allaroundhunter
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On the family farm I have had to draw and fire on an aggressive dog. I have never had to fire on another person, however, and don't ever want to be put in the position that I need to.
Have you ever had to pull your carry gun
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NoAlibi
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An associate of mine suspected that his wife was having an affair. A telephone call to him at his clinic by the PI he hired apprised him that his wife was in the bedroom of his home with her lover as they spoke.
He armed himself with a handgun, only in the event that his wife's lover was armed with something other than his manhood, and he went home.
When he confronted the pair, the lover begged him not to shoot. He told him, "I'm not going to shoot you; I'm going to do worse...I'm going to let you have her!"
The aftermath of the divorce would make you think that he was the offending party.
An associate of mine suspected that his wife was having an affair. A telephone call to him at his clinic by the PI he hired apprised him that his wife was in the bedroom of his home with her lover as they spoke.
He armed himself with a handgun, only in the event that his wife's lover was armed with something other than his manhood, and he went home.
When he confronted the pair, the lover begged him not to shoot. He told him, "I'm not going to shoot you; I'm going to do worse...I'm going to let you have her!"
The aftermath of the divorce would make you think that he was the offending party.
Dr Dave
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Yes. Wasn't fun.
CollinLeon
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Given the choice of being shot or being the one shooting, trust me, being shot is a lot less fun... Adrenaline-wise, they're probably about the same... All in all though, I kind of prefer to end the day with the same amount of blood that I started with... I haven't always managed that during my life, but I figure it is a good goal to shoot for... (no pun intended)...
I stabbed a dog once on the side of a highway when I was a teenager. I was approached by 2 large strays. Another time crackheads rang my doorbell and I didn't answer. They went to my bedroom window and talked about breaking in. I cocked my shotgun and they left. A month later I was robbed when I was away. Last incident I didn't have a gun but almosy pulled my knife on a guy. I won't go into details but I was able to talk my way out of the situation. Very very scary times and I am thankful I am okay.
two gun charlie
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yes , once I dropped my cellphone while jogging , when i realised it, I jogged back and found it , but 9 drunk "men" in a pick-up just happenned to pass by while I was heading toward picking it up and they reckoned they had a claim to it. I reckoned they did not.
they were 9 , drunk and willing to get violent , making it quite clear verbally , but I had the gun .......
I drew it , kept it pointing at the ground , and calmly told them that it was my phone and I was not in the mood for an argument about it , they quickly apoligised for their bad behaviour , I told them not to worry about it , and we all went our merry way.
I went to my good friend the local station commander and reported the event just because that is a good policy in this part of the world .
btw , I live outside the US , and our circumstances are completely different , so keep that in mind , always be aware of your local laws .
" I would rather be judged by 12 than brutally assaulted by six "
they were 9 , drunk and willing to get violent , making it quite clear verbally , but I had the gun .......
I drew it , kept it pointing at the ground , and calmly told them that it was my phone and I was not in the mood for an argument about it , they quickly apoligised for their bad behaviour , I told them not to worry about it , and we all went our merry way.
I went to my good friend the local station commander and reported the event just because that is a good policy in this part of the world .
btw , I live outside the US , and our circumstances are completely different , so keep that in mind , always be aware of your local laws .
" I would rather be judged by 12 than brutally assaulted by six "
Never drawn on a person, but have had my hand on the butt (of the gun) a couple times. Keep in mind I deal with the mentally ill on a regular basis and have more exposure to unstable people than your average person. If I can talk my way out of a situation or just leave the area I will do that first. Most situations offer those options, but I am prepared to act if those options are removed.
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cpuckett812
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Only in front of the mirror after I make sure nobody else is around
xfyrfiter
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Confronted others three times in my life with a firearm . Just having the guns ended the confrontation, never had to fire in anger, thank God.
cor_man257
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If your firing in self defense, it wouldn't be anger. Itd be for your life.
.338Sako
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Once while I was working out of town staying in a hotel. I decided to walk across the street to buy some groceries. I always cc when I can. I had a .45 acp hi-cap, carrying mexican style with a wind breaker on. Anyways while I was exiting the store I heard very loud music coming from an SUV as I walked by the car they pulled behind me and followed. I was walking out of the way and they could have passed and they chose not too. As we reached the four lane highway I had to stop because the traffic was to heavy to cross. At that point two men exited the vehicle and walked towards me. As it was to busy to cross, I turned and faced them unzipped my jacket grabbed the gun without drawing it and said what do you want to do? Both men turned and walked through the parking lot to catch up with their ride as it had pulled out and turned back in the parking lot at a different entrance. Bottom line I knew they were up to no good, you can usually tell buy the dress, actions and general demeanor of the person. Had I not been carrying who knows...
shootingthebreeze
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No hope it never occurs.
One note about gas stations: they can be a dangerous place especially ones which double as a mini mart. Situational awareness: I gas up at 2 stations which are relatively safe and well situated. Avoid stopping at a gas station mini mart you don't know at a location you are unfamiliar with.
One note about gas stations: they can be a dangerous place especially ones which double as a mini mart. Situational awareness: I gas up at 2 stations which are relatively safe and well situated. Avoid stopping at a gas station mini mart you don't know at a location you are unfamiliar with.
Mainsail
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I didn’t have to draw. I was walking in the Park in Tacoma after breakfast, which was my usual routine on Sunday mornings. Two youths were approaching on the path from the opposite direction, on the other side of the wide path. They were on my left, and I had both hands in my sweatshirt pocket because it was so cold. I remember thinking how odd it was to see teens out that early on a Sunday morning. Suddenly, one of them radically changed course to intercept me, almost tripping his friend in the process. As he came in front of me (squared off) he suddenly noticed I was open carrying a 1911 on my right side. His reaction was the same as if I had pulled the gun; he threw his hands up in a surrender type of move, “Whoa!” and quickly walked away. I never saw them again.
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Where I live, you would be hard pressed to find a gas station without a minimart type of store attached.
At my computer shop once I pulled a firearm when a very angry man tried to jump the counter.
He dropped back down the other side, and said "that's not real".
I ejected a live round, chambered another. I never pointed the weapon at him (good thing, too, read on).
His face turned white and he ran out the door.
A half hour later I get a call from the local PD. The desk sergeant said to me "I have a man here who claims he threatened you and you pulled a firearm on him."
"Yessir, I did."
"Was the weapon loaded?"
"Yessir, it was."
"What type of weapon was it?"
"An AK-47 underfolding rifle."
"Did you point the weapon at the man?"
"No sir, I did not."
A half hour later, a detective stopped by my shop to speak with me. He inspected the rifle, checked that I had a valid FOID card, and again asked me if I pointed the weapon at the man. I said "no, I did not".
He asked the same question of two employees who were present.
Then he returned to my office and said "You're fine, but only because you didn't point the weapon at him. If you pointed the weapon at the man, we would have to arrest you for assault with a deadly weapon. You are allowed to carry in a fixed place of business, per Illinois law, there's no problem there. Just remember never to point a weapon at someone unless you are afraid for your life, and need to shoot them."
"That was my understanding all along."
"Do you wish to press assault charges on the man?"
"No, I do not."
Detective left, never heard another peep about it.
I *DO* find it humerous the guy had the nerve to go to the local police station to report me drawing a firearm on him AND he had the nerve to tell them in was in response to him threatening me.
Only time I've ever had to brandish a weapon. The power of dissuasion is amazing - that guy's anger deflated like a popped balloon.
He dropped back down the other side, and said "that's not real".
I ejected a live round, chambered another. I never pointed the weapon at him (good thing, too, read on).
His face turned white and he ran out the door.
A half hour later I get a call from the local PD. The desk sergeant said to me "I have a man here who claims he threatened you and you pulled a firearm on him."
"Yessir, I did."
"Was the weapon loaded?"
"Yessir, it was."
"What type of weapon was it?"
"An AK-47 underfolding rifle."
"Did you point the weapon at the man?"
"No sir, I did not."
A half hour later, a detective stopped by my shop to speak with me. He inspected the rifle, checked that I had a valid FOID card, and again asked me if I pointed the weapon at the man. I said "no, I did not".
He asked the same question of two employees who were present.
Then he returned to my office and said "You're fine, but only because you didn't point the weapon at him. If you pointed the weapon at the man, we would have to arrest you for assault with a deadly weapon. You are allowed to carry in a fixed place of business, per Illinois law, there's no problem there. Just remember never to point a weapon at someone unless you are afraid for your life, and need to shoot them."
"That was my understanding all along."
"Do you wish to press assault charges on the man?"
"No, I do not."
Detective left, never heard another peep about it.
I *DO* find it humerous the guy had the nerve to go to the local police station to report me drawing a firearm on him AND he had the nerve to tell them in was in response to him threatening me.
Only time I've ever had to brandish a weapon. The power of dissuasion is amazing - that guy's anger deflated like a popped balloon.
CollinLeon
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Now, THAT is some screwed up laws.
Sam1911
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Actually, that seems fairly leniet. Certainly common to the laws of most states. Pointing a firearm at someone is usually considered Assault, which is a felony. You must have VERY significant justification for doing so -- usually just about the same justification as you'd need to present if you were to actually shoot him. The cop gave extremely good advice, "never point a weapon at someone unless you're afraid for your life."
If that man wasn't a serious, imminent, DEADLY threat, pulling a gun on him is a huge no-no. Sounds like he may have presented such a threat, or may not. Glad Trent didn't have to find out for sure.
CollinLeon
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You trespass on my property, you are likely to have a gun pointed at you. Hell, I even pointed a gun at my daughter's boyfriend once when I caught them behind the house swapping spit.
Marlin 45 carbine
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yes more than once, once involved exchange of shots with some ner-do-wells looking for trouble (they found it)
You may think so, but it is the law in almost every state in the union and in all US territories.
One may lawfully point a firearm at another person under some circumstances in which when deadly force is not justified in Minnesota and in Texas, but only when force is legally justified.
It is best to not state in a public forum that one might have committed, or would likely commit, a felony. Matter of fact, that's addressed in the forum rules.
Read and heed this, which was posted earlier in this thread (Post #40):
....and read and comply with the rules of the forum; here are two very relevant excerpts:
It is strongly suggested that anyone who has not yet read the rules do so.
CollinLeon
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Perfectly legal in Texas... Sorry if you live in some leftist state where your rights have been infringed upon.
Not so fast! The operative words are "when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to prevent or terminate the other's trespass on the land or unlawful interference with the property". That means that the actor had reason to believe that he or she had no other way of terminating the trespass; someone else will judge, based on the evidence, whether the actor's belief had been reasonable. Should the trespasser later claim that he or she was not even asked to leave, whether that is true or not, the man or woman with the gun will be in a lot of trouble.
Depending upon the evidence, he or me she may or may not prevail in a defense against criminal charges, but one should realize that the burden of proof for a civil suit is much lot lower.
Again, from the forum rules:
CollinLeon
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Apparently we disagree on this, most likely because we come from different backgrounds. Around here, we don't believe in coddling criminals, so you are not going to have a problem with pointing a gun at a trespasser or someone getting a bit too friendly with your daughter on your own property.
Perhaps it's best that we just agree to disagree...
Perhaps it's best that we just agree to disagree...
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I had to draw one time. I was forced to, the guy followed us to a secluded area and then one guy approached two healthy males but the driver didn't get out to back him up. I got the gut feeling and I do not ignore that, I'd rather deal with the consequences if I'm wrong (and your gut seldom is even if you are). That was enough to stop it and turn the dude around, so luckily I didn't have to "use" it any farther. In the nearly 15 years since, no, not even close.
And I hope I make it through life without having to use it too. Just the hassle alone is discouraging enough without involving the taking of another life.
And I hope I make it through life without having to use it too. Just the hassle alone is discouraging enough without involving the taking of another life.
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