Guns hidden throughout the home

[Kleanbore]

No thank you

Willfully remaining ignorant of ways to avoid criminal charges and conviction, and/or civil liability , is unwise.

It is also a way to shorten you stay on THR.

 

[Kleanbore]

think most people dont have a realistic view and/or understanding of things, and really havent thought things out, if at all.

There seems to be a lot of that going around.

I also think a lot of decisions seem to made on things people see on TV and in the movies and stories theyve heard.

That would explain a lot.

 

[Texron]

Yes. In the bedroom, the living room, the bathroom, the kitchen, and the garage.

 

[HB]

I dont see any reason to arm burglars.

It would really suck to come home to a guy in my house armed with one of my “hidden” guns.

Also loaded guns going off during a house fire would be bad. Your house is much more likely to catch on fire than be attacked while you are home.

 

[whughett]

Major source of guns used by criminals is theft.

I do not have unsecured guns in rooms I’m not in.

So tell me where the unsecured ones are, not in the wood ahead one assumes. And unless you got some high tech space age Fort Knox type safe they are only as secure as the thief has time with a battery powered right angle grinder to defeat. So now we are thinking most of the illegal guns on the street comes from the casual act of ransacking a home looking for drug money, which I believe are a very large portion of the

For what it is worth, the alarm companies have a backup system if you lose your power, internet or both. It lasts for 24+ hours. So, if your internet is down the system still operates as it should.

My system doesn’t rely on a computer connection. The sensors are wireless the base station cellular. The base station has its own power source good for eight hours or so. It also monitors the sensors and alerts of low battery.

 

[Elkins45]

I have a sign by the door entering from the garage that says there is nothing in this house worth dying for. Enough said

Otherwise referred to as “prosecution exhibit #4”

If this is really true I would respectfully suggest you rethink it. In the unfortunate event you ever have to shoot someone in your home an overzealous prosecutor could really make hay with a sign like this.

 

[JFrank]

Willfully remaining ignorant of ways to avoid criminal charges and conviction, and/or civil liability , is unwise.

It is also a way to shorten you stay on THR.

Internet Lawyer

 

[Electricmo]

Bad idea, I think. First, no sign, especially a dorky one, is going to discourage a determined burglar from breaking into your home when you're obviously away. And, secondly, all the sign does is informing the burglar that there's likely guns in the house to steal.
My sign reads: "Warning. Due to the price increase for ammo, do not expect a warning shot." Now that's a sign that will keep the riffraff at bay.

. My sign is in the garage so if it gets seen by a burglar he has already most likely broke in.
Where is your sign located?
We can both tell our burglars here's your sign!
As for exhibit#4. They were already in my house, I tried to warn them. It's the same thing as Danger Rapids ahead.

 

[George P]

No I have little ones in the house... I guess if I get in a situation hopefully they will give me time to open my safe. Used to though before the kids.

I don't have any kids at all any longer in the house, but I still won't put guns around the house. If my kids come to visit and bring grandkids, I do not want to have an unsecured gun that I may have missed to get secured. I also do not want loaded guns around in case something happens to me or my wife and the heirs than have to go find things.
If you are THAT concerned about needing a gun inside your home, then it needs to be ON your person, not hidden in a sofa or bookcase or closet down the hall.

 

[Skgreen]

I read about a 1400 lb. safe that 'walked away' one day. (Securing a safe is a whole nuther subject)

Never underestimate a kids desire to explore,,, I found Dad's 1911 'stashed' on top of our drop ceiling. All the rifles/shotguns, ammo were 'inspected' by yours truly. I even took the hand-grenade I found to show-and-tell in the 2nd grade.

Turns out it was an inert smoke grenade, and 'all that happened' was my folks received a call from the school later that day. Can you imagine how that same scenario would play out TODAY!!??!!

 

[BCC1]

So tell me where the unsecured ones are, not in the wood ahead one assumes. And unless you got some high tech space age Fort Knox type safe they are only as secure as the thief has time with a battery powered right angle grinder to defeat. So now we are thinking most of the illegal guns on the street comes from the casual act of ransacking a home looking for drug money, which I believe are a very large portion of the

I’m not sure I understand your reply to my post.

The vast majority of guns stolen from consumers come from cars, nightstands, closets and other unsecured areas within the home. Not from safes.

I’m an old fart and live in a community that has closed gates at night. I keep most of my guns in a Drake Safe, which is a high quality, American made safe. It’s bolted to the floor in my motion sensor equipped garage.

I keep a couple of guns handy. They are in a Wi-Fi enabled and alarmed, biometric and keypad Vaultek security container, that is bolted inside the house.

I have a console safe in my vehicle, which I use when going into a facility that restricts weapons. No weapons stay in there over night.

That’s where my weapons are, if they are not under my direct control.

Properly secured weapons reduce the flow of guns used by criminals.

 

[doubleh]

If you tell someone they really aren't hidden anymore. That's all I'm saying on the subject.

 

[Rexster]

Well, “throughout the home?” No.

Carefully staged in more than one place? Hmm, well, something like that.

My user name has been “outed” enough times, to not want to say more.

 

[Tallball]

The LEO I work with had this to say:

The ideal scenario for a burglar is no one at home. They will typically knock on the door first. They want money, drugs, jewelry, and guns. They will typically focus on the master bedroom. They want to be in and out in 1-2 minutes.

The home invasion scenario is rare. It normally involves a "drug house" or some other place where there is known to be a lot of money or drugs.

This is Texas. Most people own a firearm. If you decide to break into people's homes when they are inside, your chosen career will be a short one

 

[George P]

My safe is spec'd at just over 900 lbs. Last month I got it up on furniture dollies and moved it to a new location by myself. It wasn't easy, and I had someone help me get it off the dollies and slid into it's new spot, but I was amazed how much I could accomplish by myself. Of course I wasn't able to budge it until I removed the nuts that had it bolted into concrete. 10 minutes of time and a few bucks is all it takes to make a safe secure.

Most thieves will just take a grinder and go through the side or hit a corner with a sledge and crack the frame and welds.

 

[JFrank]

Montana ( edit) laws are different than most states, sounds like Texas is a great place to live also.
We always have tea and cookies ready for late night company

 

[BCC1]

Most thieves will just take a grinder and go through the side or hit a corner with a sledge and crack the frame and welds.

Could you post a link supporting your post? Thanks. I would have guessed most thieves, wouldn’t even target a safe bolted to the floor.

 

[SwampWolf]

Where is your sign located?

I was kidding; ergo the winking smilie.

 

[JFrank]

Could you post a link supporting your post? Thanks. I would have guessed most thieves, wouldn’t even target a safe bolted to the floor.

That’s actually quite easy to get a safe rocking back and forth until gravity takes hold. From there a simple Dewalt cutting wheel to the exposed safe rear wall.
Bolt it to the floor as well as the wall will slow down your guests.

 

[BCC1]

That’s actually quite easy to get a safe rocking back and forth until gravity takes hold. From there a simple Dewalt cutting wheel to the exposed safe rear wall.
Bolt it to the floor as well as the wall will slow down your guests.

Thanks. I live in a good neighborhood, have a security system (when I remember to turn it on), I’ll look at bolting the back of my safe to the wall, too.

I really don’t think safes are the source of most stolen guns, though. Especially with so many folks leaving them unsecured.

Most thieves will just take a grinder and go through the side or hit a corner with a sledge and crack the frame and welds.

I’ve never seen any report stating ‘ most thieves will just take a grinder......’ and if there is one, I’d like to check it out.

 

[JFrank]

They’ll use your tools from your garage.
The safe guy told me that btw....

 

[bdickens]

I think most people dont have a realistic view and/or understanding of things, and really havent thought things out, if at all.

I also think a lot of decisions seem to made on things people see on TV and in the movies and stories theyve heard.

If you dont have a gun (or weapon) on you, you dont have it, period. Youre either armed or you arent, its just
that simple. And it amazes me people dont understand that.

If someone kicks in your door, and has a gun, and yours is 5 feet away (and not to mention, your brain has only just started to process whats going on) who do you suppose has the upper hand?

Even if you were wearing the gun, they still have the upper hand. But at least you do have the gun and dont have to go looking for it, besides everything else thats going on.

As hangfire mentioned, go look around at clips of real life things actually happening in real time, and see how things "actually" go down. Often times, even when people see it coming, they are still in denial and dont react as they should, or say/think they would.

Then theres the other elephant in the room, your actual skills and competency. All this is pretty much meaningless if you arent used to shooting in a manner thats going to be required here.

This should be a sticky!

 

[Speedo66]

I keep one on my person at all times. Only time it's not in my pocket is when showering and sleeping. Have not so little ones running around 10&11 year old. I do keep a can of bear spray on top of fridge. Kids know how to use it just in case.

What, no shower or pajama holsters? lol

 

[WheelGunMan]

Most thieves will just take a grinder and go through the side or hit a corner with a sledge and crack the frame and welds.

Do most thieves carry a grinder and sledge hammer around with them? My guess is most thieves are opportunists that smash, grab and go. A secure gun safe involves an investment of time to open...ai think they would rather take the quick and easy stuff.

 

[George P]

Do most thieves carry a grinder and sledge hammer around with them? My guess is most thieves are opportunists that smash, grab and go. A secure gun safe involves an investment of time to open...ai think they would rather take the quick and easy stuff.

Would depend on whether or not you have the tools in your garage like a lot of us do, and whether or not your guns were their first priority