Has anyone had this advice given to them?

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No no no.. I may have confused some people .. The land isn't his .. I was stating that he had his OWN deer lease .. So I wouldn't have to worry about him .. The land we were on belong to someone else.. Sorry for the confusion..
 
Anybody want to post the 50 cal ricochet video?

I've had a 22 round come back from a tree and bounce off my glasses. Had a 40 S&W land at my feet shooting at a stump. Maybe he had his own litlte experience with a ricochet from a tree?
 
What goes up, must come down.

I've never heard of anyone being advised to fire into the air before.:eek: That is about the strangest, dumbest thing I ever heard. Good on 'ya for not doing it.
 
Do not shoot a solid-projectile weapon into the air, unless you are the "gunner" on an anti-aircraft battery.
 
Don't shoot at a stump and don't shoot in the air. Especially don't shoot in the air. That SKS round can go a long, long ways. Google "Noble Oklahoma police officers" and you will find officers on trial for manslaughter for firing their pistols in the air at a snake and hitting a little boy some distance away.
 
In all my life, I have NEVER heard anyone say that-- even those twins I used to know that took turns firing an arrow straight up between themselves to see who would "chicken out" first.
Hey! You knew them too. Naw, must have been other twins.
 
Don't shoot at a stump and don't shoot in the air. Especially don't shoot in the air. That SKS round can go a long, long ways. Google "Noble Oklahoma police officers" and you will find officers on trial for manslaughter for firing their pistols in the air at a snake and hitting a little boy some distance away.

Where do I shoot then when I am out in the woods?
 
Every box of .22 ammunition I've ever seen, since I was a wee lad oh so long ago, has said "Range one mile - be careful" somewhere on it. God only knows what the range is for a 7.62x39 round that's actually fired UPWARD to put it into near-orbit.

To borrow a phrase from my favorite cartoon rabbit, "Eh ... what a maroon!"
 
TNIETO 2004 - "I should have said something but to be quite honest, I will most likely never be shooting with him again..."


Wisest thing you could do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guy's a severe danger, to others, and you! :fire:

L.W.
 
Well, I took a pretty good chuck of a bullets jacket on the knuckle shooting steel plate over the weekend... But I'll take that any day of the week and twice on sunday over putting rounds into ballistic trajectories. The only thing going up in the air should be AA and shotguns, with the occassional .22 when we know it's going to be landing well inside our property (poachers can catch one in the head for all we care).
 
My four year old and I discuss this concept; knowing your target and what is beyond it. Yes, in many areas the odds are almost beyond small of hurting anyone by shooting in the air--but I don't want to buy a ticket to winning the death lottery for some one else.
 
First, I'll admit that I skipped the majority of the thread...

GUYS, USE COMMON SENSE. Just because the guy is your girlfriend's uncle, and presumably older, doesn't mean that he is either smarter or wiser... That's where Junior shoulda 'splained to the dumbbutt that gravity sucks, and what goes up must come down. Sounds like the fellow is one of those folks who knows everything, and assumes (my DI had a saying about that...) that everyone else on the planet is a moron...
 
According to the JBM Ballistics calculator, a 122gr 7.62x39mm JHP (ballistic coefficient 0.2607) fired at an angle of 30 degrees above the horizon will come down 3260.0 yds away. That's over 1.8 miles. Impact will occur nearly 24 seconds (!) after the shot is fired. If you live well above sea level or are using heavier bullets, it would likely go further than that.

When it comes down, it will be descending very steeply (62 degrees) and traveling 350 ft/sec, meaning it could still inflict a fatal wound to an animal, child, or adult if they were standing out in the open and were unlucky enough to get hit with the negligently fired round.

Your uncle is flat wrong, and I sure as heck hope that there isn't any occupied territory downrange.

The only way his advice could be construed as possibly making any sense whatsoever is if someone once told him that about shooting a shotgun with birdshot while hunting, and he doesn't know enough to know that that advice would apply ONLY to shotguns using birdshot.

http://www.eskimo.com/~jbm/calculations/calculations.html

JBM Maximum Distance Output
Input Data

Ballistic Coefficient: 0.261 G1
Bullet Weight: 123.00 gr
Muzzle Velocity: 2350.0 ft/s
Temperature: 59.00 °F
Pressure: 29.92 in Hg
Humidity: 0.0 %
Altitude: 0 ft
Std. Atmosphere at Altitude: No
Corrected Pressure: Yes

Calculated Parameters
Atmospheric Density: 0.07647 lbs/ft³
Speed of Sound: 1116.5 ft/s
Initial Angle: 30.0 deg
Terminal Angle: 62.3 deg
Terminal Range: 3260.0 yds
Terminal Velocity: 350.2 ft/s
Terminal Time: 23.989 s
Terminal Energy: 33.5 ft•lbs
 
Maybe he was just advocating small targets (the limbs at the tops of trees instead of the stump) and his advice had nothing to do with safety.
 
He explained to me that shooting level would be unsafe due to the fact that bullets travel a long way and could hit someone level to you ..
 
Where do I shoot then when I am out in the woods?

Whereever. Just not at wood. See post by paramedic7002. Once a bullet hits/enters the wood there's no telling where it's going to exit... and proceed to from there.
 
"He explained to me that shooting level would be unsafe due to the fact that bullets travel a long way and could hit someone level to you .."

So shooting it up in the air where it can go even farther is safer?
In that case, he's an idiot...
 
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