every antigun law.

If you want zero logic, tell me again about people who "like" guns but vote for gun confiscation.

 

[Styx]

If you want zero logic, tell me again about people who "like" guns but vote for gun confiscation.

I already did, I'm sure you understood my response. They are voting basing their votes on other things that have nothing to do with firearms. It's not a hard concept to understand.

Baloney. How does it help to "accommodate" the idiots who vote for gun confiscation? They are the SOB's who's votes resulted in the draconian laws we see today in CA, NY, NJ etc. Now I need to "accommodate" them so they go ahead and vote those laws into my state? I don't think so bubba.

You don't have to do anything. You can continue to alienate and push away other gun owners because the issues that are important to them are not numbers in the same level of importance than what you care about. Call them idiots, tell them how stupid they are, so on and so, but it's not helping anything other than making you feel good about yourself. Like I said, whether they base their vote on pro-choice, entitlements LGBTQ rights, or even immigration, it is still a positive if more and more of them are firearm owners, if their family, friends, and significant other being exposed, if they are getting training, if they're carrying responsiblely, if they are talking to their representatives, etc....

 

[wagonburner]

I already did, I'm sure you understood my response. They are voting basing their votes on other things that have nothing to do with firearms. It's not a hard concept to understand.

I understand your dichotomy perfectly.

You don't have to do anything. You can continue to alienate and push away other gun owners because the issues that are important to them are not numbers in the same level of importance than what you care about. Call them idiots, tell them how stupid they are, so on and so, but it's not helping anything other than making you feel good about yourself. Like I said, whether they base their vote on pro-choice, entitlements LGBTQ rights, or even immigration, it is still a positive if more and more of them are firearm owners, if their family, friends, and significant other being exposed, if they are getting training, if they're carrying responsiblely, if they are talking to their representatives, etc....

The lady doth protest too much, methinks. I smell the stench of liberalism in the air.

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[Styx]

I understand your dichotomy perfectly.




The lady doth protest too much, methinks. I smell the stench of liberalism in the air.

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Very mature of you.

 

[Steve S.]

I think that it is good to see this kind of demand regardless of the mob’s orientation; good on the upside of a panic and also good on the downside of a panic. The demand shows that guns like toilet paper, are held in high regard as a precious basic commodity by our society. I see the skewed demand as being a good thing for the cause or at least a valuable awareness event; this spontaneous elevation to possess a firearm tells a story.

 

[FFGColorado]

If you want zero logic, tell me again about people who "like" guns but vote for gun confiscation.

Big sigh..please, tell me how these multi million guns(around 300 MILLION), without a national registry(that's illegal, BTW), will be 'confiscated'?? How much $, how many people?

 

[wagonburner]

Big sigh..please, tell me how these multi million guns(around 300 MILLION), without a national registry(that's illegal, BTW), will be 'confiscated'?? How much $, how many people?

I don’t have to tell you, I can show you. It’s called Australia, NZ, Mexico, Britain, etc, etc, etc, etc. Confiscation is the Democrats’ end game. The strategy is one of small incremental restrictions until we’re totally disarmed.

BTW sunshine, handguns are registered in places like NJ already ...

 

[FFGColorado]

I don’t have to tell you, I can show you. It’s called Australia, NZ, Mexico, Britain, etc, etc, etc, etc. Confiscation is the Democrats’ end game. The strategy is one of small incremental restrictions until we’re totally disarmed.

BTW sunshine, handguns are registered in places like NJ already ...

Which of those places have a part of their constitution that says the people can own a firearm?

BTW-'sunshine', answer my question..how does the Fed government confiscate 300 MILLION guns? And also, I really don't care about NJ, since I said a FEDERAL GUN REGISTRY..which is against the law.

There are at least four states and one district that have setup a registry for guns, the states are; California, Hawaii, Maryland, New York and the District of Columbia.

Which is 'like' NJ??

Anything said any ANY politician is political rhetoric...

 

[wagonburner]

Which of those places have a part of their constitution that says the people can own a firearm?

Mexico. Their constitution contains wording similar to the second amendment. Didn't stop confiscation there … they too had liberals voting for gun control.

..how does the Fed government confiscate 300 MILLION guns? And also, I really don't care about NJ, since I said a FEDERAL GUN REGISTRY..which is against the law.

The same way they did in Mexico.

Anything said any ANY politician is political rhetoric...

Indeed? So liberals believe when politicians say they want to ban guns, they don't really mean it? Interesting.

Again the odor of liberalism and naivety is filling my nostrils. Time to visit the ignore list again.

 

[FFGColorado]

Mexico. Their constitution contains wording similar to the second amendment. Didn't stop confiscation there … they too had idiot liberals voting for gun control.
The same way they did in Mexico.
Indeed? So the slow of wit believes when a politician wants to ban guns, they don't really mean it? Interesting.

Again the foul odor of liberalism and naivety is filling my nostrils. Time to visit the ignore list again.

How about a link as to when Mexico confiscated all the guns there?

From 2009 to 2014, more than 73,000 guns that were seized in Mexico were traced to the U.S., according to a new update on the effort to fight weapons trafficking along the U.S.-Mexico border.

"Most of the firearms seized in Mexico that were traced and found to be of U.S. origin from 2009 to 2014 came from U.S. Southwest border states," the GAO report says. "While guns seized in Mexico of U.S. origin were traced to all of the 50 states, most came from Texas, California, and Arizona."

Not quite the same as confiscating guns obtained legally.

So the slow of wit believes when a politician wants to ban guns, they don't really mean it?

Slow of wit? Cute-maybe before it's deleted. Trump-
-21 yo age limit
-Red Flag Laws
-Universal Background Checks

Go ahead and bury and ignore..BUT tell me again, how do the FEDS confiscate 300 million guns? Didn't think you had any answer..Maybe a little civics 101 as to how the Fed government actually works..ya know, congress, POTUS, SCOTUS and such?

 

[Old Dog]

I find someone's user-name entirely appropriate. Lends an ironic twist to his patronizing and demeaning remarks to other posters.

Varus did order his legions' wagons burned, but he still lost.