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I'm a little disappointed they didn't stay true to the Cz design by the slide riding inside the frame but I'm sure the engineers had their reasons. This gun is very glock like with the takedown process and rail, while supposedly fits g19 holsters as well as p07 holsters. I don't know how they managed that one. It's so much glock like the slogan is "Improving on Perfection". I think we have a winner. We can never have enough striker fired handguns with superb triggers. What do you guys think?
 
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I think it's neat we can embed videos now!

Seems like an interesting pistol, but it isn't anything unique to the market other than its a CZ and striker fired.
 
Very, very interesting! Like the quick reset trigger design and the overall ergonomics of the gun. Looks to be another winner for CZ!
 
I think it's neat we can embed videos now!

Seems like an interesting pistol, but it isn't anything unique to the market other than its a CZ and striker fired.
Yeah, just probably another good option in a market of good striker fired options. I was hoping for Cz to add a 45 to their lineup for the new year, maybe 2018 will bring a p10 in 45 acp
 
Meh.

What I find appealing in CZ handguns is their use of steel frames. Followed by their good to excellent (with some mods) SA triggers.

I get that they wanna make plastic variants of the 75. But this...?
 
Meh.

What I find appealing in CZ handguns is their use of steel frames. Followed by their good to excellent (with some mods) SA triggers.

I get that they wanna make plastic variants of the 75. But this...?

There actually is a polymer framed CZ 75 variant called the CZ 75 Phantom. Also CZ has the P-07 and P-09, so they aren't new to polymer guns. They've actually been making polymer guns since the mid 90's. the CZ 100 was a striker fired polymer handgun.
 
There actually is a polymer framed CZ 75 variant called the CZ 75 Phantom. Also CZ has the P-07 and P-09, so they aren't new to polymer guns. They've actually been making polymer guns since the mid 90's. the CZ 100 was a striker fired polymer handgun.

Yes, I am aware of the 07 and 09 and whatnot. All 75 variants in my opinion. Like I said, those make sense to me. But breaking from their general, somewhat unique, form factor just to make another run of the mill boring plastic pistol does not seem terribly productive to me. But I guess it make business sense or they wouldn't be doing it.
 
Seems like an interesting pistol, but it isn't anything unique to the market other than its a CZ and striker fired.
I would say that makes it rather unique. The only other CZ striker fired guns out there are the old CZ100 and CZ110's, which were long ago abandon. :D

The P10C has a leg up on the Glock in a couple of areas.

1) Price. At a MSRP of $500 that means we'll likely see them on shelves for $460 to $475 at some point down the road.
2) Ergonomics. The Glock is anything but ergonomic. Sure, they can be mastered but it doesn't change the fact they're one of the least ergonomic pistols on the market.
3) Trigger. The Glock has a bad trigger that is a step above the M&P, and that isn't saying much. Hopefully the production guns have the same trigger as the pre-production samples I was able to shoot.

The only striker fired pistol that seemed to have everything to me, at least initially, was the VP9. It was less expensive than other HK pistols, it has a good trigger and the ergonomics are very good. Sadly, the reliability in my experience isn't such that I feel comfortable carrying it. Hopefully the P10C has Glock like reliability.

The one pistol it faces stiff competition from, in terms of features, is the Walther PPQ. For whatever reason the PPQ hasn't gained the same attention from the market as the Glock, M&P and XD have. It is gaining steam, but it's not usually mentioned in the same sentence as the Glock, M&P and XD. This is kind of disappointing because the PPQ is easily one of the best striker fired pistols on the market. The P10C has only one advantage that I can see over the PPQ and that's the price.
 
My only question about it is, will Mec-gar make mags for it. Right now the downside to the P-07 and 09 is the factory mags and their higher prices, no Mec-gar alternatives. I will stick with the 75 variants until cheaper mags are readily available.
 
My only question about it is, will Mec-gar make mags for it. Right now the downside to the P-07 and 09 is the factory mags and their higher prices, no Mec-gar alternatives. I will stick with the 75 variants until cheaper mags are readily available.
I wouldn't hold my breath. The magazine prices will be the same as the P07/P09 pistols given the mags are identical sans one extra cut for the ambi-mag release.
 
Thanks for the video. If I were in the market for another striker gun, I'd consider this CZ.

I still can't stand the looks of the squared off trigger guard, though. Maybe it's better in use than in looks.
 
Very nice video sir. Jealous of that Czech Republic trip! The P-10C certainly is completely different from anything CZ has made before! As for poly CZs, I had a CZ-100, very interesting design ruined by the worst DAO trigger to ever hit the market, built to the specifications the purchasing country wanted, and then canceled the order after they were produced. I had one in 40. I have a CZ-75 SP-01 Phantom, outstanding sidearm, VERY happy with it! I also carry a CZ P-09, with Cajun Gun Works ProPackage upgrade, my sidearm of choice, fantastic sidearm. I am interested to try this new one out, radical shift that it is.
 
The one pistol it faces stiff competition from, in terms of features, is the Walther PPQ. For whatever reason the PPQ hasn't gained the same attention from the market as the Glock, M&P and XD have. It is gaining steam, but it's not usually mentioned in the same sentence as the Glock, M&P and XD. This is kind of disappointing because the PPQ is easily one of the best striker fired pistols on the market. The P10C has only one advantage that I can see over the PPQ and that's the price.

Yes, the whole reason we have this crazed clean breaking, short resetting striker trigger frenzy is because of the excellent ppq trigger. That gun revolutionized the striker fired trigger, but some believe it to be too clean and short resetting to the point of it being unsafe. Interesting that you mentioned this trigger will put the ppq trigger to shame, and if that's true then the too short and clean issue would even be more so for this gun. And those who don't like the ppq for those reasons would definitely not like the p10. As far as why people don't mention the ppq with the others is I think walther lacks in marketing like the others and some people put too much stock in the higher bore axis of the ppq. I have owned all the major players in striker fired handguns except the arsenal strike one and I think the ppq is the best out of the box. Also I think it's worth mentioning that this gun will almost definitely not fit in g19 kydex holsters. Hybrid or leather I can see, but the dimensions of the g19 and p07 are drastically different so if it's closer to the p07, full kydex holsters for the g19 are no bueno.
 
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I have a Phantom...you have no idea what you're missing. ;) Here it is with my other favorite polymer CZ, the P-09, the gun that is riding my hip right now.

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Interested to see what the P-10C brings to the table. The "C" label means to me that there is a full size P-10 lurking in the background...might make an eCZellent duty sidearm.
 
I'm really hoping Cz brings the sp01 phantom back with a special run. I know they just didn't scrap the tooling. That is one gun I truly regret not buying on several occasions
 
I shoot a 75 an 85 Combat, a 75 Compact , and my new favorite , PO1. I always wanted a a PCR and as said before, if I wanted a polymer one I would grab a Phantom. I will be patient and end up picking up a used one. If the new gun was designed around a 75 magazine, I would have considered it. Not bashing the new model. I love CZ.
 
The Phantom is returning full time next year. They didn't scrap the tooling - they were running the machines 24/7 to fill contracts. :)

What does the Phantom have over the P-9? They look pretty similar to me.
 
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