has anybody else noticed mossberg...

[HOOfan_1]

To quote one of my favorite shows

"Your social security check's bounced. Stuff cost more than it used to. Young people use curse words. "...some gun companies make stuff that won't be your cup of tea...

I will continue to buy Mossberg shotguns. IMO they are still the best bet for a low cost and solid performing pump or auto shotgun.

 

[CSestp]

In the contract all gun stores that carry the "chainsaw" have to test the would be buyer of this firearm. The test includes performing a front flip while firing two rounds in mid air at the same time throwing a throwing star.

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[788Ham]

As a kid I wouldn't have wanted anything like that in my toy box, even if it threw sparks when you pulled the trigger. I'll stick with the blued steel and dark wood stocks, thank you, wouldn't be ashamed to show it then!

 

[mattmann]

For some reason these remind me of the typed of cars I laugh at. You know the ones. The ones with every single sticker decal and bolt on part from there local AutoZone or Napa??

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[hang fire]

Today, 05:55 AM #17
bikerdoc
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Ditto bikerdoc, so long as they continue to make and sell the old standard 500. I could care less where they go thither.

 

[Kachok]

What on earth is so wrong with a tactical chainsaw 30-30? It would be hella useful at fighting back the zombie hordes and........well.........I guess that is about it LAMO! I cannot help but think of bad zombie movies every time I look at that rediculous thing. Same they don't make Z-Max in 30-30 I have to put that on my top 10 worst ideas ever list, right up there with the solar powered flashlight and nuclear hand grenade.

 

[ccsniper]

I wish quality gun companies were as quick to respond to the wishes of their customer base as Mossberg is. Like em' or not, they are building products tha sell and getting more people into guns. How many more manufacturers of bland firearms do we need? Let them roll out some off the wall stuff, I'm glad they have the kahonies to do it.

The customer base they are responding to are people we real gun enthusiasts are ashamed of. Mall Ninja's give us a bad name when they run around making EVERYTHING into some sort of tactical doo hickey. These are people we don't want buying firearms till they have grown up and stopped playing Call of Duty so much.

 

[Kachok]

These are people we don't want buying firearms till they have grown up and stopped playing Call of Duty so much.

Hey now watch it, stepping on some toes there

 

[ccsniper]

Same they don't make Z-Max in 30-30 I have to put that on my top 10 worst ideas ever list, right up there with the solar powered flashlight and nuclear hand grenade.

I am actually think they do make z max in 3030

 

[Kachok]

OMG you are right they do!! Well now I just have to go get one so I am ready for the Zombie Apocalypse. LMAO! What is next a tactical sawed off shotgun? Wait I probably should not give them any more ideas

 

[foghornl]

Mossberg has offered some ahhhhhhhh "Unusual" guns of late.

But for a good functional pump shotgun at a reasonable price, hard to beat the plain vanilla 500 or Maverick 88.

 

[tahunua001]

you have to admit that they are trying new things. gun makers have been struggling to sell the levergun for a while now. tube magazines limit the ammo options and with some you can't even mount a scope. add the fact that bolt guns are more reliable and accurate and they just can't compete anymore. the only people that buy a lever gun anymore are the people that just want a nostalgic design. mossberg is the first company in a long time to add a new concept to the lever design in a while. they went about it in a poor and ugly way but they made the first step that got other companies moving.

if I was going to put 3 rails on a lever gun then I would put 1 on top and 1 on each side, adding to comfort and giving you the option to mount optics, the 646 did not go that route and instead placed the rails on the sides and the bottom, making it uncomfortable to hold and still forces you to use the open sights.

if I wanted a lightweight synthetic buttstock that collapses for storage, I would have chosen a folding stock rather than that gawdawful telescoping stock. the skeleton stock would be able to hold that old lever gun shape while still being able to fold for easy storage.

and lastly, I would have gone with a box mag and gotten rid of the tube magazine, opening the door to the tactical mall ninjas that need their 223, 7.62x39, 308 and all the other tactical wildcat rounds in the 6.5-30 cal range.

marlin is now offering 12 inch 1913 rails for their leverguns, allowing for addition of optics and giving the next generation of future mall ninjas something to ogle in the stores other than what they see on Call Of Duty.

would I ever buy a 646 SPX? nope.
would I say that mossberg had no business making such a gun? nope.

 

[Awsomepossum]

"red dot sight and a flashlight mount and this would have been my perfect spotlighting rifle."

I might just have to buy one of these levers actions and turn it into an hog hunting rifle. That is the perfect idea.

 

[Jeff F]

And they really mean it, too.

Tactical wallets. Tactical socks. Tactical underwear.
No, I'm not joking. Google tactical underwear.

But the thing is, take a product and add the word "tactical" to it, increase it's price by 20% or more, and watch it fly off the shelves.

You left out the tactical wheelbarrow.

 

[TurtlePhish]

You left out the tactical wheelbarrow.

And tactical mug.

 

[Buck Kramer]

^^^and bacon, oh wait.

 

[tahunua001]

google tactical duty kilt... everything can be tactical if someone is gullible enough to believe you

 

[HOOfan_1]

The customer base they are responding to are people we real gun enthusiasts are ashamed of..

so you apparently think you speak for the "real gun enthusiasts?"

The only people who actually separate out the "real gun enthusiasts" from the mall ninjas are ....gun enthusiasts. The outside world probably has no idea what a mall ninja is and probably looks on "mall ninjas" the same as they look on collectors of Smith and Wesson revolvers, cowboy action shooters and war reenactors. That is to say, the antis probably think they are all mentally unstable and the people that can mind their own business don't care at all what type of guns people collect.

Sorry, when "gun enthusiasts" start looking down on and labeling other gun owners for the way they enjoy the hobby, then all "gun enthusiasts" lose.

 

[Bushpilot]

I HATE the word "Tactical".

+1 TrickyDick

The Mossberg SPX line of rifles are the most ridicules looking things I've ever seen. I'm looking forward to this "tactical" fad passing.... When it does finally end people won’t be able to give those Mossbergs away.

 

[goon]

I don't understand why they feel the need to stick those insane useless muzzlebrakes on everything. They are entirely ugly, serve no purpose, and only add unnecessary weight and cost.

 

[spoogie]

yes, it does exist!



-S

 

[Bushpilot]

Sorry, when "gun enthusiasts" start looking down on and labeling other gun owners for the way they enjoy the hobby, then all "gun enthusiasts" lose.

so you apparently think you speak for the "real gun enthusiasts?"

Nonsense.. politically correct rhetoric.. While a member of a group may not speak for the group as a whole, in this case they certainly speak for a sizable faction. It is far better to hear and express all opinions freely and let the readers or listener judge for themselves than to try and suggest that they be silent for the sake of some imaginary benefit to be gained from the perception of group unity.

 

[HOOfan_1]

Nonsense.. politically correct rhetoric.. While a member of a group may not speak for the group as a whole, in this case they certainly speak for a sizable faction. It is far better to hear and express all opinions freely and let the readers or listener judge for themselves than to try and suggest that they be silent for the sake of some imaginary benefit to be gained from the perception of group unity.

Yup, Jim Zumbo expressed his opinion, pissed off a "sizable faction" and got fired.

I didn't say he can't express his opinion, but when he ridicules a portion of the gun owning world, then I am going to ridicule his opinion.

Why is it so hard to say "this isn't my cup of tea so I won't be buying any of it" and move on. What is the point in saying they need to "grow up"? "Mall Ninja"..."Fudd" I didn't think either of those terms were received well on "The High Road".

 

[tahunua001]

this is an interesting thread...
1. OP starts by bashing gun company.
2. members chime in and shift the focus towards a particular model.
3. focus shifts to the excessive and abusive use of the word tactical by today's marketing groups.
4. guns enthusiasts cast other enthusiasts in a poor light shifting the focus on who has the right to be called "the real gun enthusiasts".
I foresee this thread being shut down very soon but in the mean time.

when I refer to mall ninjas I do not mean that negatively or say so with a derogatory fashion. I see a group of people that are GENERALLY so caught up with battlefield tactics and the art of urban warfare that you expect to find a walk in gun vault hidden underneath their tool shed when you come over to borrow a hammer. I view them in the same light as I very cowboy action shooters, muzzle stuffers, and your friendly neighborhood snipers. all of these groups are distinct cliques within the gun enthusiast genre but each is not necessarily bad unless people start thinking that they are superior because they don't have a shred of plastic in their gun safe or because every one of their guns has either melonite or chrome down the barrel.

I for one, have made the trip from mall ninja to C&R collector and love nothing more than to break the muzzle loaders out with my brothers during the big family holidays. I've shot and loved lever actions, break opens, semi autos, bolts, wood stock, plastic stock, stainless, steel, and aluminum. there is no wrong group of gun lovers out there, the only people that are wrong are the ones who start bickering over who is better because of how they enjoy the hobby.

 

[Diggers]

+1 Bushpilot.

Besides if gun owners didn't argue amongst ourselves then there would be no gun forums....

That is one ugly and wrong looking gun! There is NO WAY anyone will be able to resell that thing.

Lever actions are to be wood and blued, even SS is pushing it IMO.

What next? A tactical Kentucky rifle??

It is funny how the gun community forgets gun makers make guns to make $$ and NOT in it to produce a weapon that is actually "better" in any qualifying way.

If they could sell a bunch of guns with bent barrels that miss fired every 3rd shot, they would make them...and call the gun tactical if it help sell them.

BTW I've nothing against them for that if its how they stay in business. I just won't be buying one of "those" guns from them.