Who Bought All Those ’08 Election Guns?

[Accident]

I over paid on some panic buys. 1st timer, except for a Marlin .22lr. Now I'm a hooked. Went whitewing hunting last year for the 1st time in 40 years. Had a blast. Wife bought me a shotgun for this year. Lovin it. Also been going to local skeet events. Loads of fun. Helps me bond with my customers too. One more thing we have in common besides just eating. My wife isn't defenseless any more either. Makes it nicer when I have to be outta town.

Love this site too. Been lurking for years.

!A

 

[carbuncle]

Obama isn't gun-neutral, he just can't go forward with overt gun control until he gets re-elected. I, personally, think that a concerted campaign for gun control legislation will be in the wings for February 2013 if we don't get him out of office and I think a lot of people feel the same way. Why not just hang on to those guns picked up in the election panic? I know 2008 and subsequent events changed my opinion about buying standard capacity mags: now I will buy a handful of them for any gun that takes above 10 rounds that I know I'm likely to buy in the future: I started with a few for the 4006, next is the Beretta 92 and the Glock models I have my eye on.

 

[BoilerUP]

What Obama may or may not want with regards to gun control doesn't matter a hill of beans if Republicans control one or both branches of Congress and refuse to pass it.

 

[HGUNHNTR]

I coined the term "banic" IIRC.

I purchased guns and ammo in August, anyone could see the writing on the wall at that point. Made a few bucks.

 

[Bobson]

The paranoia is going stronger than ever.

Calling it paranoia suggests that it isn't justified.

Obama isn't gun-neutral, he just can't go forward with overt gun control until he gets re-elected.

This.

Deciding whether or not a president has radical views during his first term is a fool's errand. Obama will be re-elected. Despite everything he's done for this country (lol get it?) he still has plenty of fans, so he'll stick around. A president's first term is when they do what's expected, generally. In round two, the personal agenda comes out.

 

[22-rimfire]

I used to play that game (buying stuff that I thought I could sell off at a profit for fun.), but after many guns I look at the numbers and it was just about fun.

I still have ammo that I bought then. Did I gain anything? Perhaps.

 

[Neverwinter]

Calling it paranoia suggests that it isn't justified.

Then it's good that he chose the appropriate word.

Deciding whether or not a president has radical views during his first term is a fool's errand. Obama will be re-elected. Despite everything he's done for this country (lol get it?) he still has plenty of fans, so he'll stick around. A president's first term is when they do what's expected, generally. In round two, the personal agenda comes out.

All of the current events regarding legislation have provided ample proof for why this scenario is laughable at best. The opposition that he has to work against is willing to torpedo legislation that they proposed first, just so that he can't get credit for doing anything good for the country. What makes you think that the situation for passing gun restriction legislation detrimental to the country will be any more successful?

 

[Bobson]

The opposition that he has to work against is willing to torpedo legislation that they proposed first, just so that he can't get credit for doing anything good for the country.

That's funny. I could have sworn some sort of 900 page legislation regarding medical insurance was passed. Hmmm.

Oh, I got it now. You said he can't get credit for doing anything good for the country. Well I guess you're right about that. Then again, what good thing has he tried doing?

What makes you think that the situation for passing gun restriction legislation detrimental to the country will be any more successful?

Irrelevant. I'm not a gambling man, especially when my liberties are at stake.

 

[Neverwinter]

That's funny. I could have sworn some sort of 900 page legislation regarding medical insurance was passed. Hmmm.

That was exactly what I was referring to as an example of legislation that the opposition was willing to torpedo despite having proposed it first themselves in the 90's.

It isn't gambling to look at past conditions and expect those same conditions to somehow produce a different result.

 

[Bobson]

I agree, but looking at people and treating them like they're conditions may be a fatal error. People are always changing, and we're prone to unexpected behavior. It's not like we're calculating the setting Sun here.

For example, I know my wife on the most intimate and personal level, and she still makes decisions that surprise me every single day. Obama's definitely going to be doing things I don't expect. Which is why I said I'm not a gambling man.

 

[Neverwinter]

We're talking about the legislation of Congress, which consists of many people. What you're expecting is multiple wives making uncharacteristic decisions that all coincide to changing something that they know their husbands don't want.

 

[Bobson]

You're assuming all those wives are married to one husband, or at least multiple husbands with extremely similar minds. That isn't the case. Don't forget that all those wives each have their own husband. Some of those husbands like being able to protect themselves with guns, while others think guns go around raping and murdering people at night, and all we need to do to protect ourselves is melt them down and build the cages we're sure to live in as soon as they're gone. And each husband is doing his best to convince the women to see things his way. But the marriage counselor at the top oversees the whole thing. Unfortunately, she has a husband of her own.

Edit:

In other words, there are a lot of people who would be happy to see guns be gone forever. Don't assume that just because you and I want them here, that everyone does. And don't assume we're the majority. Did you vote for Obama? Because I know I didn't. And yet there he sits, in a chair far more comfortable than mine.

 

[Neverwinter]

You're assuming all those wives are married to one husband, or at least multiple husbands with extremely similar minds. That isn't the case. Don't forget that all those wives each have their own husband. Some of those husbands like being able to protect themselves with guns, while others think guns go around raping and murdering people at night, and all we need to do to protect ourselves is melt them down and build the cages we're sure to live in as soon as they're gone. And each husband is doing his best to convince the women to see things his way. But the marriage counselor at the top oversees the whole thing. Unfortunately, she has a husband of her own.

How is this supposed to explain the rationality of the premise that depends on a series of numerous improbable events occurring? Why are we expecting the positions of Congress to significantly deviate from their current position? The current obstructionists will be joined by the others who understand why further gun restrictions are detrimental. The remainder isn't going to have any more luck. A lot of people voted against gun restrictions in the 90's after the AWB passed.

 

[Bobson]

So you're saying the status quo will forever remain? More than a dangerous assumption, that's just plain foolhardy. *Monocle*

Also why are you logging off after every post?

 

[Neverwinter]

An object at rest will stay at rest unless acted upon by an outside force. Those posts were simply requests to provide examples of outside forces which would be sufficient to cause the legislative changes which you are predicting.

Also why are you logging off after every post?

The forum software provides a selection in the User Options to not show your online status. The same might also happen for smartphone users.

 

[Baba Louie]

I was gonna buy 700 - 800 guns to help a few friends south of me, but was told to wait by a very well informed friend who said I'd be "good to go" if I waited until after the election.

He was right!!!!

I had expected a hard time from the FFLs but they were all like, "sure no problem Baba, look over here Baba, now look over there, smile Baba, nice ID, how many AKs and .50s are you buying today Baba, 12? Each? good. cash? even better. see you tomorrow Baba Louie."

Sorry. Was daydreaming there a minute.

I tried to buy ammo only once during the election crapola, realized the futility of it and waste of my moola, bought .22lr ammo when I could and shot a lot less. Did not buy any arms. Haven't for years. Have all I want. Need ammo.

I hope my above topical ironic sarcasm doesn't put anyone off too much. But it is ironic that both were occuring around the same time... a frenzy within a frenzy with an ammo frenzy to boot. Did we learn anything? Buy ammo early. Already own the guns you need. Have a spare or two you can unload at a profit should the same set of events occur.

Fast and Furious. A perfect name

 

[mortablunt]

I was 15 at the time, so I did not buy a O-B 08 panic gun. At the time, I was just beginning to move out of the neutral zone and into the pro gun side. Now as for gun legislation he would like to pass, a new Assault Weapons Ban, a law mandating that all sellers at gun shows are FFL dealers, a magazine capacity ban, and a 50 caliber ban are things I can think of. And now I think that he's done some pretty pro-gun things as president. Let's see... he has made it legal to carry in national parks, and he has made it legal to put guns into the checked baggage aboard Amtrak Trains.

 

[MD_Willington]

According to an acquaintance that helped overturn the WA State AFL rulings, plenty of Barrys supporters cleaned them out of AR rifles, magazines and ammo... they came in with the big'ol O on their t-shirts...

 

[animator]

I bought a Stag Arms 16" M4gery at the height of the election. Paid 650 for it... knew a dealer who wasn't gouging everyone. Had to wait around 4 or 5 months for it.. but it showed up.


It's still in the safe, and won't be going anywhere. But then again, I wasn't exactly a "new to owning guns" buyer.

 

[BlackMagic308]

What I noticed was a real good mix, but there did seem to be an awful lot of new gun buyers. There was also a record number of applications for concealed handgun permits, too.

I'll admit, I did buy a gun that week myself. It wasn't my first, by a long shot, but I did buy one. However, I got a Remington 700 bolt action. I considered it a rescue. I had images in my head of someone coming in in an Obama panic and buying it, then taking it home and painting it tan with ferns all over it, which is what happened to the rifle's shelf buddy.

 

[Obsidian]

I think some of it was because of Obama and the Democrat majority. Many posters here said that it is not the POTUS that does things, its the Senate and House. Who held those super majorities again in 08?

Oh No one is going to pass any serious anti gun legislation? Not ever again after 94? I seem to recall no one thinking anyone would ever ban anything back then either, but my memory could be mistaken.

I think it was the combination of fear of a deteriorating financial situation, the goons that were in congress, the goons that were running and everything else. the Fast and Furious debacle has shown that the entity that is supposed to be in charge of keeping guns out of criminal's hands were feeding them all along. Things like this, no matter if they can be tied to the POTUS or not, show people that there is still a lot of uncertainty out there. We don't even apparently have to worry about politicians, GVT agencies can do what they want. Oh, and czars too. And emergency appointments.

Things are not being released because of two things. The first is well this uncertainty across the board for everyone I just mentioned. The second reason is the combination of newer buyers and the glut of new guns on the market, particularly in the Semi Auto Market. When you can get an entry level AR for under 700 bucks brand new, someone is not gonna have a lot of success selling that AR they bought for 1000 bucks two years ago, used for 700 bucks. They are holding till it is more favorable to sell in a lot of situations.

Another line of reasoning is what some folks have again said. That firearm so long as it does not get wet is not gonna rot away or not be there in ten or 15 years if needed or wanted.

Also, again as others have chimed in there is a lot of new shooters in the arena these days. However everyone seems to have stockpiled their ammunition as it is generally available again.

I'm not seeing a lot of deals out there on firearms, not like I used to in years before 08. Tells me everyone is keeping on to their items. I don't expect a huge sell off in 12 either way it lands either. There will be a few perhaps but not a large cash out if the Retardagains win versus the Demoncats.

 

[stevelyn]

I had already planned to buy the ones I have. The election only forced my hand in buying them early and all at once.

 

[husbandofaromanian]

No one is talking about the possible riots that may erupt if BHO loses reelection. I run a retail store in a metropolitin city. A huge percentage of my customers were wearing clothing with his picture on it. It scared me that this guy coult be the next dictator.

It there are "after election" riots, it could become impossible to purchase firearms or ammunition until the government regains control.

 

[Jaybird78]

I bought my first AR in '09. Lower in Feb and upper in April. However I have owned guns for about 13yrs prior.

I've since bought another AR and working on a third.


NEED MORE AMMO

 

[chad523]

If we didn't know any better, BATFE would be claiming every single one of those guns went straight to Mexico...