towerdog
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Any know a web site I can check my serial number to see when it was built. I tried the search but tap talk on my phone won't search the forum
Hawes Western Marshal
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rcmodel
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No.
To my knowledge, there is no data-base of Hawes serial numbers.
This is due to the fact that the company is long gone, leaving no records.
And there are no Hawes Collectors to do any in-depth research and write a book.
rc
To my knowledge, there is no data-base of Hawes serial numbers.
This is due to the fact that the company is long gone, leaving no records.
And there are no Hawes Collectors to do any in-depth research and write a book.
rc
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Unless there's a reason to know the exact year, a guess of between the early 1960s and early 1980s should cover it.
http://en.wikicollecting.org/hawes-firearms-co-weapons
http://en.wikicollecting.org/hawes-firearms-co-weapons
towerdog
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Thanks guys. I just picked it up on a trade. I was just curious. It is a straight shooter and is in good condition. I am getting into cowboy action this is part of my new habit
BobWright
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As a matter of interest, the Hawes single actions were the successors to the Hy Hunter Single Actions, which in turn were the successors (more of less) of the Great Western Single Actions.
The Great Westerns were made in the United States, the others were made in Germany, possibaly some latter guns were Italian made.
This is my Hy Hunter Western Six Shooter:
The grip straps were originally ZAMAK, I've replaced them with a brass trigger guard from a Uberti and a brass backstrap from a Hawes Western Marshal.
Bob Wright
The Great Westerns were made in the United States, the others were made in Germany, possibaly some latter guns were Italian made.
This is my Hy Hunter Western Six Shooter:
The grip straps were originally ZAMAK, I've replaced them with a brass trigger guard from a Uberti and a brass backstrap from a Hawes Western Marshal.
Bob Wright
Twmaster
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If it was made in Germany by Sauer and Sohns look on the left side of the gun on either the barrel near the frame or front left side of the frame. It will be two digits.
Deaf Smith
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My first big bore sixgun was the Western Marshal in .357 magnum.
Yes made by Saur & Son of Germany.
Worked real well.
Deaf
Yes made by Saur & Son of Germany.
Worked real well.
Deaf
towerdog
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So far I really like mine. It shoots accurately. I plan to be shooting cowboy action next summer. Someone put pearl grips on it and one is chipped does anyone make replacements still so far when I find them online it is always out of stock
RealGun
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I have a couple of these guns in 357 and 44 Mag and so far have not replaced any grips. However, I believe the guns are pretty true copies of the Colt SAA, any grips for which should fit or are worth a try.
bannockburn
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My first single action was a Hawes Western Marshall made in Germany by J. P. Sauer & Sohn. It had a blued finish with white plastic grips. As I recall the grips felt a little wider overall than that of a Colt SAA. I wonder if grips for the EAA Bounty Hunter, made by Weihrauch, might fit it.
GBExpat
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I just checked the .357 Western Marshal (made in West Germany by Sauer) that Dad bought in the late '60s ... no two-digit date stamping.Twmaster said:
This was a great question!
My dad had one in .357 that I think has rosewood grips. His Western Marshal was made in Germany and is marked as made in 1968 on the left side of the barrel (which I just learned about in this discussion). Not to derail the thread too far, but what are they worth? IIRC, my dad only paid about $225 for it about 7 years ago. Now that dad has passed, my mom would like to sell it.
(BTW - my brother and I "split" my dad's guns with my mom 3 ways. He and I each took a couple that meant the most to us, and my mom got the others to do with what she pleased. The Hawes doesn't have any family history or great utility to us, so it's not like we'd be losing something with great value to the family.)
My dad had one in .357 that I think has rosewood grips. His Western Marshal was made in Germany and is marked as made in 1968 on the left side of the barrel (which I just learned about in this discussion). Not to derail the thread too far, but what are they worth? IIRC, my dad only paid about $225 for it about 7 years ago. Now that dad has passed, my mom would like to sell it.
(BTW - my brother and I "split" my dad's guns with my mom 3 ways. He and I each took a couple that meant the most to us, and my mom got the others to do with what she pleased. The Hawes doesn't have any family history or great utility to us, so it's not like we'd be losing something with great value to the family.)
Twmaster
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I'm curious about the inconsistency on the location of the date. I've got a Herter's 401 PowerMag made by Sauer and Sohns. It's the same gun as a Western Marshall. All the WM's I've seen had a date on the left side somewhere.
Also, the grips are not the same as an SAA. Close, but not the same.
Also, the grips are not the same as an SAA. Close, but not the same.
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towerdog
Found N.C. Ordnance (www.GunGrip.com) online, having a number of different grips (imitation ivory, pearl, stag), for the Hawes Western Marshall.
Found N.C. Ordnance (www.GunGrip.com) online, having a number of different grips (imitation ivory, pearl, stag), for the Hawes Western Marshall.
RealGun
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I don't think any of my replacement grips on any of my guns are the exact same thickness as the originals. I think "fit" is a separate matter.
Realgun - I think the distance on the Hawes between the frontstrap and the back of the triggerguard is a little more than it is on other SAA clones too. I don't have one to compare the two, so this is just going from memory, but it does feel and point differently.
The Hawes is also pretty heavy for what it is. The one I have is .357, but they built these in .44 Magnum too. So when you have .357 size holes in a .44 size cylinder... heavy.
The Hawes is also pretty heavy for what it is. The one I have is .357, but they built these in .44 Magnum too. So when you have .357 size holes in a .44 size cylinder... heavy.
GBExpat
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You can say that again ... actually, I just did that for you.goon said:
GBExpat
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Here are a couple of pics of the "rosewood"(?) grips on mine.
RealGun
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I tried Vaquero grips on my Western Marshall, and they do not fit.
RealGun
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My Montana Marshall 357 may have lots of meat in the cylinder but it shoots great.
correction: my Montana Marshall is another 44 mag with brass grip and trigger guard. My 357 Sauer is more of a Blackhawk with adjustable sights.
correction: my Montana Marshall is another 44 mag with brass grip and trigger guard. My 357 Sauer is more of a Blackhawk with adjustable sights.
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GBExpat - it's strange that your gun doesn't have the date stamp on the left side of the barrel where mine does. I also think ours is stamped with Germany under Hawes Firearms, Los Angeles, CA on the left side of the barrel. The grips look like the same type of wood, and the grip frame and triggerguard look like they're made of aluminum.
Twmaster
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Those grips are very nice.
towerdog
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I love the rosewood grips. That is what I have been looking for. This winter I may try to make a set.
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