H&K P30-9mm vs. Glock 19-9mm

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Most hand guns are quality, fire every time and have loyal followers. To me it boils down to what you buy and get used to. Do you like the DA-SA or striker fire. I have both and like the striker action best. I just like to same pull each time.
I see that point getting recycled a lot when HK is the topic, but $300 is nothing, zero, squat. Overtime, actual shooters will put that amount of money through the gun in less than 2 thousand rounds.

I have spent roughly 3 times the gun's price feeding it so far. And by the end of its life the number will conceivably be closer to 9 times what I payed for the gun.

$300 to have a perfect grip (for me) and ambi controls that allow me to keep a full firing grip when manipulating them.... well, it's not even a consideration. It's peanuts.

Still, the consumables way out price the gun's cost; again, for actual shooters. If it's going to sit in the safe or see 50 rounds at the range every three months, then maybe you have a point.

Very well said!

Hi-Point owners say that a Glock does not do anything more functionaly than their Hi-Point for the extra $300 also.

People need to think "investment" when making decisions such as buying a pistol and not an expense. The investment is in your personal enjoyment, owner statisfaction, personal performance, and safety.

Also just because one person does not see the value of the extra investment does not mean others will not.

Many make a firearm purchase based on what will be good enough for them while others want what will be the best for them.

I see this all the time at the range where one (probably most) will put a silhouette target 15 feet away and blast away and be happy that they got most shots on the paper and call it a day. Others will put an 8 inch target at 75 feet be disappointed that they missed the target one time.
Most hand guns are quality, fire every time and have loyal followers. To me it boils down to what you buy and get used to. Do you like the DA-SA or striker fire. I have both and like the striker action best. I just like to same pull each time.

An LEM equipped HK has the same trigger pull each time.

I really like the feel of HK handguns. I just don't like hammer fired pistols with a heavy DA pull.

There is no DA pull on LEM equipped HKs.
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People need to think "investment" when making decisions such as buying a pistol and not an expense. The investment is in your personal enjoyment, owner statisfaction, personal performance, and safety.

Now that is well said.
The $250 price difference between Glock and HK gets you a 'nicer', but exactly equally functional weapon.

The $250 difference between a Hi-Point and a Glock gets you a weapon that is significantly better suited for competition, defense, whatever you might need a handgun for other than pure plinking.

I never said HKs aren't worth their price, but the price reflects an awful lot of machining that a different design, the Glock, doesn't have.

Does the price reflect a tougher finish? Not really, HK's hostile environment finish appears to work just as well as Glock's tennifer, no better, no worse.

Does the price reflect a more reliable weapon? Doesn't appear that way, given the Glocks with round counts in the hundreds of thousands.

Does it reflect better materials? Well, the type of polymer feels a little different between them, but one has not proven to be superior to the other yet. The metals, well they have both been treated with an excellent corrosion resistant process, so corrosion has not shown itself to be an issue with either pistol. So it seems they are equal in that regard, except the HK pistols do weigh more, have more metal in them than the Glock. Not sure if that's an advantage or disadvantage, the larger and heavier slide seems to tame the recoil of .40 caliber pistols better, but makes for a somewhat bulkier and heavier gun. The barrels in both are cold hammer forged, polygonal-bored, and both are accurate for a fighting-type pistol. I'm calling materials equal as well.

Does the price difference go into making the HK easier for the owner to service at home? Neither pistol is extremely complicated, but the edge definitely goes to the Glock design, someone with a modicum of mechanical inclination and an appropriate punch can replace pretty much every small part in their pistol in a matter of a few minutes and put it back together the right way. I never tried to detail strip my HK, seemed like it was best to leave it alone.

HKs cost more because they are a manufactured good that is made in a more expensive way than the Glock is. Not because they are an objectively better weapon. If they fit your hands better, if you like their sights better, if you want a hammer fired gun instead of a striker fired one, they are subjectively better for you. HK pistols may be a better fit for you, but they are not a better pistol than an equivalent Glock. And it cuts both ways. Many people would rather have a concealed primer igniter, or a lighter trigger or gun, or maybe they just have little room to spare in their waistband and want a pistol like the HK, Glock, XD, but how trim the slide is plays a part in deciding which pistol to get.

Like you guys just said, the price difference is pretty insignificant. The pistols themselves are not priced on an inferior-superior scale though, they are priced based on how much the market will pay and how much it cost to produce them. The HK is a more expensive pistol, because it was designed that way. Not because it's better.
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You can get a P30 for 300 dollars less by purchasing the original Walther P99. Only difference in any measure is hammer fired vs striker fired in the P99.

The mag release on the P99 is easier to use, though both are superior (in my opinion) to the buttons.

I second this opinion, but you forgot to mention how much better the trigger is on the Walther compared to the H&K (not to mention the lowly Glock - we won't even pick on it).
To the OP you bought a great gun enjoy it. I have one in .40 and love it. I also happen to have a Glock 19 which I love to shoot as well. They're a little bit like apples and oranges as in one is a striker fired gun and one is hammer fired gun. For me I like the way the p30 feels in my hand. Makes it easy for me to shoot accurately and has been 100% reliable every time out. I also like the decocker function and its location. gives you the benefit of a da trigger if you want or need it, yet still shoots sa for the most part. And iirc you get a second trigger strike with that gun if it missfires. Also this is a truly ambidextrous gun with the mag release and safety on both sides.
The Glock is a great gun as well just pull the trigger and it goes bang. Nothing much to fuss with and it just always seems to work. I have a much maligned gen 4 and haven't had a problem with it yet in a few hundred rounds I shot it.
Just get both and your dilema is resolved.
I think it's pretty much what you get used to. If you carry a Glock the Hk is going to feel "diferent" and vice versa. We get used to things and the to switch is difficult. You should shoot what you shoot best it's that simple.
The HK is an "HK" the gLoCk is just a gLoCk. There is no direct comparison. The ergonomics are far better on any HK and the operating principles are different, HK's are hammer fired and gLoCk is striker. The grip angle on the HK is correct, the gLoCk is all wrong. The grip on the HK feels like it is a part of your hand, the gLoCk feels like a bLoCk.

I don't like gLoCk's, so I am BIASED. You made the correct choice, you don't see a lot of comments about HK here because gLoCk's are cheaper and more people own them. Some of them are quite obnoxious about their love for their gLoCk's and they can be quite annoying at times.

Looks like the HK fellas make up for the lack of quantity with a higher level of obnoxious.

Also, my main problem with HK's is they are hideous. I can deal with plain ugly but busy ugly is too much.
I've shot Glocks. I own HKs. I like the grip angle more and the ergonomics on the HKs. I know too many Glock shooters who have made extensive modifications to their weapons to be of the mind that Glocks are great right out of the box. I've also seen a great many malfunctions with Glocks. Perhaps that's because so many people shoot them in competition that it skews the number of malfunctions I've seen. I have had a bad magazine in an HK P7M13 cause malfunctions, but I haven't had malfunctions with the "combat" HKs I own.

I like hammer fired over striker fired for defense. More power to the firing pin/primer and the chance to hit the primer again on a misfire.

I like the DA/SA on the P30 and P30L and actually don't have an accuracy problem on the first shot. (When on the range, it's more noticeable. When on the clock in competition, I barely think about the trigger pull. I just focus on the front sight.)

HKs are built to withstand a shot fired with an obstructed barrel, feel better to me overall, and have a bit more safety (in my mind) than the Glocks. The Glocks are fine pistols if that's what you want...don't get me wrong. It wasn't what *I* wanted.

I will also say that I went out and looked at specs and reviews before I really began acquiring firearms. I had a 1911 and a 686, but wanted more capacity and an easy to use firearm that the wife could operate (and had a Picatinney rail). I didn't decide to buy an HK and justified it. I went looking for the best weapon I could find and believe I found it in the HK. (In the end, I was down to a SIG and the HK45. I chose the HK45 and have never regretted it.)
One other thing...If I were to transition from the HKs to any striker fired weapon, it would be the S&W M&P, not the Glock. My three cents.
If you don't like the HK DA/SA and want something more like a Glock trigger then check out the version 1 or 2 LEM (Law Enforcement Mode) triggers that HK offers.

I had a Gen 3Glock 19 and while I think it is a fine pistol for what it is, the HK P30 is sooo much nicer. Mine has the V2 LEM setup and I really like that it has an exposed hammer that I can put my thumb on when holstering. Adds a little extra insurance that the trigger is not getting depressed.
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