Had to wait for a handgun that I purchased, odd feeling

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As a Tennessee resident my typical gun buying experience is to go to the store, pick out my gun and stack it with a couple of boxes of ammo on the counter. Then I fill out the forms, wait 30 minutes, pay for my purchase and walk out with my gun & ammo. Nice and easy, no issues.

Last Saturday I bought a handgun across the border in Alabama. No carrying it home. It had to get shipped to my local FFL...Oh, was that a weird feeling!

I do love the fact that they make it as painless as possible. Every Wednesday the Alabama gun shop runs the load of purchased to a hardware store on the town square in the town I live in. The hardware store does not sell guns, but is a FFL and does the transfer. There is no shipping charge and the hardware store only charges $10 for the transfer.

So this time it was buy Saturday and leave the store with extra magazines and ammo. Go to the hardware store on Thursday, do the transfer and walk out with my gun.

It must really suck to be in a state that has a mandatory waiting period!

Jim

I'm in Tennessee, and for the most part a NICS check usually only takes me 1-5 minutes, but it does depend on the status of the servers and phone lines. I've talked to several dealers at shows and they have said that the system crashes when traffic gets heavy, such as gun show weekends. If the servers fail, then that only leaves the phone line check, and that can get backed up or have issues too, and the NICS database service seems prone to crashing, also.

Personally, I've only had to wait once, and it was only for about fifteen minutes at a gun show. The dealer was using the call-in line and had to wait a few minutes in que before getting approval.

Your out-of-state transfer is just about as good as could possibly be expected. I paid a $25 transfer fee plus $30 shipping for a .45 Cougar, and I thought it was a decent deal factoring in the price of the pistol. You paid $10 and received your purchase two days quicker than I did. Sure, it's not as quick as buying in state, but if the price of the firearm is right, then it's worth the hassle and the wait.

But, at the same time, I'm still trying to figure out how all these regulations don't infringe on my right to keep and bear arms, though.
 
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Howzit halfbreed, yeah ain't it a pain. I'm just glad the line went down. For those who are unfamiliar with registering a firearm in Hawaii, during the latest round of banoramma scares, the line at the Honolulu Police Department to register firearms was up to a 5 hour wait. and thats going to apply for said permit, 2 week wait, getting back in line for 5 hours to pick up permit, run back to store to pick up handgun, run back to HPD for another 5 hour wait to register handgun. :fire::cuss:
now it's down to a reasonable 45 min line. (+ 2 weeks) X2. :banghead:

oh wait it get even better, paying for parking in downtown Honolulu.
 
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I can understand where the OP is coming from. I recently bought a gun off gunbroker for the first time ever. I had do some extra leg work & wait from Sunday when I purchased it until Friday to get it. Having lived in Georgia my whole life waiting was a new experience. I used to have to wait for the NICS check now I have my Georgia Weapons License & it takes no longer than the time I take to fill out the paperwork & let them copy my Drivers License & GWL.
While waiting for a purchase to come in so we can go get it from our friendly local FFL is a good problem to have it is difficult for those of us used to instant gratification. I feel for those that live in the states with the more cumbersome regulations.
 
But, at the same time, I'm still trying to figure out how all these regulations don't infringe on my right to keep and bear arms, though.

Of course they infringe! They are using the commerce clause to get around the 2A. They want to discourage gun ownership and know who has what. They violate the record retention law with impunity. Background checks only stop the stupid and lazy criminals.
 
I fail to see what the bitching/bragging is all about. Most things in life that are worthwhile require patience. To put things into perspective, NFA transfers require a 6-9 month wait. If you want a semiauto BAR from Ohio Ordnance Works, put down a deposit and wait 6 months to a year before the next production run. As a collector, I've waited half a lifetime for certain things and still haven't found them.
 
I'm talking about the time it takes when the clerk picks up the phone to start the NICS process until he hangs up and gives you the thumbs up or down. Let's take out the mad panic period, when everyone was buying, and the system was overloaded. Does it really take 30 minutes?
Actually, I don't know, My career just started, and all of my purchases so far, were panic purchases. I assume it's probably only about 5 min in most LGSs around here...but these guys are jerks during panic, pre, or post. But Gosh they have a lot of hardware and always have ammo (and decently priced).
 
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Okay here we go.
I live in Liberal Hell Hawaii. to purchase a long gun you need to go to your police dept. & fill out a permit application, pay $20 for your background checks (the fee is a one time deal) and wait two weeks. After the two weeks you pick up your permit and can purchase all the rifles you want for 1 year. Although after each purchase you need to return to the police station to register your firearm within 5 days of your purchase. :fire:

Now for a pistol. First you need to have proof that you have passed a mandatory safety course. Then you can go to your gun dealer and buy your pistol. After filling out the paper work, you take the paper the dealer gives you, take it to the police station and apply for your permit for that pistol. After two weeks you pick up your permit, go to the dealer and pick up your pistol. Then return to the police dept. to register it. :banghead:

On Oahu the only place you can do this is at the main police station in Honolulu. Lines are long and traffick sucks. :cuss:

Count your Blessings.
OMG thats horrible.
 
Unlike most states, where a waiting period is supposedly for a cooling off period, here in California, all gun laws a highly punitive. The state here does not want citizens armed and does everything it can get away with to make gun ownership a nightmare. A ten day wait? How does that help anyone once a gun owner owns more than one gun? How can you cool off if you already own a safe full of guns? So what is the purpose of the ten day wait?

As far as the "Not Unsafe" Handgun Roster, any new handgun must be submitted to the CADOJ by the manufacturer for testing and evaluation, all new semi-auto handguns were required to feature a magazine disconnect feature and a loaded chamber indicator. Now, the AG here has just put into affect a microstamping law that will eventually mean that you will not be able to buy a new handgun in this state because no manufacturers will introduce handguns with expensive, unproven, flawed technology. No microstamping, a handgun cannot be added to the roster. If a gun is not on the roster, it cannot be sold in California. We have a way to get around these stupid, harassing laws called Single Shot Exemption, because a single shot handgun is not affected by these arbitrary Handgun Roster rules. Some dealers (must be an FFL07/SOT2) stock kits that temporarily turn any semi-auto handgun into a single shot, you take delivery, take the kit off and voila, you own a handgun that our dear leaders say is dangerous and you should not be able to own. But there is a pending bill AB169 that will outlaw the SSE process.

We are at war here as gun owners. I think the eventual plan is to make owning guns so onerous here that eventually we will all become felons and then they will be able to strip our RKBA. No California gun laws are sensible, thoughtful or make sense.
 
Actually, I don't know, My career started, and all of my purchases so far, were panic purchases. I assume it's probably only about 5 min in most LGSs around here...but these guys are jerks during panic, pre, or post. Gosh they have a lot of hardware and always have ammo (and decently priced).
There are actually some LGS around here that are customer orientated. Yeah they aren't as big as the one I'm assuming your going to, but they will match or beat his price 9 out of 10 times and don't act like your just another inconvience to them. PM me if you want to know some of the shops I have had better luck at.
 
Man, this has been an eye opening thread for me! While we in more gun friendly states count our blessings, it's been quite a wake-up call with regard to the insidiousness of the anti's agenda.
 
I never would have thought Massachusetts would be faster than Tennessee. For us its fill out the paperwork, swipe the card or hand over the cash, and walk out. The background check takes a 60 second phone call.
 
Must have bought from Larry's...
What did you buy?

I no longer comment on forums about what I may own or what I buy. There is a record of me making a handgun purchase that they can review if they choose. Past that, I'm not making it any easier for them.

Whatever I may or may not have bought, I like the feel. We'll see how it does tomorrow morning at the range!

Jim
 
In Virginia, I find an ad for a gun I want. I arrange a meetup time, inspect, buy the gun and pay with cash (or trade for one of my guns, ammo, or whatever). No forms, no fees, no government intrusion. If I buy from an FFL, I have to do the usual song and dance, but there's no waiting unless the VSP people had to go get coffee.

I will never return to Hawaii. That is not America!

Agreed and same here in Tennessee. They had a heck of a deal on a new hand gun that I have been looking for. I had to go the gun store route.

Jim
 
I never would have thought Massachusetts would be faster than Tennessee. For us its fill out the paperwork, swipe the card or hand over the cash, and walk out. The background check takes a 60 second phone call.

Remember that I picked up my handgun at a hardware store that also happens to be a FFL. He had to stop processing my stuff twice while he helped people find what they needed. Some guy needed something to attach two some things together, and a turnbuckle would not do the trick...I didn't get to hear the whole conversation so I'm not really sure what they were talking about. I just waited patiently...

Jim
 
Well I tested it out again today, box of ammo (free:D) and a Henry 22 lever action. Took about 10 minutes to do the paper work and write the check.

Took longer to drive their on my lunch than to buy the gun.
 
I don't know if the 48 hour wait has ever saved the life of someone

Do you happen to know if the 48 hour wait has ever cost anyone their life or health? A battered woman killed by her while she waited the states permission to defend herself? Such infringement can be fatal, even if not a personal hassle to you or me.


On a less serious note:
walking out 15 minutes later with a new Sig
It takes you that long?

I can't walk in and out of my LGS in less then 15 minutes, even if I'm not buying anything.
 
Nice! Even nicer to find 22lr ammo...

And free to boot. It is a 50 count of CCI velocitor. He had it marked at 7.59 so I don't think he was price scalping when he was selling them. He has been holding back a few boxes to give away with purchase of new 22's. He was cheaper than my local sportsman's and every one else around on the 22.
 
Do you happen to know if the 48 hour wait has ever cost anyone their life or health? A battered woman killed by her while she waited the states permission to defend herself? Such infringement can be fatal, even if not a personal hassle to you or me.

This is a VERY good question! Anyone ever hear about it? Any links to stories?

I don't know ANYTHING about this website, but it came up on a Google search:

http://www.afn.org/~afn01182/waiting.html

There are several stories, with names, about this issue.

Jim
 
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