HD on a poor guy's budget... any ideas?

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Dionysusigma

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Well, I finally got a place of my own, a 1-bedroom apartment with not-too-thick walls. Now, I'm working part-time at a very low-paying job, so money isn't exactly something I have that can be tossed around. In a thread over in the Shotgun forum, I stated that I used what little savings I had to pick up a new Mossberg 590 "Special Purpose" for HD, but...

I'd also like some advice on general alert systems and such. I have no money for a dog (as much as I'd like one) due to the upkeep costs involved, plus extra deposits to the landlords and such. And I'm a bit of a heavy sleeper too, which doesn't exactly help an HD situation. After talking with my new neighbors and surveying the general area in which I live, HD is a pretty dang good idea and I've come up with an interesting (if crude) idea for a penniless bachelor (me) that'll warn him if anyone unwanted tries to come into the apartment.

Quick layout of the place:
=The apt. complex consists of only 8 separate 1-bedroom tenaments on the east side of the building, all on one level that's about 1.5 stories up a flight of stairs (below is a storage facility). The stairs are one long flight, on the south side of the structure.

=Finding the building itself is difficult, as it's back a distance from the street in an area known for some light businesses and mostly suburban houses. The building is a drab blue-gray color, which is easily dismissed if you're going by in a car. Advertising for the place is equally low-key.

=My apartment contains on the east wall the front door towards the south and a window in the middle of the wall (the only other opening in the house is another window on the west side, with a 2-story drop to the ground below).

Now for the "security system," total cost: Free.
=On the windowsill by the front door, I've placed a couple of books standing up, with the front of each book facing the window. The blinds are shut. Below these, two bricks (from my parent's garden) rest on the floor. On top of these bricks rests a 1.5' x 4' piece of sheet metal (compliments of my stagebuilding days in high school).

=Leaning against the door is another large piece of sheet metal, with the base only about 2.5" from the base of the door.

The idea is this:
If someone tries to come through the window, they'll probably knock a book onto the sheet metal, creating an ungodly racket that will wake me up in an instant.

If that doesn't work, when they step on the metal itself, it'll still make a racket. (BTW, the bricks are there to space the sheet metal from the floor--the carpeting dampens the sound quite well and ruins the effect.)

If they come in through the door, the sheet metal laying against that will fall upon the metal on the floor. Loud noise ensues, I wake up.

And all this in case the sound of the busted window/ broken door doesn't do the trick.

So, IF they find this place; and IF they bother with the long stairs; and IF they know about and are silent with the window, door, books, bricks, and sheet metal... At least my cell phone is always within arm's reach, and the Mossberg within the other arm's reach.

Am I being paranoid, or just making the best of a low-money situation? What would y'all do differently/ the same? This whole nonsense is all sort of a Rube Goldberg explanation and idea, but I figure hey--if I don't take it all down before I try to leave for work in a hurry, my inadvertant collision with it all wakes me up the rest of the way.

And that's worth something, ain't it? ;)
 
WHAT!? Where is the broken glass? The plywood with 3" nails sticking up? The barbed wire coiled across the floor? The motion lights plugged into the living room outlet? What about a bunch of mousetraps spread across the floor? I hope you don't walk in your sleep! LOL
 
It's not a bad alert system, although it's a little awkward and space-consuming.

Remember that the layers of home security are:

Deselection - Don't look like a target (You've got this pretty well down.)
Exclusion - Keep `em out (Beefy doors, windows, locks. Have you done all you can here?)
Deterrence - Scare them off (loud noises, alarms like your sheet metal.)
Defense - Shoot the bastiches.

Remember -- it's better for them to give up when they see the alarm sign than for them to try to break in.

It's better for them to try to break in and fail than for them to enter and set off an alarm.

It's better for them to enter, set off an alarm (even your sheet metal) and turn tail at the noise than to stick around to see what buckshot looks like when it's approaching at 1200 fps or so.

It's worst if they get all the way in and don't run. Then you gotta shoot them. And that's baaaad news for you.

So make sure you do everything you can to get them to veer off at an earlier stage. Talk to the landlord about better doors, better locks, better window latches, etc.

If he doesn't go for it, think about what you can do yourself. A broom handle can wedge a door or window shut quite effectively.

Inexpensive devices like door security bars can deter a push-in:
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Good luck.
 
First off, you're a guy so you won't be targeted for rape. Second off, if you are as dirt poor as you state, nobody's breaking in to steal your stuff. I'd say you are a tad over-cautious. Just lock up whenever you go through the door, keep windows closed and locked unless you are at home and the sun is up and you need some fresh air. Keep the shottie loaded and easily accessible. Should be all set.

GT
 
Poor people steal from each other on a regular basis; but, unless you have a bunch of valuable secreted away, there isn't much you need to protect. Only your personal safety needs to be looked after and that gets back to having secure locks and so on as you've already been told. Secure the gun while you are out. If a locking cabinet isn't an option, at least bike lock it to the bedframe.
 
First off, you're a guy so you won't be targeted for rape. Second off, if you are as dirt poor as you state, nobody's breaking in to steal your stuff.

I wouldn't count on it, in either case. I've read (somewhere, couldn't point to stats) that homosexual rape is a lot higher percentage of total rapes than the offical numbers show. Very underreported.

Predators will prey on poor folk. Ever read the "Armed Citizen" column? One or more of them being not very bright, having poor impulse control, seeing targets of opportunity.
 
For the doorways...

Front door has a vase (vauze, if you prefer) :D [umbrella stand]with several walking sticks in it. Vase sits up on a brick, with a couple of the canes in the door "swing path". So, if someone actually manages to unlock and open both the screen door and the regular door without me hearing it, the 'vauze' and canes will make a lot of racket when they go crashing to the ceramic tile floor.

Back door has a string of bells attached to the lockset. If someone manages to open that door, or break out the lock, bells will make lotza noise.

Have one of those 'baby monitors' set up in the far bedroom, with volume up way loud in the Master BR.

Also have X-10 controlled cameras set up with motion detectors & stuff guarding the yard. Anyone approaching front or back porch sets off chimes & the VCR in Record mode.
 
Be careful. All that could be considered a "mantrap" which, I think, is illegal everywhere. How about a string going from the front door to an alarm clock in the bedroom. Do they have the old BigBen mechanical alarm clocks any more? If not one of them, Radio Shack should have some kind of electronic noisemaker.
 
dionysusigma
After talking with my new neighbors and surveying ....
I think that was one of the cheapest and the best thing that you already did. Make sure that you know your neighbors.
 
Sounds like you've got some pretty good ideas there, although I don't know how well that will work in practice. First off, get some type of noisemaker for your front door. A simple cow bell on the doorknob is what I had in mind. Use your imagination. Next might be some type of motion sensor for the entry room with a way to alert you. One simple thing I didn't see (and I only skimmed this VERY quickly) was put a lock on your bedroom door. One more thing that can buy you some time to get the shotty ready is definitely worth the price. Door knobs are fairly cheap to buy and easy to install. Oh, another lock on the front door (chain, slide-type, you get the idea) and a simple wooden dowel in the window track are cheap methods of gaining extra security. Don't forget things that can sit outside. If you can put an immovable object under a window (like a barbecue thats chained up) this can help deter people. You could also put a few cactii in the window sill. They require very little water and pretty much no food. They also hurt when they stick you.
 
I'm thinking motion-sensor lights are really cheap these days ($15?). In addition to covering your door/window from the outside, an inside unit would scare the crap out of someone intending you harm. Could probably trigger a noisemaker just as easy (use a screw-in adapter to replace a bulb and run power to something noisy).
 
I've seen several apartments that are layed out with a wall opposite of the door. If the wall is w/in 4 ft or so of the door it's real easy and cheap to get a 2x4, cut it to lenght, pad the ends to save the finish on the wall and wedge it between the outside corner of the door and the wall. Note: you should make sure the end of the board against the wall has another board at a 90 degree to it so that any force is spread across the wall and not on the sheet rock that will not hold a shove in.
 
Be careful. All that could be considered a "mantrap" which, I think, is illegal everywhere.

Nope.

Nothing suggested (vase, canes, bells) is likely to injure an intruder. That's the illegal bit.

Thereis nothing at all illegal about making arrangements to make noise. A bell is a vase is a cane is a burglar alarm. It's all good!
 
I think that was one of the cheapest and the best thing that you already did. Make sure that you know your neighbors.

Exactly. Problem is, what if his neighbors are drunken white trash morons like half of mine....
 
Hey Wondernine

I feel your pain. I had a drunken white trash moron living in the house next to me. He had homeless drug addicts living in tents in his backyard (no, the police wouldn't do anything about it). Try raising two small children with that next door! Fortunately, his lifestyle led to him losing his house a few months ago. The rest of my neighbors are decent people. Nonetheless, my doors are always locked, my guard dogs always on alert, and a handgun is always IWB. Stay safe.
 
No problem. I'm always willing to help someone who wants to keep themselves alive. Having a shotgun and devices to slow entry are a lot better than cowering in the corner praying that the bad guy doesn't kill you before the cops get there.
 
Am I being paranoid, or just making the best of a low-money situation? What would y'all do differently/ the same?
I don't think you're paranoid, I've felt similar under similar circumstances. I might not have bought a new shotgun, more likely a used one and since I'm a gadget guy I might have spent the remainder on a few cheap alarm-type contraptions but I believe you are on the right track. Advice about locks should be especially well taken, and I like the cactus on the windowsill trick.

By the way, is this turning into a "drunken white trash moron" bashing thread? I resent that!
 
I use a 12ga pump shotgun in conjunction with a LW Commander. However my wife has arranged a wonderful deterrent against burglars.

My wife is a stack-a-holic and a packrat. There is stuff stacked in boxes everywhere. If some fool is stupid enough to try to get in a window he will likely fall over boxes of her stuff and break his neck.

I ran off the crackhead white trash teenagers a year ago at shotgun-point and they haven't even gone into the apartment complex since. Seems most crackheads are so stupid they try to bring a knife to a gunfight. The cops actually said I did the right thing and eventually busted all five of them.

I am always within arms reach of a 45. Shotgun is a few feet away. Last resort is my SKS. Not paranoid, just prepared.

ZM
 
Do you have access to a junkyard?
What you are looking for is a cheap but functional car horn.
You can wire one up with a homemade switch from a mousetrap or a clothespin with a tripwire on the offending door or window or just in the path that the hooligan will be coming from.
Imagine what you would do if you crawled through a window and all of the sudden there was this car horn blaring like hell at you and waking up everyone in a three block radius.
I would haul a$$. ;)
 
The "doorjam that Mattpayne pictured is good-I've got a very similar one. Some other ideas to consider:

Will your landlord let you add locks to your front door? Even if not, you can strengthen the existing bolt. Look at the door jamb where the bolt enters. Is it deep enough? Your bolt might seat deeper if you removed some more material. Also, if your door is typical, there is a tiny brass-like plate with a hole for the bolt to slide through. All that bit of metal does is prevent the wooden jamb from splitting with regular use. A good kick will open that door fast!

Go to home depot and look for a replacement plate. The longer the metal, the more the force of the blow can be distributed over the entire jamb. If you are handy with tools, you can make one that will extend the entire height of the door. Make sure the wood screws are long enough to sink deeply into the door frame, and maybe even into the wall studs next to it. If you can add your own lock, distance it from the one already there, so that a blow to the door may exceed one of them, but not likely both at the same time.

Windows are more difficult to reinforce. Check the web-you can purchase very convincing "Alarm" stickers. Remember, if someone REALLY wants in, they'll get in. You are deterring them, and slowing them down. The Mossberg is great IF you are home when the invasion occurs. Getting to know the neighbors is a good step.

Hope absolutely nothing happens.
 
Dionysus,
Good idea with the books and metal strip.

I use jingle bells on the doorknob.

If you have sliding doors, sliding windows or windows that slide up, you might want to pick up a couple dowels to fit into the track to prevent windows from opening up much.

Maybe ask the police department or check old newspapers for crime logs and see if there are any break ins in the area.

-Jim
 
Appears to me you made some pretty pratical choices based on your budget. Sometimes simple is better. Your alarm system won't be easily defeated, should give ample warning. The Mossy is the last resort. Cleanup after using the later is hell!!
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