I plan to send my Glock 26 in for some custom work to Robar as soon as I sell a rifle. Has anyone here had any experience with this company? The gun rags have had good things to say about Robar, but I'd like to get some unbiased opinions.
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Has anyone here had Robar do any work for them?
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Prodigalshooter
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Well, my opinion is biased, I like their work. I had my Springfield Roguard/NP3'd last year and I'm very pleased with the results. Trigger is better, clean-up is easier, action is slicker and it looks much nicer than it did (was all SS). Price was pretty reasonable too, as I got it done when they were having a special, 20% off.
About the only downside is being w/o your pistol for a month or so
. You won't realize how much you'll miss it till it's been out there a couple of weeks or so!
I only wish I'd had the stippling done on the front strap, I got cheap at the last minute, duh.
About the only downside is being w/o your pistol for a month or so
. You won't realize how much you'll miss it till it's been out there a couple of weeks or so! I only wish I'd had the stippling done on the front strap, I got cheap at the last minute, duh.
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Master Blaster
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Just curious, what kind of work are you having done on a G-26?
Mine had every custom feature already on it out of the box, except maybe better steel sights.
Mine had every custom feature already on it out of the box, except maybe better steel sights.
www.robarguns.com is a top rate company. They have always provided excellent customer service in my experience. Turn around time is also excellent. Robbie Barrkman is well respected and down-to-earth. If you have any reservations about Robar, don't...you won't be disappointed.
Just curious about ....
...Robar's NP3 refinishing service.
I've seen their NP3 work on Glock slides. But does anyone know if Robar has done this NP3 treatment to 3rd Gen stainless steel S&Ws? Anyone had it done on their 3rd Gen Smith? If so, how was the result? Turn-around time? Any customer-service issues?
Thanks.
...Robar's NP3 refinishing service.
I've seen their NP3 work on Glock slides. But does anyone know if Robar has done this NP3 treatment to 3rd Gen stainless steel S&Ws? Anyone had it done on their 3rd Gen Smith? If so, how was the result? Turn-around time? Any customer-service issues?
Thanks.
I am looking at getting a grip reduction done on my G26. Yeah, I know the grip is pretty small already, but I want that hump at the bottom rear of the grip taken off. In an e-mail, they said they could reduce the size by 1/4", which should be just about perfect for me. Other than that, I think the little thing is darn-near perfect straight from the box.
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PT-Partners
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This is a first time post for me here so I am new to this crowd and its readers. I specialize in the custom 1911's, BHP's and dabble in the custom Glock. Yes, I am one of those FFL who try to make money at this.
I have had about 20 guns done by and through Robar to include the grip reductions, other work, as well as what used to be called the Norton Package of NP3 on two SIG's (which I still carry for duty 12, years) and about 9 grip reductions to date. No experience with any of the S&W auto's.
Service is timely. Work always has been satisfactory to the customer who sent through me. My two SIGs were good. The customers of the 1911's were also satisfied as well as two BHP's. Would I use Robar again: from the work I have seen on Glocks and SIG's; yes.
If you want a Zip file or two or three or four of pictures I still have some of a Glock 21, and two Glock 19's with about 30 pictures total. I also have pictures of my back up P228 after 12 years holster wear and yes, all finishes wear if the gun is used as a tool of the trade and there is life other than a gun rug.
Please send an email address OFF LINE and please have an email account that will receive them. It has been my experience that most free accounts (hotmail for example) have limited storage for more that two or three pictures and and the email is rejected as too large.
Hope this helps.
I have had about 20 guns done by and through Robar to include the grip reductions, other work, as well as what used to be called the Norton Package of NP3 on two SIG's (which I still carry for duty 12, years) and about 9 grip reductions to date. No experience with any of the S&W auto's.
Service is timely. Work always has been satisfactory to the customer who sent through me. My two SIGs were good. The customers of the 1911's were also satisfied as well as two BHP's. Would I use Robar again: from the work I have seen on Glocks and SIG's; yes.
If you want a Zip file or two or three or four of pictures I still have some of a Glock 21, and two Glock 19's with about 30 pictures total. I also have pictures of my back up P228 after 12 years holster wear and yes, all finishes wear if the gun is used as a tool of the trade and there is life other than a gun rug.
Please send an email address OFF LINE and please have an email account that will receive them. It has been my experience that most free accounts (hotmail for example) have limited storage for more that two or three pictures and and the email is rejected as too large.
Hope this helps.
Walt Sherrill
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I've never anything but GOOD stuff about Robar. The only criticisms have been the costs.
A less expensive alternative -- but apparently every bit the match in quality -- is Mark Graham at Arizona Response Systems. (Mark worked with Robar but they apparently had a fallling out.) Mark uses similar methods and technology to get similar (or, as he claims, superior) results.
Several of my shooting buddies have had guns done by Mark, as have many on the SIG List. They really like the results.
http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com
Check the photo gallery. Mark is also a top-notch gunsmith. He is a Hi-Power specialist and also does Glock grip reductions.
A less expensive alternative -- but apparently every bit the match in quality -- is Mark Graham at Arizona Response Systems. (Mark worked with Robar but they apparently had a fallling out.) Mark uses similar methods and technology to get similar (or, as he claims, superior) results.
Several of my shooting buddies have had guns done by Mark, as have many on the SIG List. They really like the results.
http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com
Check the photo gallery. Mark is also a top-notch gunsmith. He is a Hi-Power specialist and also does Glock grip reductions.
Mastrogiacomo
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This is really amazing because I was just going to ask about this company. I have two Beretta compacts -- one in Black and the other in Inox. I wanted a Black protective finish for one and a nickel finish applied to the other. Robar said it was do-able. I'd be missing them for a while and the cost is roughly $25-260 each if I remember right. Just under the three hundred mark anyway I'm sure given the shipping cost. Has anyone had complaints about peeling, or flaking? What about with the nickel finishes? I hear the nickel is a soft metal. Anyone with complaints about nickel finishes on their guns peeling or showing signs of discoloration over time? How does Arizona Response compare in price and the quality of the work? Thanks.
ambidextrous1
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I had a Firestar refinished by Robar in NP3 about four years ago, and it has held up very well. I think this is an ideal finish for a carry gun. Be sure to send a couple of magazines along for the same treatment.
Yeah, Robar ain't cheap - but do you really want cheap?
Yeah, Robar ain't cheap - but do you really want cheap?
farscott
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I have had several guns go through Robar, including a Colt Commander, an S&W 28-2, an S&W 19-7, a Ruger SP-101, and an H&K P7. I have been very pleased with their work. The Commander project involved lots of 'smithing and the NP3 refinish. It is one heck of a pistol. The others involved less work, but the results were top drawer.
Great people. Highly recommended. Turnaround time for me was around three months.
Great people. Highly recommended. Turnaround time for me was around three months.
Prodigalshooter
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I'm in the process of searching for a Commander size .45 and when I find it, there is a good chance it's going to Robar for some work. I think this time I'll have the stippling done on the front strap and the outside done in all black Roguard, with the internals
done in NP3.
done in NP3.
Mastrogiacomo
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Is there an advantage to the internals done in NP3 or is it just the look?
ambidextrous1
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The NP3 has an inherent lubricity without the benefit of lube. I believe it's hard chrome, infused with teflon. In any event, you end up with a light gray plated finish that's slick. Of course, I oil the mating parts, just to be sure everything is up to snuff.
PT-Partners
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I had what was called the Norton Package done on a SIG P226 and P228 which I have carried for about 11 years on one and 12 on the other.
The action seems or is smoother and cleaner after the plating.
The Norton package at that time plated all of the steel or internals.
Something in what I just mentioned is another reason to keep Robar in mind. Robar is still in business after 12 years which is one reason for sure to keep them in mind.
Remember. Robar may be at a higher price point but the chances of Robar being there tomorrow are a little better if you would have some question further down the road. I do not swear by Robar and Robar may not be the "best price" but it is a good value for the price point and has served me and my clients well.
Best price is more often than not the best value. Look for value and not price. I do not mean the highest price is the way to go but look for the value in the lnog term. I certainly do not want a sub minimum wage sub minimum intellect and experience gunsmith to work on my duty piece. Just a thought.
The action seems or is smoother and cleaner after the plating.
The Norton package at that time plated all of the steel or internals.
Something in what I just mentioned is another reason to keep Robar in mind. Robar is still in business after 12 years which is one reason for sure to keep them in mind.
Remember. Robar may be at a higher price point but the chances of Robar being there tomorrow are a little better if you would have some question further down the road. I do not swear by Robar and Robar may not be the "best price" but it is a good value for the price point and has served me and my clients well.
Best price is more often than not the best value. Look for value and not price. I do not mean the highest price is the way to go but look for the value in the lnog term. I certainly do not want a sub minimum wage sub minimum intellect and experience gunsmith to work on my duty piece. Just a thought.
I have had four guns go through robar.
A Ruger MK2 for some light custom work and np3
A Ithica 87 riot gun that needed reparkerized and special sight made for it.
Cylinder and slide sent my adventurer to them for np3.
and I have a HKP7M8 in right now for np3.
I have nothing but praise for them. They have been faster than most places and nothing but top notch. My P7 was supposed to be back on the 10th and it will not be back to the middle of next week. But they have only had it for a litttle over a month and a half and with the christmas holiday and all it is not back as soon as they thought. And this is the first time they have have ever delayed me they usually beat their estimated delivery times.
In regards to np3. I may be a little biased becuse I think it is the wonderfinish. Even though I often prefer the asthetics of the old colt blue, I have found nothing that holds up like np3. Some of the advantages are:
No need for lube between to np3 coated parts (teflon impregnated)
You can clean everthing with no scrubbing and just a paper towel
I have yet to see anyone who has had np3 where through and I think if it does they recoat it for free.
Does not flake like hard crome can.
My carry 1911 has had it for 8 years is has smoothed out a little at the nose giving it a shiney appearance but not worn through. Has been through 30,000 or more holster presentations. And the gun has been shot extensively.
A Ruger MK2 for some light custom work and np3
A Ithica 87 riot gun that needed reparkerized and special sight made for it.
Cylinder and slide sent my adventurer to them for np3.
and I have a HKP7M8 in right now for np3.
I have nothing but praise for them. They have been faster than most places and nothing but top notch. My P7 was supposed to be back on the 10th and it will not be back to the middle of next week. But they have only had it for a litttle over a month and a half and with the christmas holiday and all it is not back as soon as they thought. And this is the first time they have have ever delayed me they usually beat their estimated delivery times.
In regards to np3. I may be a little biased becuse I think it is the wonderfinish. Even though I often prefer the asthetics of the old colt blue, I have found nothing that holds up like np3. Some of the advantages are:
No need for lube between to np3 coated parts (teflon impregnated)
You can clean everthing with no scrubbing and just a paper towel
I have yet to see anyone who has had np3 where through and I think if it does they recoat it for free.
Does not flake like hard crome can.
My carry 1911 has had it for 8 years is has smoothed out a little at the nose giving it a shiney appearance but not worn through. Has been through 30,000 or more holster presentations. And the gun has been shot extensively.
Click the link in my sig line. There are two errors in it. First, the Novaks were not Roguarded, they were black phosphated or something. The second error is that my hammer is not Roguard over NP3 but Roguard over carbon steel. My recommendation is that you NP3 any friction bearing surfaces. When my Roguard wears off the slide, if it ever does, I will resubmit my pistol to Robar and get the whole gun NP3'd except for a match barrel in stainless, which I would have them or someone else jewel. Then I would get some Ahrends gabbon ebony grips engraved with my initials and inlaid in platnium or something.
NP3 is the most functional "pimping" I have ever run across. I like it better than chrome for lubricity and uniformity of appearance, all the while acknowledging that the NP3 is not as tough as industrial hard chrome.
NP3 is the most functional "pimping" I have ever run across. I like it better than chrome for lubricity and uniformity of appearance, all the while acknowledging that the NP3 is not as tough as industrial hard chrome.
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