Handgun safe for my night stand - advice needed

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I'd really get something larger than the pistol safes and put it in the corner next to the bed. Something like a the Brinks two tier document/business safe I bought. The safe weighs about almost two hundred pounds and would be really hard to crack. Those little boxes would just be taken and opened at a criminals leisure. Any adult really ought to have a decent safe and one isn't all that much money. It's not like you'd wear your safe out.
 
What is the concern you are trying to address with the lock box?

I keep a stock Radom P-64 in the nightstand. With a 24# trigger pull, I am confident that no child will be able to discharge it and also confident I will not set it off accidentally groping in the dark.

For every problem there is a solution, obvious, simple and wrong.
 
I'd like to get another Top Draw for another top drawer, but I've also been looking at the GunVault Mircovault because it is less than half the price. I have to believe it is less than half the quality too, but I asked a safe dealer recently who carries both and he thought they were of the same quality.:eek:

GunVault Microvault:
Size: 11" x 8 1/2" x 2 1/4"
Weight: 5 lbs

V-Line Top Draw:
Size: 12-1/4" x 9-1/2" x 2-1/2"
Weight: 9 lbs.

Hmmmmm. I don't know. It appears as though the V-line uses thicker gauge steel, but I haven't found either one's spec on that.
 
I keep a stock Radom P-64 in the nightstand. With a 24# trigger pull, I am confident that no child will be able to discharge it and also confident I will not set it off accidentally groping in the dark.

In MD where I live, leaving a weapon accessible to a minor 16 years of age or younger is a felony.

I am glad you feel confident that some mishap cannot occur, but I have to think that kind of confidence could cause a terrible accident that you cannot conceive of right now. i mean some kind of freak thing that isn't obvious to anyone until it happens. How can you feel confident that in the dark you couldn't have an ND?

If there are no kids around, be my guest. Personally I do the following because I have a 2 year old at home:

I have G22 and a G30 in my Gunvault full mags. No round in the chamber. The Gunvault is opened when I turn off the light and relocked first thing when I get up.

I hope something bad doesn't happen because of your confidence.
 
swinokur:

Har! You haven't tried to fire a P-64 have you?

Takes me two hands with two fingers on the trigger for the first (DA) shot.

My comment was partially 'tongue-in-cheek,' ... but only partially.
 
swinokur:

Har! You haven't tried to fire a P-64 have you?

Takes me two hands with two fingers on the trigger for the first (DA) shot.

My comment was partially 'tongue-in-cheek,' ... but only partially.
I have not. Don't even know what the firearm is. My point was that I would be worried that some freakish thing could happen that would give some kind of mechanical advantage and fire the weapon. i don't care if it takes a 50 pound pull, leaving a loaded unsecured weapon around kids is a recipe for disater IMO.

Leaving a firearm unsecured around kids in MD will get you an appearance in front of a judge, regardless of whether there is an AD or even worse.

My .02. YMMV
 
swinokur:

Noted. We have the same law in NC. No kids or grandkids in the home anymore. Everything secured when they are present. However, I am still not concerned for reasons stated previously.

The P-64 is a Polish designed knock-off of the Walther PPK with some notable deficiencies, including DA trigger pull.
 
I have G22 and a G30 in my Gunvault full mags. No round in the chamber. The Gunvault is opened when I turn off the light and relocked first thing when I get up.

If they're locked in the vault except when you turn out the light, why is the chamber empty? That could get you killed in a dire straits situation..........
 
If they're locked in the vault except when you turn out the light, why is the chamber empty? That could get you killed in a dire straits situation..........
I leave the chamber empty as an added layer of insurance. When I OC or CC I keep a round in the chamber because I think those situations where I might need a weapon tend to develop more quickly than a HD scenario. I could be wrong, but it's a chance I will take to guarantee my granddaughter's safety.. In the house, I HOPE I have time to rack the slide. If I don't then I have miscalculated and will most likely be dead or injured.

Once I walked out of my bedroom and forgot to lock my Gunvault and the granddaughter was playing in my bedroom. I was so concernedand angry at myself about my mistake I determined then and there that my Glocks would be in Condition 3 anytime a child was in the house. Just another layer of safety to prevent a tragedy IMO.

My .02. YMMV
 
Anyone else use the Stack-on handgun safe? It seems so much cheaper, so I'm wondering if there is a catch.
 
This is a great thread:)

My wife and I are expecting our first child next year. I know I have some time, but I would feel a lot more comfortable getting into a routine over the next 2 years before I have a curious toddler. I have a 12 gauge 870 that would work "best" for HD duty, but I cannot find a reliable way to keep it at the ready and not lose sleep over safety (remember, I'm a nervous new dad to-be).

At present, all of my firearms are "cheap", so any non-HD/EDC is locked in a gun cabinet unloaded or without their magazines and the ammo is locked up in a separate drawer. If someone wants to steal my guns, they shouldn't have much trouble. They aren't worth much, but the cabinet keeps them out of reach unless someone takes a hammer or boot to the door.

One of those gun vaults looks great for my purpose. Having fast access to my .45 yet being out of reach of a child is crucial. Generally speaking, my HD pistol is my EDC pistol as well, so I'm not TOO concerned that my kid is going to get to my gun when I'm not around, but better safe than sorry.
 
I have the V-Line slimline version with the simplex mechanical lock. Mounted in a nightstand drawer.

It's ok. Some comments:

My overwhelming motive was to prevent young children access to these guns (2), while having them reasonably accessable.

It works satisfactorily for this purpose - if locked (see below) a child will not be able to get into it.

There is no method or type of gun that is safe enough, when children are around, to have a handgun in unsecured storage. If a gun cannot be secured where a child cannot get his hands on it, then the risk is not worth the reward and the gun should not be in the home.

I did not want electronic / powered lock.

Simplex lock works well, very easy and fairly quiet to unlock in no light situations.

It's small, but you can put at least one fairly large auto (Smith 59) and one small revolver (Smith 37) in it. Plus one extra mag. But it takes some fussing to make it all fit around the lock.

Opening the box means, if you have it in a nightstand drawer, that you must open the drawer far enough to uncover the box PLUS add room for the cover when it swings up - about an additional 2". Smaller nightstands will not accomodate this.

It helps to secure the box inside the drawer so it can't slip about.

This box DOES NOT relock automatically on closing, you must relock it manually. This is a very quick process, but still is a design a flaw in my view. It should re-lock itself.

The lock extends downward into the interior of the box so much that you cannot store a normal revolver (e.g. K-frame Smith) or hi-cap auto (in my case a Smith 59) in the lower left 1/4section of the box.

As I said, it's ok.

It is wildly overpriced, ~$125, for what you get. It would be high priced at half that. However, I saw nothing comparable that met my needs, and my desire to secure the guns from kids overrode the rip-off price.

It is NOT a theft deterrent but that was not my reason for using it. Very thin gauge steel.
 
I have a holster mounted to the bedframe, access to my gun is quick and easy. Center of Mass has several small gun safes that can be used on the nightstand, in the car or attached to the bedframe.
http://www.center-of-mass.com/
I use the car safe with a combination lock and the cable is attached to the seat frame. In CA it's a felony to be within 1,000 feet of a school with a firearm, unless it is locked up.

I also have a "Book Safe" from Harbor Freight. It's cheap and covers the "locked up" requirement for Gun Free School Zones and looks like a book on a nightstand. It has a combo lock, which will keep a small child out of it.
 
I have a GunVault Micro with biometric opening. Price was not bad and works like a charm, also doesn't take up the entire nightstand.
 
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