Guns on campus....

[wannabeagunsmith]

this is my first post, go easy on me.... In a short time, I will be heading off to college and I have a question. Which colleges would I be allowed to conceal carry on? I know Utah's great policies, but how about everywhere else? Private colleges would be appreciated as well. And if there are any that I could OC on, let me know as well. Thanks !

 

[Madcap_Magician]

There are a couple of colleges in Colorado, but those and the Utah public schools are the only ones.

 

[Danb1215]

http://opencarry.org/college.html

Start there, if the state allows, it's a matter of individual school policy.

 

[Bobson]

Interesting thread. AZ is an open-carry state, but I don't know of a single college or university, public or private, that allows firearms on campus by anyone except sworn LEOs.

 

[wannabeagunsmith]

Darn....thanks though. :/ I was hoping for there to be more than that.

 

[Warp]

Legally: Depends on the state.

According to university policey: Virtually zero.

I am from Indiana. Perfectly legal there. Residents get shall issue permits for like $35, minimum age is 18, and you can drink/go to bars while carrying. Oh, and IN ranks in the top 3 in terms of % of the population licensed to carry.

 

[Standing Wolf]

I am from Indiana. Perfectly legal there. Residents get shall issue permits for like $35, minimum age is 18, and you can drink/go to bars while carrying. Oh, and IN ranks in the top 3 in terms of % of the population licensed to carry.

More power to you, Indianians!

 

[JellyJar]

Here in Alabama there are no state laws that prohibit guns on any College or University but all, to my knowledge, don't like it and will expel any student who carries on campus.

Except, years ago when I attended University one of my classmates was a police officer and they didn't complain about him.

 

[TheMerryMortician]

I hate to sound like a guidance counsellor on this one, but I would tell you to go with the school that best fits your academic needs and financial constraints. Even if the school allows for concealed carry, there are other obstacles you may face, such a residency requirements for a CWP or reciprocity issues with your current state of issue. If you will be living on campus, you may find it difficult to secure your weapon while living in the dormitory.

I was fortunate enough to have attended college in SC, which allows for folks with a CPW to secure their weapon in their vehicle while on campus. I would attend class after securing my weapon in my glove box, then rearm when I left to go home. I lived off campus with family, so securing my gun while I "really enjoyed" my college years was not a problem.

Either way, worry about the school first, and keep us posted on where you end up. Good luck on the up and coming school year!

 

[wannabeagunsmith]

Well, I want to go to college without ending up dead, so that is why I asked. Of course, I wont base my choice entirely on the school policies, but it will be a main guiding point. THanks for the replies, everyone!

 

[Dr_B]

Colleges are full of people who are afraid of guns. Forget about their policies. Just go to college. Learn everything you can. Get out and get a job that allows you some freedom to work in an environment that suits you. Who knows, maybe you'll start a business where you can write the policy and allow concealed carry.

 

[Maple_City_Woodsman]

More power to you, Indianians!

Yes, we Hoosiers have a lot of freedoms...

But Freedom to carry on campus is NOT one of them! I am not aware of any universities that doesn't have a 'zero tolerance' policy for firearms possession for their students. Now, the act of carry on campus is in no way illegal (they cant charge you with anything), but that doesn't mean they cant expel you in a heartbeat for breaking their security policies.

Any random stranger with a carry permit can walk onto the campus of any public university in Indiana armed, and be totally safe and legal ... ANY student, even those with a carry permit, will be immediately expelled with no questions asked, and no appeal.

I have been told by IU security personnel that I would be expelled, if I was even seen to have a firearm - even if I was removing the gun from my person, and locking it up in my car. Zero tolerance, period.

Yes, there has been a recent court ruling, in which businesses have been barred from regulating what employees can keep in their cars, but that law is not worded to include schools, nor is a university the same as a Borders / Autozone. If you get caught, that argument will not get you anywhere - you will still be expelled.

I'm not sure I would trust the bulk of my fellow students anyway - 1/2 of them are oblivious clods, and the other 1/2 are totally indoctrinated Liberals. (Though oddly enough the only other shooter I know on campus is a VERY liberal young female, who shoots rimfire bulls-eye competitively, and keeps a S&W .357 magnum for a home defense gun.)

 

[TheHighRoadDude]

Funny I stumbled across this. I recently gave a speech about this in one of my classes this semester...Boy did I get some funny looks

Its funny what people who are from the city think about firearms, the media has portrayed them with gangbangers and thugs. I really got the feeling that I was the only firearm supporter in the room. But, what a better place to educate people who might not fully understand...

I'd say if even one person in my class had a clearer outlook on firearms after my speech that it was well worth it. My liberal teacher must not have been to appalled because I got a good grade on it. I was trying to explain why stopping lawfully abiding citizens, with the proper permits from concealed carrying on campus is wrong, because that sticker on the door that says no guns will keep the lawful people out. but I HIGHLY doubt someone looking to do harm will go, "Oh jeez, I didn't see the sticker on the door that says no guns. Guess I can't go in..."

 

[whalerman]

This is why a nutcase, as in the West Virginia crime, can walk onto any campus and be confident that he can pretty much do whatever he wants for a long long time as no one will be able to stop him. That's the way the academics want it. They want a peaceful atmosphere where criminals are not threatened. They've gotten their wish. Campuses are safe for criminals.

 

[mortablunt]

Sorry, protoerudite comrade, but you are straight outta luck. College is one of the craziest places when it comes to what is and isn't okay. For example, at my college, about 25% of the people here smoke weed, so as you can imagine, I'd be thinking that security would be rather eager to crack down on this. So I'm living right next to a place where I hear people talking about getting stuff, coming and going from this room at all hours, with a huge stench coming out of the place and people leaving either buzzed or with stuff, I went to security with my very well founded suspicions that there were people in there stashing and selling stuff. Their response was to say that I needed to give them better evidence, "probable cause", to have seen something. However, when there was a rumor that someone might have had a gun (not me) and they therefore proceeded to barge in there and do an absolute sweep of the room, finding nothing. Oh, and on my first night here, I informed my dorm advisor that I was very uncomfortable with having roommates who have liquor and smoke weed. I promptly got the "chillax man" speech and was told to talk it out and tolerate it.

Guns in college are prohibited by Maryland statute, but places in Pennsylvania let you have guns, which are approved, locked in a vault, which you can take out for hunting.

I swear, it's amazing how federal felonies like drug use, possession, trafficking, purchasing, selling, and manufacturing are treated as being completely okay, but possibly having a firearm, a constitutional right, is treated like the greatest of all evils.

 

[Warp]

Yes, we Hoosiers have a lot of freedoms...

But Freedom to carry on campus is NOT one of them!I am not aware of any universities that doesn't have a 'zero tolerance' policy for firearms possession for their students. Now, the act of carry on campus is in no way illegal (they cant charge you with anything), but that doesn't mean they cant expel you in a heartbeat for breaking their security policies.

Any random stranger with a carry permit can walk onto the campus of any public university in Indiana armed, and be totally safe and legal ... ANY student, even those with a carry permit, will be immediately expelled with no questions asked, and no appeal.

I have been told by IU security personnel that I would be expelled, if I was even seen to have a firearm - even if I was removing the gun from my person, and locking it up in my car. Zero tolerance, period.

Yes, there has been a recent court ruling, in which businesses have been barred from regulating what employees can keep in their cars, but that law is not worded to include schools, nor is a university the same as a Borders / Autozone. If you get caught, that argument will not get you anywhere - you will still be expelled.

I'm not sure I would trust the bulk of my fellow students anyway - 1/2 of them are oblivious clods, and the other 1/2 are totally indoctrinated Liberals. (Though oddly enough the only other shooter I know on campus is a VERY liberal young female, who shoots rimfire bulls-eye competitively, and keeps a S&W .357 magnum for a home defense gun.)

It is legal. That's the point.

I have carried on campus in Indiana on an everyday basis for multiple years across two locations, one of which was Purdue in West Lafayette. I know others who occasionally did the same. One of our faculty advisers for a club was also licensed and knew we were licensed and I am 99.9% sure knew I carried. It was never an issue.

 

[GEM]

The odds of ending up dead on campus are much smaller than having a crappy job and economic future. Pay any attention to the economy?

So get the BEST education you can manage. Use common sense and some training in non firearms related SD if you can. You will probably survive.

Carry should not be a major consideration.

You can't carry when you work at McDonalds anyway. The armed barista is not common. Do you want 9mm or 45 ACP with your mocha macchiato soy latte with extra foam?

 

[Warp]

The odds of ending up dead on campus are much smaller than having a crappy job and economic future. Pay any attention to the economy?

So get the BEST education you can manage. Use common sense and some training in non firearms related SD if you can. You will probably survive.

Carry should not be a major consideration.

You can't carry when you work at McDonalds anyway. The armed barista is not common. Do you want 9mm or 45 ACP with your mocha macchiato soy latte with extra foam?

Laws and policies are two entirely different things.

 

[mortablunt]

Laws and policies are two entirely different things.

There is also a difference between real and official policies.

It is against Federal law to have anything to do with Marijuana.
It is against college policy to have anything to do with Marijuana.
It is not treated as a bad thing to be involved with Marijuana.

 

[Warp]

You must live somewhere pretty hippie/liberal. Around here it is treated as a bad thing when a college student is involved with marijuana. As in they get arrested.

Though I cannot figure out why you are already backing way from the topic and changing it to something else.

 

[X-Rap]

My son is guarded by combat vets with M9's and M4's and who knows what other surveillance measures. It's not a perfect situation but it is probably one of the more secure campuses in the country. I wish I could carry there and it makes for some hassle to get my guns dropped off before I pass the gate when I visit but I'm lucky to have people within a few minutes drive where I can store my stuff. If possession is not an option for you take a good look at campus security and keep a good sharp knife.

 

[Warp]

My son is guarded by combat vets with M9's and M4's and who knows what other surveillance measures.

Are they loaded?

 

[X-Rap]

I've not checked but they all have mags inserted and spares in the vests.

 

[Warp]

Spares would indicate, to me, that they are probably loaded.

 

[wannabeagunsmith]

Ok, I may need to make something clear: I came here to ask what colleges I can attend that give me the freedom to carry, not your opinions on what I should do with my college future. Second, for those of you who actually answered the question, I am very grateful. Thank you.