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Guns WILL be banned, and banned soon. MY REPLY TO 1ST THREAD

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  1. Rachen

    Rachen member

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    There is only one way to deal with this kind of predatory brainwashing in the schools.
    And the good news is that we have superior technology on our side.
    We have Internet and Email alerts.

    It is a good thing we addressed the problem of brainwashing, because we can effectively build a defense against it. Lets contact the NRA first, and try to set up a national Internet network of gun owners, activists, and conservatives. That way, we CAN know from all these parents just what the hell these kids are being taught. And that way, we can also educate the parents to teach their children about what is really right or wrong.

    However, even as the brainwashing continues, despite how potent it is, we always will have a few true-hearted converts. Some liberally-educated kid gets threatened by some gang member, and then realizes that all the things he/she been taught won't really help. Then they'll start looking for other sources of "the truth".

    However, we don't want that. We want our children to be aware of the FACTS even before they encounter a dangerous situation and realize that the liberals won't be out to help them.
    Remember what Lenin said? Give him all our 4 year olds, and what happens after that? Not pleasant at all.

    And the problem with brainwashing isn't even the demographic locations. I went to high school in Brooklyn, NY, and it was probably the most friendliest environment for any kind of politics, including guns. From my 4 years in high school, I greatly promoted gun rights, and educated many fellow students and teachers regarding gun rights, and everytime I was received with very positives responses. Even my Leadership teacher is pro gun and a NRA member. This is in NYC by the way. Yet we have schools all the way iin rural Georgia and Alabama that is trying to turn us good ol' boys into some weed smoking "lets hold hands and dance", and "fight violence with flowers" that type of 60'ish liberalism.

    Demographic locations doesn't determine where liberalness is going to be preached. It's like a glob of feces thrown into a sprinkler system. the sprinker wheels fling the fecal matter in all directions and the feces aren't going to discriminate where they pollute. A dirty part of the grass covered with vomit and beer bottles from last night's frat party might not get one bit of the brown stuff but another section of grass, the part where kids are most likely to play on, might get splattered.
    Anybody understand?
    The only way to fight this form of fecal smearing is by setting up ANOTHER sprinker system, and connected to a supply of disinfectant, and spraying the areas that have been splattered.

    Thats why we should make it OUR priority to make sure all of the parents in our conservative community should be aware of the up-to-date facts. Some kids might just not tell their parents what they are being taught in class, and therefore, nobody will have the chance to warn them of the impending danger.
     
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  2. TexasRifleman

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    Your call to action might be taken better if it didn't sound like, and contain, a commercial advertisement for Ron Paul.....
     
  3. Thernlund

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    Completely agree.


    -T.
     
  4. Rachen

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    I see. I corrected my post. Hope it sounds better now.
     
  5. adobewalls

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    Teach them to read and then give them a reading list.

    That is the SINGLE most important thing you can do to INNOCULATE your children against the drivel that the schools now teach.

    Get them to read early, and have them read 2 or 3 years ahead of their grade. If you can get to them and start developing their mind before the teachers, they will recognize the brain-washing when its attempted.

    This is a partial list of stories and books my son read, I suggested most in the early years - he went his own way in later years, but I agreed with his selections:

    Age 8 to 10:

    Robinson Caruso
    The Call of the Wild
    White Fang
    To Buld a Fire
    Lennihen and the Ants
    Master of the World
    War of the Worlds
    The Invisible Man
    Around the World in 80 Days
    The Lottery
    Sherlock Holmes series
    Animal Farm

    Age 11 to 12
    Harry Potter series
    The Lord of the Rings series
    The Lord of the Flies
    Rifles for Watie
    Tom Sawyer
    Huck Finn
    Connecticut Yankee in King Author's Court
    From the Earth to the Moon
    Edgar Rice Bourroughs (The Martian Chronicles series)
    King Solomon's Mines
    The Four Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John)
    A Brief History of Time
    Ben Hur
    Death in the Long Grass

    Age 13 to 15
    The 4th Dimension
    Flatland
    2001 a Space Odessy
    Authur C Clarke series
    Dune series
    Dune prologue series
    The Fountainhead
    Atlas Shrugged
    Heinlien's Sci Fi short stories
    Starship Troopers
    1984
    The Priviledged Planet
    Darwin's Black Box
    The Prince, Machevelli
    History of Gunpowder
    History of Pi


    I remember when he was in 7th or 8th grade my son was assigned to read a really stupid book about a girl that went to sea and wound up changing from a pampered pouty debutante to a calloused sailorette. He couldn't take it, he refused to read the book and took a lower grade because of his refusal.

    The point being he was was reading at way beyond his age group and some really deep stuff, and enjoying it. And then had to read what he recongized as crap and he refused. And I supported him.

    Now you may not agree with my selection, but that is your perogative, there are classic works out there that children read for generations that is orders of magnitude beyond what they are required to read now. Choose it - but get them to read, it teaches a kid to think on his own.

    Oh, also be sure to take your children shooting, start them with reactive targets, and they will be hooked for life. And the "Secret Life of Charlotte Doyle" makes a wonderful target.
     
  6. Ridgerunner665

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    Th Call of the Wild and White Fang should be required reading...thats the best 2 books I ever read...and I've read many....Also a good one, Jim Carmichael's "The Book of the Rifle".
     
  7. Gord

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    I'd add Gary Paulsen's "Hatchet" and Jean Craighead George's "My Side of the Mountain" to the list, and suggest that Orwell be saved for another couple of years - at 8-10 years old I imagine most of it would go right over your kid's head.
     
  8. MiddleAgedKen

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    "Leiningen and the Ants" gave me the willies, man.* Great story though.

    *That does not mean I would not have my sons read it.
     
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  9. adobewalls

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    I had forgot about "My Side of the Mountain", it was a good read and my son read that.

    I guess the point I was trying to make is there is a wealth of good reading that encourages kids to think, be adventerous and help them to understand the world for what it is.

    My son is in college now, and does a good job of thinking on his own; in spite of having to read and listen to some of the dribble that passes for scholarship now days. I like to think that him reading many of the same books I read growing up - which were usually themes of self-reliance, individualism and sacrifice helped shape him to be the person he is and will become.

    Oh, about Animal Farm, I read that to my daughter when she was 9 and she (1) loved the story and (2) understood it was really talking about people. She did not understand what communism was, but she did understand some people pretend to be things they are not for their own advantage.

    That is one way to counter the indoctrination. There are other ways also such as taking over the school board, attending school board meetings, volunteering (that way you find out which teachers are true believers.)
     
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    Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged". Read it when I was 13 & loved it, even if it was almost 1,000 pages.

    I do not have children, but perhaps that could be recommended as a more advanced reading project?
     
  11. learn2shoot

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    Fahrenheit 451
     
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    I'd highly recommend some of Hemingway's stuff. My personal favorite has always been 'For Whom the Bell Tolls.' Nobody can set up a heroic last stand like Hemingway.

    Another fine American writer is Kenneth Roberts. He wrote a lot of historical fiction. Some of his best center around the American Revolution, before and after. One his best works is Northwest Passage.
     
  13. Rachen

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    "Hatchet", by Gary Paulsen, was a book that I first read when I was in 3rd Grade. That was the book that got me interested in the outdoors FOREVER.

    Everytime I see the book now, I keep thinking "Cabelas" for some reason.:)
     
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    Might I suggest some Kipling, especially the poetry. Your silly sea story sounds like a rewrite of "Captains Courageous". Reading is the key to all intellectual growth and one of the first things to be wrecked by social educators. It is no accident that most of the required reading in public education is dreck. If you kill the love of reading, you kill the ability to
    reason.
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  15. Nietzsche

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    I think they'll not be banned. I think they'll go for confiscation this time. Banning guns didn't work so well for liberals. There were still plenty of guns out there, and new ones were being made after the mag capacity and bayonet lugs came off. So I figure this time they just say "Turn 'em in by XXXX date and time, or its 15-to-life in prison."
     
  16. ZeSpectre

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    someone beat me to Fahrenheit 451 and Animal Farm
    Has anyone mentioned lord of the flies?
     
  17. Glockfan.45

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    "Animal Farm"

    "The Giver"

    "Fahrenheit 451"

    These are all good books to educate children early on as to the dangers of communism/socialism/liberalism. Interestingly enough all three were required reading for me in school. My daughters attend the same schools I went to. "The Giver" was removed from the library per directive. The other two listed books are no longer required reading. :(

    Its funny, while I never thought about it these three books likely shaped alot of my views early on in life and probably prevented me from going on to become a liberal :barf: later. A great thread that made me think.
     
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    I totally forgot about this book, loved it when I was a kid. Gonna have to find a copy.
     
  19. the iron horse

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    I teach 7th Grade Language Arts.

    We will be reading this book and viewing the film in April:

    Shane by Jack Schaefer
     
  20. CalamityJane

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    Hatchet is a wonderful book as is My Side of the Mountain. I would also add another of Jean Craighead George's books, "Julie of the Wolves", another survival story but featuring a girl.

    Your idea is exactly right. Parents and all members of the family need to take back the primary responsibility of the education of their children. We can't rely on school systems anymore. I'm sure they weren't perfect when I was in elementary and middle school, but at least we started every day with the Pledge and did have to read some good books.
     
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    Drivel. ;)
     
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    Island of the Blue Dolphins
     
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    Hey there.
    I must admit. I agree with the post that said "Book of the rifle"
    Mine is getting old now. But is my most prized book.
     
  24. yhtomit

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    Firearms related: "Harrison Bergeron."

    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron)

    Also, Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn.

    First book (beyond phonics drill book) I ever read had plenty of independence and some brave gun use -- Dan'l Boone on the Caroliny Trail; I can't come up with an author for it right now, though. If you find a copy, I recommend it!

    timothy
     
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    I am aware that this is an old thread but I think it's interesting that we're almost 3 years out and it hasn't come true.
     
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