H-110 is all that!

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My first experience with loading .357 mag and H-110 was great. Based upon what I had read here I loaded up some .357s with WSPM primers and a whole lotta H-110. The gun I'm using is a stainless S&W 686-3, 6" factory ported barrel with a bushnell holosight. Typically I just reload 357 for target type velocities but I had a hankerin for some full boat loads. (Stress relief from work ya know.)

I loaded some 125 gr Rem JSP with 21.5 gr of H-110. That much powder in the 357 case looks like it might be a compressed load just barely. The recoil was suprisingly mild (almost could describe as 'smooth'). The rounds were very accurate. The gun and brass were also very clean after shooting. The wife did say when I got back inside the house that "those rounds sounded a whole lot louder than normal." They do have a nice report to them.

If the sun would ever shine here I would like to chrono the load. The Hogdon manual says that load should be around 1800 fps.

The only problem I had was that the H-110 powder is VERY fine and static cling was more noticeable than with other powders I have used. Anyway I think I like my .357 mag even more now. :D

Dave.
 
As I remember that manual uses a longer than normal barrel. It's still a good hot load. From a 6 inch barrel you should get around 1500-1600.
 
Mine loaded with 19grs of H110 I call Flame Throwers. :fire: :neener:


Just saw the new hand out from Hogdon and they are calling for 22grs have to give them a try out of my GP 100. Should be fun. :D
 
The first time I shot H110 it was 22 gr H110, 125 gr JHP in a S&W model 60 J frame.

I was afraid, the it said, "no load reductions" and I was so green I believed that.

I tied up the little revolver and got behind some protection and pulled a trigger string.

The pistol fired and came flying back passed my hiding spot. It came loose, from how I tied it up. THe primer was top hatted. The smoke smelled good.
 
a bit timid at first

I must admit that I had some reservations on pulling the trigger on the first group. Even though that load is in the Hogdon manual, it seemed like ALOT of powder and magnum primers to boot.

dave.
 
i just used h110 for the first time today.....

21 gr. behind 180gr in 357max....
it went boom...
it grouped real nice too....

time to move up.....:D
 
JEEEMUNNY CHRISMUSS - - --

Clark, please tell me you didn't go ahead and hand-shoot any of that load in a J-frame! Yes, I know that IS a posted MAXIMUM load on the Hodgon web site, and in an L-frame, I MIGHT try it out. But, in a J-frame . . . .

Don't tell me, let me guess: Your little revolver showed no ill effects following that test, right?

wow.

Best,
Johnny
 
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yesterdaysyouth - -
You had me going for a second, until I saw you referred to the top load for .357 Maximum cartridge. That one is Hodgon's Never Exceed load, I notice. If you wish to share your progress with us, please do include the required cautionary language.

(Why moderators get grey . . . .)

:p
Best,
Johnny
 
H110 is a wonderful powder. Certainly a staple on my bench for a number of calibers. I have never really played around much with 125 grain bullets in the .357 but after reading this thread I am going to have to give it a try.

I have fired max charges of H110 and 158 grain and 180 grain bullets out of my 2 1/4" SP101.

As I mentioned in a previous thread, H110 really comes into it's own with long barrels. Shooting my H110 loads out of a 2 1/4" SP101, a 4" GP100, and a 18.5" Carbine showed as much as 500+fps advantage of the carbine over the 4" GP100.
 
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It's also my staple for .44 Mag. .357 doesn't have much wiggle room for the powder weights but is my 1st choice for full power loads, especially in my Taurus 669 with it's ported 6" barrel.

EDIT: Oops, sorry folks. The load data I posted earlier was for my 6" .50 AE Desert Eagle, I didn't mean to imply to load that much in a .357 Mag

Posted from work and must have been interupted or distracted.

Thanks to the ever vigilant mods for catching that. Another good example as to why you should always confirm load data.
 
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Black Snowman's original post, reconstructed and SLIGHTLY eidted:
In my Desert Eagle 6" .50 AE, with the Speer 385 gr. UniCor HP bullet the full 32.0 gr of H-110 loads make a beutiful three foot long flame out the front of the gun and an impressive concussion. Accuracy is much better with the "will barely cycle the slide" 27.0 gr of H-110 but their fireball is only about a foot long. :evil:

It's also my staple for .44 Mag. .357 doesn't have much wiggle room for the powder weights but is my 1st choice for full power loads, especially in my Taurus 669 with it's ported 6" barrel.
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In the PM, I promised that if it was clarified, I'd restore the deleted material. I believe the above is true to the original intent.
Johnny
 
H110 is a good powder for the .357 Desert Eagle, too.

Soon as I burn through the rest of my 4 pounds of WW296, I'm gonna give H110 a go at the 158gr loads in my .357 Desert Eagle. I did hear a rumor somewhere that H110 and WW296 are manufactured in the same facility.

Dunno, but when my buddy's .44 Magnum Desert Eagle sent his 300gr Speer handloads downrange, it was on top of a goodly amount of H110. I was impressed by the fireball and the accuracy of the big gas gun. Hence my decision to buy my own gas gun.
 
I've used H-110 for years and it's one of finest powders for my larger hammers. 41, 44 Mag. 45 Colt, 454 Casull use it also for the 357 mag.

My close second is 2400. If you haven't tried any Accurate #9 try it as it produces some very good moderate range loads.

I'm going this weekend to pick up a 8 pound jug as I'm just about out.

Have a good day and remember to pray for the safety of our troops.

Turk
 
if you guys like h110 try some wc820 from gibrass,$8 per pound delivered to your door.
wc820f(hs7) can be used for smaller calibers 9mm,357,40,10mm,45acp.
these two powders let me load everything from9mm to 50 ae.
 
I finally got around to loading up some .357, 125 grain SPs with 22.0 grains of H110. Fired them out of my 4" GP100. Nice stout load. I am not sure what niche it fills for me, but it was fun. It sounded very loud even with hearing protection. It seemed to be accurate although I only fired a couple groups with it. I did fire two groups as fast as I could pull the trigger from about 10 yards. It is certainly a viable choice for a defense load; I didn't have any problem controlling it. Probably about as fast as I would be shooting with a 1911. All shots were in the 10 ring of a 25 yard pistol target with 3x both times.
I didn't chono it because my chronograph is currently out of service. I lost one of the little aluminum rods that hold the sun shades on it.
I also loaded up a bunch of 110 grain HPs with 16.0 grains of Blue Dot which the Alliant website lists as giving 2040 fps out of a 5.6" barrel. I have chonoed this load before out of my 6.5" Blackhawk and got an average velocity of 1980 fps. Today, out of my GP100, this load grouped into one ragged hole at 25 yards with a large fireball to boot. This load shoots a 110 grain bullet as fast as an M1 carbine only here we are using a handgun.
I want to run both of these loads through my 2" SP101, my 4" GP100, the 6.5" Blackhawk, and my 18" Marlin Carbine and see what kind of numbers I get out of the various barrel lengths.
I guess the 125 grain load would be dandy for coyotes. I normally use the 110 grain load for them, but why not expand my horizons ?
 
The current manual calls for 22 grains as a never exceed with a 125 XTP in 357 mag. I have been there and a tad more but find that day in and day out my M19 is topped out plus a little at 22 grains. It is big STOUT. I don't know what they shot 22 grains in but it must have been a slick loose fast pig of a gun. Anything over about 21 is getting REAL stout. Be careful guys.

EDIT:corrected load data and removed reference to a load that exceeds current recommended maximums.
 
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Using 158 grain bullets, I got significantly higher velocity with H110 over Lil Gun. However I got the most velocity using AA #9. Using max loads from the manual I got 1234 fps with Lil Gun, 1321 fps with H110, and 1354 fps with AA #9 again, this with 158 grain JHP bullets (five shot averages from a 4" Ruger GP100 at 15 feet from the screens).
I haven't done much at all with 125 grain bullets, but I guess I am starting that now.

HSMITH
The manual says 23 grains ? I dont' have a manual, I was using the charge listed on their website, which was 22 grains.
 
CAUTION: The following post includes loading data BELOW currently published MINIMUMS for this cartridge and powder. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Neither the writer, The High Road, nor the staff of THR assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information.

Don't see that warning every day although there was that "primer only" load thread, but on to the point . . .

Lil'Gun is very similar in burn rate and the manual data looks good. Being eaiser to ignite I was hoping there would be load data out with it sometime for the .50 AE but after experimenting with loads I found that even down to the minimum ammount of H-110 to lock the slide back on the last round reliably that ignition was completely reliable. That light .50 AE load is 27.0 gr of H110 with a CCI LPM primer and a Speer 325 gr GDHP set to near MCOL.

Wheras, depending on the manual, some of the data for anything less than MAX loads .357 Magnum with just about any bullet generated unburnt powder and near squibs even with a heavy crimp and magnum primers. It's this experiance that origionally had me looking at Lil'Gun when it first appeard as a replacement.

YMMV and all the other usuall disclaimers.
 
Well for loads less than max, I wouldn't use H110.
In .357, for my everyday plinking loads I use either Bullseye, or Unique. Usually Bullseye since that is the same powder I use for my everyday plinking loads in .38 Special. Both with 158 grain cast SWC bullets.
 
Soon as I burn through the rest of my 4 pounds of WW296, I'm gonna give H110 a go at the 158gr loads in my .357 Desert Eagle. I did hear a rumor somewhere that H110 and WW296 are manufactured in the same facility.
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I asked Hodgdon if H110 and 296 where the same stuff in different packages, they said it was and any differences were just what you would normally see between different lots of powder.

Winchester didn't respond when I asked them the same question.
 
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