HB 1176 needs a hearing in the senate. Indiana

[txgho1911]

Met with a few folks today. As I thought some of us have differences of opinion in some areas. We all showed up and there where many who could not for many different reasons. I have been somewhat discouraged in some ways as I have heard very apathetic responces and the excuse:
Thanks, but I get all of the info I need from NRA and ISRPA.

I have spoken to NRA-ILA grass roots co-ordinator about the fact that there are bills in the IN legislature above and beyond hb 1028. She did not have an answer except that the NRA lobbiest in Indiana may not have comminicated beyond the tunnel focus of Castle Doctrine legislation they braught a copy of from FL. Does not seem to matter to the NRA that we in Indiana may have a lifetime liscense in the works. I am speaking of HB 1176.
I made a search on line for isrpa and found something in Italy so I added Indiana to the search and still no direct links to the organization or anything to do with legislative updates.
Copied from email:Met with a few folks today. As I thought some of us have differences of opinion in some areas. We all showed up and there where many who could not for many different reasons. I have been somewhat discouraged in some ways as I have heard very apathetic responces and the excuse:
Thanks, but I get all of the info I need from NRA and ISRPA.

I have spoken to NRA-ILA grass roots co-ordinator about the fact that there are bills in the IN legislature above and beyond hb 1028. She did not have an answer except that the NRA lobbiest in Indiana may not have comminicated beyond the tunnel focus of Castle Doctrine legislation they braught a copy of from FL. Does not seem to matter to the NRA that we in Indiana may have a lifetime liscense in the works. I am speaking of HB 1176.
I made a search on line for isrpa and found something in Italy so I added Indiana to the search and still no direct links to the organization or anything to do with legislative updates.
Copied from email:

I just had a phone conversation with Rep. Woodruff and Sen. Nugent about HB 1176. It has not been scheduled for a hearing on the senate side yet.

Sen. Nugent tells me that the Chairman, Sen. Long, is troubled with the "lifetime" language. He seems to be concerned what would happen if someone has a lifetime permit and does something to have it revoked, how would it be done. Well, it would be the same procedure if someone just received their four year permit and a week later does something wrong. There's no difference.

I've told you before that I'm not too fond of Sen. Long when it comes to standing strong for gun owners. What you all must do and I sincerely hope you will and that is call Sen. Long's office Monday and politely request that he give HB 1176 a hearing. Again the number is 1-800-382-9467, ask the operator to put you into his office. I don't care what state you live in just call him. This bill needs to get a hearing in the senate in the next few days.

Long has given HB 1028 a hearing which is unbelievable. That's Rep. Koch's bill that would allow a citizen to use deadly force like Florida's Castle Doctrine law. Yet Sen. Long has a problem with honest law abiding citizens having a lifetime carry permit to exercise their Constitutional right.

Rep. Woodruff told that me tonight that he has a few more moves if the senate doesn't co-operate, but it would be a whole lot better if they would.

If this becomes law it would be the first in the nation. Every legislator whose name is associated with this will benefit from it. You would think that would occur to Sen. Long.

There are about 130 recipients on this e-mail list. I hope that everyone one of them and their spouse and their friends will call Sen. Long's office, too. Especially everyone in the Ft. Wayne, IN area needs to make the call.

HB 1028, Rep, Koch's bill, I'm told, was a (NRA Bill). HB 1176 is an American citizen gun owner bill. IT'S YOUR BILL. HOW BAD DO YOU WANT IT? Do you want the hassle every 4 years from local law enforcement agencies who try to make it a hardship for you to even apply for a permit? Maybe they don't want you to own a gun. Maybe they don't like the medication you have prescribed. Maybe it's just the way you look that doesn't appeal to them. There's countless reasons why they might imagine that you ought not be allowed to exercise your right to keep and bear arms. But a lifetime permit would put a lot of this aggravation behind you.

CALL MONDAY, CALL EARLY!

Jim and Margie
2nd Amendment Patriots
STAY UNITED

As many folks who can please let them know you want the bill to be acted on and not die quietly in a comittee.
txgho1911

 

[txgho1911]

Stop the presses

NRA-ILA has updated the web page including HB 1176!

 

[Standing Wolf]

...Chairman, Sen. Long, is troubled with the "lifetime" language. He seems to be concerned what would happen if someone has a lifetime permit and does something to have it revoked, how would it be done. Well, it would be the same procedure if someone just received their four year permit and a week later does something wrong. There's no difference.

Sounds like you might have to use fewer long words to explain it to him and more pictures and hand gestures. Maybe sock puppets would help.

 

[IndianaDean]

I just checked the NRA-ILA site. I'm glad they finally put it on there. I will be calling to voice support for it.

 

[txgho1911]

1028 will not be assigned to comittee

Indiana State Senator, District 41 Robert D. Garton is President Pro Tempore and will not assigne this to comittee in the Senate. He does not like the Corp restrictions on banning safe storage in locked vehicles on company property. He is willing to assigne this to comittee if he gets a commitment to remove this Corp restrictive language from the bill.
I got this directly from Sen J Nugent.

Give Garton and your own Sen a call urging this get assigned to comittee. We want this included. Do you remember the suite in Oklahoma? Corporations do not run the state of Indiana. Let's not let them start.

Gerald

Update HB1176 First reading: referred to Committee on Rules and Legislative Procedure in the Senate

 

[txgho1911]

Not in the right place

Sen Garton who is the President of the senate, Is not going to assign the bill to it's proper committee. Sen. Garton is going to souly prevent this bill from passing unless we call his office. Sen. Nugent told me the bill would easily pass the Senate if given a chance. Sen. Garton assigned the bill to the rules committee were it will die unless we, the people of Indiana, tell him to let this bill be heard. The House has spoken and passed this bill 82-18. Now Sen. Garton is speaking for all of us by not allowing this bill to be heard. 30 out of the 48 Democrats voted for it and all 52 Republicans voted for it in the House. PLEASE CALL SENATOR GARTON OFFICE.

 

[txgho1911]

HB1176 on it's way to the floor

I think Dan means HB1176.
-------------- Forwarded Message: --------------
From: "XXXXXXXX" <minuteman32XXXXXXX>
To: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 18:40:00 +0000
Gerald,

My State Senator, Mike Young, who is on the committee that was hearing HB
1076, just called me before he was due back on the floor. It is out of
committee now & assuming that SB 054 has the same language, will go to the
full legislature! He did say that some note attached to it, but I'm not sure
what it was. The important part, lifetime language, is still there.

Just thought I'd let you know as soon as I could (I just got off the phone
<5 min. ago).

Dan




Also I am including a few notes copied from IN.GOV.

First S054 was heard in committee today. I do not know the outcome. Put a call
into W.Burton's office for an update.

AGENDA FOR: Public Safety and Homeland Security

MEETING: February 14, 830AM, Room 156-C

CHAIR: Representative Ruppel

MEMBERS: Burton, Crouch, Dodge, Duncan, Murphy. Tincher R.M.M., Bischoff, C.
Brown, L. Lawson, Summers.

AGENDA: SB 0054 SB 0055 SB 0081 SB 0206 SB 0247 SB 0283

Quick look at HB1028 and HB1176 shows no updates.