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Kimber TLE II Failure to go into battery after 500 rounds.
Sig p220 Carry SAS Failure to feed after 300 rounds
Sig p220 Carry SAS Failure to feed after 300 rounds
Has a gun that you've bought new ever broke?
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Barr
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Mossberg Silver Reserve quit resetting the hammer on the second barrel and the safety switch flew off of the gun after 350-400 rounds. Sent gun back to manufacturer and the same barrel quit resetting 200 rounds later. Got money back and bought a CZ Redhead.
crebralfix
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Let's see:
Phoenix HP22: 90 rounds
Kimber Tactical Ultra II 1911: <10 rounds; never functioned properly. Replacement had same problems
Springfield Ultra Compact 1911: Never functioned properly
Springfield Armory Loaded 1911: Problems after 1000-1200 rounds, replaced recoil spring--still failed
Glock 23: Channel liner broke after 2,000 rounds
SIG P220: Broken hammer return spring after a gazillion dry fires and 5,000 or 6,000 rounds. Broke again at 10,000. Easy fix.
Bushmaster standard 20" (not sure which model): Jamomatic. Never fed properly (tried every mag possible)
Bushmaster Carbon 15: Jamomatic. Never fed correctly (tried multiple mags)
Bushmaster M4gery: Yet another jamomatic. Shoulda learned from the first two.
Glock 19: Jammed a lot for first 200 rounds. Found a burr in the chamber; shot it until the gun worked.
Kahr K9: <100 rounds. Factory installed a NATO barrel for an American slide. Wedged shut on live round. Was exciting to send back to the factory.
Kahr PM9: Round somewhere between #200 and #220 cracked the frame.
I'm sure there are others I have broken, but this is what I can remember.
Phoenix HP22: 90 rounds
Kimber Tactical Ultra II 1911: <10 rounds; never functioned properly. Replacement had same problems
Springfield Ultra Compact 1911: Never functioned properly
Springfield Armory Loaded 1911: Problems after 1000-1200 rounds, replaced recoil spring--still failed
Glock 23: Channel liner broke after 2,000 rounds
SIG P220: Broken hammer return spring after a gazillion dry fires and 5,000 or 6,000 rounds. Broke again at 10,000. Easy fix.
Bushmaster standard 20" (not sure which model): Jamomatic. Never fed properly (tried every mag possible)
Bushmaster Carbon 15: Jamomatic. Never fed correctly (tried multiple mags)
Bushmaster M4gery: Yet another jamomatic. Shoulda learned from the first two.
Glock 19: Jammed a lot for first 200 rounds. Found a burr in the chamber; shot it until the gun worked.
Kahr K9: <100 rounds. Factory installed a NATO barrel for an American slide. Wedged shut on live round. Was exciting to send back to the factory.
Kahr PM9: Round somewhere between #200 and #220 cracked the frame.
I'm sure there are others I have broken, but this is what I can remember.
nero45acp
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S&W PPK .32acp : Broke after dry-firing it just a few times. Sent it back to them for repair, when it came back it broke again after just a few dry-fires. Never got a single round through it! I gave the POS away. I'll never spend another cent on a new S&W product.
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LIQUID SNAKE
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Yes, Taurus PT945. Every possible auto problem from the very beginning. I mean EVERY problem!
DrLaw
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Not an autoloader though.
Saw the thread, thought I would respond. The firing pin on my S&W Model 36 broke. S&W fixed it, no problem.
Notice how the majority of the problems here happened within the first 1000 rounds? That says to me something went wrong in the manufacturing process. For something to fail so soon, it's logical to think that there was a defect. Nothing can be done perfectly all the time. However, notice how the poll numbers drop off the higher you go in service. Think about the abuse that an autoloader takes during firing. Metal whipping around, slamming here and there. To see that there are less problems after the 1st 1000 means that there are some quality pieces floating around out there.
And we know from reading the praise posts here, that's true.
The Doc is out now.
Saw the thread, thought I would respond. The firing pin on my S&W Model 36 broke. S&W fixed it, no problem.
Notice how the majority of the problems here happened within the first 1000 rounds? That says to me something went wrong in the manufacturing process. For something to fail so soon, it's logical to think that there was a defect. Nothing can be done perfectly all the time. However, notice how the poll numbers drop off the higher you go in service. Think about the abuse that an autoloader takes during firing. Metal whipping around, slamming here and there. To see that there are less problems after the 1st 1000 means that there are some quality pieces floating around out there.
And we know from reading the praise posts here, that's true.
The Doc is out now.
Arroyo7
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My stainless Walther PPK/S (made by Smith & Wesson) threw its extractor sometime between 50 and 60 rounds from new. This just happened recently, and I've not had this pistol back to the range since the extractor was replaced.
Don
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The extractor broke on my mil-spec Springfield 1911 with about 300 rounds through it. Sent it back to Springfield, they replaced it free. About 300 rounds later, the plunger tube came loose from the frame, sent it back, they fixed it again, free, they paid shipping both ways. Great customer service, but I will never trust that gun for carry.
searcher451
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A Beretta Tomcat that I bought for the wife a year ago crapped out after 66 rounds. The trigger went kerflewy, and we also experienced ejection and feeding problems with every single one of the initial magazines that we ran through it to that point. Dealing with Beretta's "customer service" was an even worse experience. Two words: Never again.
Hostile Amish
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Walther pistols made in Germany by Walther are very high quality, but those made by Smith and Wesson (in the case of S&W-made P99's, SW99's or SW99's in .40) tend to be of lower quality and do break a bit easier (and have lower trigger quality).
My Kahr was broke before I took it out of the box. I was never able to get a magazine through it without 1 or 2 failures. Sent it back (on my nickle thanks to Kahr) and the problems just changed to not chambering on a round numerous times. It was history in short order. Took a big hit because I wouldn't hide the issues. Just glad it's gone.
Darthbauer
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Something broke on my Beretta 96 but that was due to it being dropped on asphalt.
wanderinwalker
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Don't ordinarily post in resurrected threads, but I have a Glock 17 that broke a frame rail after about 7500 rounds. Now this is one of the dreaded E-series pistols, manufactured in 2002. I don't think the broken rail rendered the pistol completely inoperable; I just discovered it during routine cleaning. For all I know, it seperated at the firing range. Glock made it right for me though (new frame), and won a customer for life.
And there was a recoil spring/guide rod assembly on a Walther P-99 that parted after about 300 rounds, this time while reassembling after cleaning. This one may have been operator induced, but the replacement was in the gun when traded, so who knows.
And there was a recoil spring/guide rod assembly on a Walther P-99 that parted after about 300 rounds, this time while reassembling after cleaning. This one may have been operator induced, but the replacement was in the gun when traded, so who knows.
Treo
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I drove over an M-16 W/ an M110A2 tracked howitzer once. No idea how many rounds and I didn't buy it until AFTER it was broke does that count?
mljdeckard
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One word says it all SIGMA.
A friend of mine recently special ordered a customized Para-Ordnance, and the slide had been squeezed so tight in a vise (probably when they installed the night sights) that it was out of spec, the guide rod was jammed inside and we couldn't field-strip it. It went back to the factory.
A friend of mine recently special ordered a customized Para-Ordnance, and the slide had been squeezed so tight in a vise (probably when they installed the night sights) that it was out of spec, the guide rod was jammed inside and we couldn't field-strip it. It went back to the factory.
herohog
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AR-7 "Survival" .22 bought new in late 70's. First time out, I loaded the magazine, took a bead on the target and slowly squeezed the trigger... brap! She fired 2 or 3 rounds! I next pulled the trigger fast and firm. Result? It fires on the pull AND the release! If you held the trigger in it's "sweet spot" it would fire until it either jammed or ran out of ammo! 
The trigger in the AR-7 is a simple double catch system that depends on very precise dimensions to work properly. If one of the catches is out of spec, it turns into a slam-firring jam-O-matic. 
Threw it back in the box an traded it back to the dealer plus some cash for a new 10/22. Much happiness followed!
She fired 2 or 3 rounds! I next pulled the trigger fast and firm. Result? It fires on the pull AND the release! If you held the trigger in it's "sweet spot" it would fire until it either jammed or ran out of ammo! The trigger in the AR-7 is a simple double catch system that depends on very precise dimensions to work properly. If one of the catches is out of spec, it turns into a slam-firring jam-O-matic. Threw it back in the box an traded it back to the dealer plus some cash for a new 10/22. Much happiness followed! Baneblade
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These were all bought new and had under 1000 rounds fired
HK USP 45, trigger broke
Walther P22 X2
Ruger MKIII, Magazine disconect
Marlin 22 rifle, return spring
Kimber Pro Covert II, bad feed ramp, shipped with the wrong recoil spring, needed a different extractor, magazine was thrown over a burm
Chales Daly Semi auto 12 guage, a plastic bushing mushroomed out after 20 shells.
Stoeger pump 12 guage, shipped with a bent feed spoon
And the worst, a Colt Gunsite 1911. Both sights fell off with less than 200 rounds. The slide was improperly machined.
The only guns I have owned that are 100%.... Glocks.
HK USP 45, trigger broke
Walther P22 X2
Ruger MKIII, Magazine disconect
Marlin 22 rifle, return spring
Kimber Pro Covert II, bad feed ramp, shipped with the wrong recoil spring, needed a different extractor, magazine was thrown over a burm
Chales Daly Semi auto 12 guage, a plastic bushing mushroomed out after 20 shells.
Stoeger pump 12 guage, shipped with a bent feed spoon
And the worst, a Colt Gunsite 1911. Both sights fell off with less than 200 rounds. The slide was improperly machined.
The only guns I have owned that are 100%.... Glocks.
PcolaDawg
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Bought a Taurus judge a month and a half ago and blew the barrel off with the first shot.
Took it back to the gun shop that day, and it has since come back and I've had no problems with it.
I've had no problems (so far) with my other handguns:
S&W Model 642
S&W Model 625JM
Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry II
Ruger SR9
Also, I've never had any problems with my rifles (Browning and Marlin) or shotguns (Remington).
Took it back to the gun shop that day, and it has since come back and I've had no problems with it.
I've had no problems (so far) with my other handguns:
S&W Model 642
S&W Model 625JM
Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry II
Ruger SR9
Also, I've never had any problems with my rifles (Browning and Marlin) or shotguns (Remington).
rscalzo
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Front sights drifted off in both a S&W 4013TSW and a Springfield 1911. Both repaired under warrenty.
commygun
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I've had a S&W 411, a Beretta 950BS, a NAA .32 Guardian, an AMT DAO .45ACP Back-Up and (Gomer Pyle voice) surprise, surprise, a Lorcin .380 that were all defective right out of the box. S&W, NAA and Beretta fixed their guns and I fixed the other two.
wickedsprint
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Rear sight fell off a brand new Colt series 70 re-issue...put on new sight.
Ruger Super Blackhawk Hunter and Super Redhawk Alaskan both came with severely off milled/crooked frames. Ruger replaced both revolvers and replacements were perfect.
Winchester Model 70 came with Front sight drilled crooked.
I have mixed luck with buying guns sight unseen.
Ruger Super Blackhawk Hunter and Super Redhawk Alaskan both came with severely off milled/crooked frames. Ruger replaced both revolvers and replacements were perfect.
Winchester Model 70 came with Front sight drilled crooked.
I have mixed luck with buying guns sight unseen.
BrandonBowers
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Never had a firearm break on me (knock on wood).
Did have a couple unfired 454 rounds jump crimp and lock up my SuperRedhawk once. After that I learned to judge exactly where to crimp them. No problems since.
Did have a couple unfired 454 rounds jump crimp and lock up my SuperRedhawk once. After that I learned to judge exactly where to crimp them. No problems since.
This is the forth post in this thread about a Beretta Tomcat. My first two broke, and I have #3 now, but I don't dare practice with it. Beretta did replace those first two, but they weren't too nice or speedy about it. You'd think these manufacturers would be smart enough to know that their customers share their experiences on these forums. Duh! I find that surprising too, because Italians are masters of human relationships. I'll never buy another Beretta.
Just look at Ruger by comparison. They proactively launched a recall on their SR9s, owning up to their mistake, and making good on it. I'd bet every SR9 owner is now a lifetime Ruger customer.
Just look at Ruger by comparison. They proactively launched a recall on their SR9s, owning up to their mistake, and making good on it. I'd bet every SR9 owner is now a lifetime Ruger customer.
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