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Has a .50 BMG handgun ever been made?

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Molon Labe, Dec 27, 2004.

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  1. Molon Labe

    Molon Labe Member

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    There's an interesting discussion on this topic at the SDMB:

    http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=293627&page=1&pp=50

    While there appears to be a some grainy pics floating around of an alleged Maadi-Griffin .50 BMG handgun, and a few obvious fakes (see www.birdman.org), no one in the above thread has produced genuine documentation that a real, working .50 BMG handgun has ever existed.

    So here are my questions:

    1. Does anyone have any firsthand knowledge / documentation / proof that someone has manufactured a .50 BMG handgun?

    2. Does anyone have any firsthand knowledge / documentation / proof that someone has shot a .50 BMG handgun?
     
  2. 50 Shooter

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    Forgot to add that Birdman's Maadi Griffin was registered as a SBR (short barrel rifle).
     
  4. azrael

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    50 shooter,
    Couldnt the BATF excempt the 50ap rounds, kinda like they did with the ss109 .223 rounds?
     
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    I don't think so, it's made as AP. Isn't SS 109 just made with a steel core as part of the whole bullet to stabilize it? Might be able to get .50 BMG ball ammo exempt but it's still made with a solid steel core.

    While the .50 BMG pistol is a neat idea as far as different ideas go, it just seems like a waste. You'd have to download it alot or you'd be wasting alot of powder, plus the torque it would be putting on your wrist, muzzle flash... Of course I wouldn't mind shooting it atleast once. :D
     
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    I've held one, but like Birdman's it was technically registered as an SBR, though it wasn't wearing the stock at the time. Also had a suppressor that came with the package (or so I was told by the guy selling it). Salesman said that to his knowledge it had never been fired, but he was trying to get someone with .50BMG loading dies to make him some mild loads so he could try it.
     
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    No, the ATF must follow the law. "Armor piercing" ammo from the legal sense has nothing to do with its penetrating ability, but instead is linked to bullet construction and materials,

    http://assembler.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000921----000-.html
     
  9. larryw

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    Take a close look at Harry Tuttle's picture. See that lady's arm in the background? There were pictures and video shown in the booth of that same petite lady shooting MilSurp from that gun (complete with a 10 foot long fireball). :what:

    They were at the SHOT Show looking for a manufacturer, but I don't know what came of it (they got my vote for best of show). Very impressive nitrogen gas recoil system (rods at the bottom and you can see how the barrel slides in the receiver) made it seem manageable. That lever in the back is the rotating breech block for loading.

    ...I have more pictures of that around here somewhere...
     
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    Saw one built up from a Deuce barrel stub on a 1911 frame, with a long hammer and a huge muzzle brake. Wish I had a camera.

    He wouldn't let us shoot it, though. Meanie.





    Alex
     
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    thanks 50 and Southern...I was wondering about that...If I had a .50 I would most certainly be looking into reloading for it...

    It has to be only a matter of time, before someone makes a pistol for it and the Batmen declare the mil-surp stuff illegal..

    Would like to shoot one of those..well at least once.. :p
     
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    Can you all say "carpal tunnel surgery"? I knew that you could. ;)
     
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    Pappy JOhn,
    I hadnt even thought of that...With my arm messed up, I can't even use my 870 effectively much less a cannon like that...GRRRRRRRRRR! :cuss:
     
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    There is a company out of Ohio that makes some very large Caliber single shot Handguns. Check out the Encore cartridge offerings.

    Also check out the 14.5 mm JDJ rifle
    SSK has non Destructive Device exemption for a 14.5 MM (.585") cartridge.

    The 14.5 MM JDJ is based on the 50 BMG case. The neck is opened to accept the SSK 1173 grain bullet loaded over 235 grains of 5010 to fire form the case. Other bullets may become available in the near future.

    In the test rifle 100 yard accuracy hovers between .3 and .5" with this fireform load. Velocity is chronographed at 26--2700 feet per second with the 1173 grain bullet. My worst 300 yard three shot group with it is 1.509". The 750 Barnes is a real performer at 3000 FPS. Dies are in stock. Actions suitable for the 50 BMG are the ONLY ones that will take this cartridge.


    SSK Industries
     
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    I know they offer the 14.5mm in a rifle, they don't offer it in a pistol do they?
     
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    I live in missouri and my local TV station had a segment called "made in the heartland" and a couple years ago they did a report on someone in missouri who made custom bolt action .50 BMG guns and one was a pistol and they showed the man firing it on TV and it didn't kick that much; of course it was HUGE. I saw it on the internet too, it wasn't that hard to find.

    I saw something similar in a magazine too and if I remeber right it lost alot of velocity out of the shorter barrels.

    Tim
     
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    How bout this? :eek:
     
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    Stevie, where can I get that revolver??? I want one.
     
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    ive seen that pic of the revolver before, thats awesome. im glad someone posted it i wanted to save it. thanks
     
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    Not to spoil the fun, but ??WHY??

    Oh wait...cause we can.
     
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    The 50 BMG handgun was really worth the design time/effort. I can think of a thousand uses for it. :neener:
     
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    50BMG requires a 36"+ barrel to reach 2600fps or so. I can't imagine the velocity being anywhere near that in a pistol barrel, hence a big reason for the lighter recoil.

    The amount of unburned powder coming out of that pistol must be staggering...
     
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    Please forward 500USD via PayPal to my account for proof of existence of this gun, photos of its firing and complete reloading data. Photos of Venusian LEO firing it are extra. Inquire for particulars.
     
  25. tim71

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    Wow!

    Wow! Would that photo make liberals mad or what? I'd love to know more about that gun. Both for that matter. You can tell by looking at the photos it's not the same gun. Either one would be unbelievable. The pistol I was talking about was a big bolt action single. I had no idea that something like these revolvers existed.

    Tim
     
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