Preacherman
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At 9 p.m. Eastern tonight, the History Channel's "Tech Effect" program will examine the North Hollywood bank shootout. Their description:
Might be interesting...
Heads Up - Gun program tonight on History Channel
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Ill be looking for it, although the History channel is becoming less about historical fact, and more about current opinions.
anyone else notice the History Channels becoming more and more a tool of the Liberals?
Last week on tactical to practical they were checking out the Navies Fast Attack boats. Right in the middle of the story on the Swift boats there was an obvious cut to a segment about Kerry and how this was one of the boats he heroically served on. Was completely out of context and seemed to have been inserted after the fact. (voice was slightly off, and none of the other boat types got similar treatment)
I have seen several obvious examples but that is the latest and best remembered.
anyone else notice the History Channels becoming more and more a tool of the Liberals?
Last week on tactical to practical they were checking out the Navies Fast Attack boats. Right in the middle of the story on the Swift boats there was an obvious cut to a segment about Kerry and how this was one of the boats he heroically served on. Was completely out of context and seemed to have been inserted after the fact. (voice was slightly off, and none of the other boat types got similar treatment)
I have seen several obvious examples but that is the latest and best remembered.
natedog
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I haven't noticed anything like that. It seems that they have some gear heads or gunnies at the helm. Think shows like "Tales of the Gun". Usually accurate, always entertaining.
I find the timing of this show rather suspicious. This event happened over seven years ago. How much do you want to bet that the show will try to infer or imply that this sort of crime will be run rampant if the AWB is allowed to expire. (uzi's & ak's on every street).
I will probably watch since the History channel is one of the few channels I can stomach to watch. Hopefully I am being too cynical today.
drc
I will probably watch since the History channel is one of the few channels I can stomach to watch. Hopefully I am being too cynical today.
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I hope they point out that it happened DURING that AWB...
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I always enjoyed those programs, also 'Weapons of War'.
Very accurate.
Very accurate.
If the History Channel is liberal, I am a duck. They constantly run Bush ads, and I have yet to see a Kerry ad from them. I also don't believe a liberal network would run a show called "Tales Of The Gun".
The History Channel leans farther to the right than FOX does.
SodiumBenzoate
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At least they can accurately call these firearms "assault rifles" as the weapons used were automatic.
I'll watch it. The History Channel has always avoided portraying guns as "bad", so this should be better than other documentaries on the event.
I agree. There is no way they could have some of the programs they do without a couple of gun-friendly executives.
I'll watch it. The History Channel has always avoided portraying guns as "bad", so this should be better than other documentaries on the event.
I agree. There is no way they could have some of the programs they do without a couple of gun-friendly executives.
jamz
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Thanks for the heads up. Got it on now. 
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Heh.
"Don't bring a pistol or a shotgun to a rifle fight".
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"Don't bring a pistol or a shotgun to a rifle fight".
-James
iamkris
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OK, that wasn't bad. Actually talked more about the lack of equipment of the LAPD than the "evil guns"
The only mistake I saw was they mixed the cartridge images up when profiling the AK and the HK. Showed a 7.62x39 on the HK and a 7.62x51mm on the AK...they described it correctly though.
The only mistake I saw was they mixed the cartridge images up when profiling the AK and the HK. Showed a 7.62x39 on the HK and a 7.62x51mm on the AK...they described it correctly though.
No4Mk1
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I thought it was pretty well done. There were some over-generalizations, but not bad by any means for a 30 minute program. It focused on the technology in a pure sense and didn't pass judgement.
Kudos to the History Channel.
Kudos to the History Channel.
pauli
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the writer seemed somewhat... confused... about what's an m16, and what's an ar15.
"the m16 is a semi automatic version of the colt ar15."
ahem. other than that bit of uncaught dyslexia, it was pretty good.
well, unless you object to the description of the ak47 as "high tech"
"the m16 is a semi automatic version of the colt ar15."
ahem. other than that bit of uncaught dyslexia, it was pretty good.
well, unless you object to the description of the ak47 as "high tech"
DevilDog
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Not a bad program. I can understand the mistakes as they covered a lot of technical details in 30 minutes of programming.
I am still looking for a complete story on the shootout and also a full history on the two bad guys, including where/how they got their firearms.
They did mention that the HK was illegally modified to full auto. Can't recall if they mentioned where they obtained the firearms.
I am still looking for a complete story on the shootout and also a full history on the two bad guys, including where/how they got their firearms.
They did mention that the HK was illegally modified to full auto. Can't recall if they mentioned where they obtained the firearms.
rico_29803
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The History Channel is owned by A&E Networks with is a joint venture of the Hearst Corporation, ABC and NBC. Draw your own conclusions.
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Spent a lot of time talking about the badguys shooting in full auto while showing people shooting in semi-autho... I didn't like that. I don't want to be shooting a semi-auto veprII at the range and have some turd call the cops because he thinks it's a full auto ak which I am firing 'full auto' (1 time per pull of the trigger).
It seems different then most other gun programs on History. It was probably put together with a whole different group of people than who usually do stuff thats why it had some mistakes.
I did find it intestering that the guys were drugged to calm their nerves. Thats pretty wild.
I did find it intestering that the guys were drugged to calm their nerves. Thats pretty wild.
ID_shooting
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I thought it was fairly good as well, other then the mix-ups w/ the ammo and the m-16 vs. AR deal. The semi vs. full auto deal was annoying to, I would have liked to see more info there, oh well, must of been a new TA on staff for this one.
I have a couple of questions though:
Is an HK-91 really considerd a "sniper" rifle?
Also, IIRC, wasn't this the shootout whare the cops had to to a local gun store and get ARs cuz the LAPD didn't have any? If so, it would have been nice to have heard about that. Give the "see, the gun owners are not all evil cop-haters" impression.
I have a couple of questions though:
Is an HK-91 really considerd a "sniper" rifle?
Also, IIRC, wasn't this the shootout whare the cops had to to a local gun store and get ARs cuz the LAPD didn't have any? If so, it would have been nice to have heard about that. Give the "see, the gun owners are not all evil cop-haters" impression.
DevilDog
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Yes, it was, and I don't think they were able to get back to the scene and put them to use before it was over.
jason10mm
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I read or heard somewhere that those guys got busted for weapons charges (don't remember if the weapons themselves were illegal or if they used them illegally), served time, then the judge gave the weapons back so they guys could sell them to cover their legal costs. Hmmm, my memory is so vague on it I could be totally wrong though.
Watched it, overall it was ok. Ive seen that robbery several times in several different type shows so I knew most of the story already and was watching for the tech stuff.
I think that the script was written by someone (or edited) by someone with some level of Firearm knowledge; while the overal direction of show was, while polished nicely, inaccurate in its depiction and description of the central theme, the technology.
it seemed like there was something wrong with either the images they showed or the voiceover description of just about every piece of "tech" they examined. They were all pretty minor but was disapointing.
As for the left lean, I never ment that it was all liberal all the time, just that it seems that I have been picking up a pro-kerry - anti-war/bush vibe. Maybe its just the election year, maybe its a change in management, maybe im just watching too much TV... who knows, BUT it is still one of the BEST channels on the television.
I think that the script was written by someone (or edited) by someone with some level of Firearm knowledge; while the overal direction of show was, while polished nicely, inaccurate in its depiction and description of the central theme, the technology.
it seemed like there was something wrong with either the images they showed or the voiceover description of just about every piece of "tech" they examined. They were all pretty minor but was disapointing.
As for the left lean, I never ment that it was all liberal all the time, just that it seems that I have been picking up a pro-kerry - anti-war/bush vibe. Maybe its just the election year, maybe its a change in management, maybe im just watching too much TV... who knows, BUT it is still one of the BEST channels on the television.
ny32182
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Dammit I missed it. Is it supposed to be replayed any time soon?
Dollar Bill
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I also enjoy the History Channel and overall find their programming refreshing and informative in the way they treat weapons of all kinds. I did notice the plug for Kerry in the riverboat story and I also thought it was a little out of place. I have not yet seen this program but I am also suspicious of the timing of the airing here 30 days prior to the AWB sunset. I am still skeptical the AWB will be allowed to sunset.
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