mek42
Member
In NY, possession of a handgun without a CCW (that's right - possession, not carry) is a Class A misdemeanor - one step below a felony. If said handgun is loaded, the crime is a class C felony (Felonies and misdemeanors are graded A through E (I think E), with A being the worst, most penalized crimes). These are taken right from the consolidated laws.
From the NY DMV website for the worst DWI type (above 0.18% BAC - the LD 50 for ethanol is 0.55% BAC!) the first offense is a misdemeanor (the DMV site doesn't specify a class and conveniently doesn't immediately give a code reference), the second offense within 5 years is a Class E felony and the third offense (or more) within 10 years is only a Class D felony.
I don't know about the rest of you here, but I worry more for myself and my wife (we both have ~ 1 hour commutes) over drunk drivers than people minding their own business with a handgun in their pocket, CCW or not.
It is a well established statistic that vehicular accidents cause more fatalities per year than all firearm related deaths and that DWI is the most preventable cause of vehicular injury (i.e. just don't drink and drive).
I would like to know why the state doesn't care about the safety of the community by having such lax DWI laws with respect to the handgun possession laws.
It would be interesting to see how other states treat DWI vs. handgun possession / non-CCW carry so please post the penalties for your state.
From the NY DMV website for the worst DWI type (above 0.18% BAC - the LD 50 for ethanol is 0.55% BAC!) the first offense is a misdemeanor (the DMV site doesn't specify a class and conveniently doesn't immediately give a code reference), the second offense within 5 years is a Class E felony and the third offense (or more) within 10 years is only a Class D felony.
I don't know about the rest of you here, but I worry more for myself and my wife (we both have ~ 1 hour commutes) over drunk drivers than people minding their own business with a handgun in their pocket, CCW or not.
It is a well established statistic that vehicular accidents cause more fatalities per year than all firearm related deaths and that DWI is the most preventable cause of vehicular injury (i.e. just don't drink and drive).
I would like to know why the state doesn't care about the safety of the community by having such lax DWI laws with respect to the handgun possession laws.
It would be interesting to see how other states treat DWI vs. handgun possession / non-CCW carry so please post the penalties for your state.