Heckler & Koch P30 V3 quick review

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Hello everybody, I’ll make a quick review of my father’s HK P30 V3 9mm pistol he purchased on May 2010.

He previously owned a Glock 19 that I personally pushed him to buy but it simply wasn’t HIS gun: he has never gotten accustomed to Glock’s trigger, grip angle and aggressive texture of the front and backstrap; he also didn’t like the plastic sights and plastic guide rod and he didn’t want to spend money to customize a gun that probably will never cover his needs.
So, after a lot of research we finally found a gun that meets all his desires such as: traditional SA/DA trigger, second strike capability, decocker-only lever in a smart position, ambidextrous magazine and slide-stop release, loaded chamber indicator, big all steel fixed sights with tree high visible "glow in the dark" dots, all steel guide rod with recoil buffer, very comfortable grips with interchangeable backstraps and panels, great fit and finish, look and, why not, cool factor.

The gun arrived in its presentation plastic case with two additional backstraps, two pairs of side grip panels, spare magazine, instruction manual, factory group at 15 meters, and a magazine loader.
I’ve noticed, on the HK P30’s case pics you can usually find on Internet, that in place of the magazine loader there are two keys for the internal lock. My father’s HK does NOT have the internal lock: the hole in the grip, where you have to put the key to activate the lock, is actually uncutted. Thanks to HK Germany and the Italian Importer…
The gun arrived at the gun shop with two panels of the same type (two L-left and no one S-right, if I can recall). So we contacted the Importer that informed HK Germany and the S-right panel arrived in 15 days. Now we have a spare L-left panel…Well, I don’t know if we suck but certainly HK does not hate us!

After a little try my father found that the best grip for him is obtained using the S backstrap and M panels; however, if it was my gun, I’ll put the L backstrap, L-right panel and S-left panel: this is the beauty of having a full adjustable grips like the HK P30 has: 27 different combinations for 27 different hand’s sizes.

Shooting the thing is a plesaure: it is a soft recoiling gun thanks to the white teflon buffer, the trigger is large and comfortable, everything works like a fine swiss watch. Not to mention accuracy wich is better than the CZ P-01 and that says a lot. The gun has fired only 400 factory rounds without problems, even a box of lead truncated cone bullets just to see if it was true that the polygonal barrel doesn’t like them…For the record it is not true!
Only problem I had was the slide does not always hold open if I use the “thumbs forward” grip wich is no more an issue for me because I’m switching anyway to the “thumbs crossed” grip with all pistols (“thumbs behind” grip with small revolvers). My father instead didn’t have the same problem with the “thumbs forward” grip (luckly, because it is HIS gun). It is now his favourite pistol.
Sights are great for quick target picture; I’ve probably preferred a closer rear sight sides to exploit the amazing accuracy of the gun at the range but, again, it is me.
For me the trigger is near perfect for a law-enforcement pistol like the P30 is: DA is long and heavy (but very smooth), SA is a little heavy but breaks like glass after the initial travel that is however necessary to disingage the firing pin block. IMO you can’t ask more for a defence pistol trigger that is mainly designed to prevent unintentional shots.
I love the magazine release: you can activate it with the thumb or with the trigger finger and it is very easy to reach. I personally use the trigger finger, while my father uses the thumb. Capacity is 15+1 rounds.
The gun is totally left-friendly. If you are lefty, I’ve found that is simple (with a little practice) to reach the decocker with your left hand’s thumb.

Conclusions: the HK P30 is a cool, prestigious, ready to go “out of the box” gun. You don’t really need to do anything to this gun to make it working for you (just change the grip(s) if you want) because it is just perfect the way it is.
IMO, all considered, it is simply one of the most modern or, if you prefere, one of the most complete all around pistol on the market.
I really don’t understand why many guys say that the HK P30 is overpriced just because (in their opinion) it doesn’t do anything more than its least expensive opponents; I think instead that the price difference (wich many times is not that great) is worth every cent once you consider all the things the P30 can offer to you. And if you take a look at the slide (and at the bunch of different machinings from different tools, necessary to make it) you easily realize that in many cases it costs ALONE more than some fully assembled polymer pistols out there.

Best regards, 5-SHOTS.

P.S.: “HK, because you suck and we hate you”, best spot slogan ever!
 

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No doubt about it, the P30 is a very intuitive, very natural feeling, ergonomic design. The first time I shot one I was amazed at how comfortable I felt with it. Like putting on a pair of old loafers... just perfect. An easy gun to shoot well from the first shot.
 
Congratulations on the P30. I just recently got a P30S (manual safety) and it is right there with my Walther P99 as being my favorite pistol. I don't think there is a better quality 9mm pistol that can be carried cocked and locked, and I don't see myself getting rid of it anytime soon.

There are some things on the P30 that I don't see on many other pistols that tells me that these things were made with quality in mind. On the P30 there is a cutout on the side of the breechface opposite of the extractor that I think is there to help the rims of the cartridges slide under the extractor, and help the ejector pop the cases out after the round has been fired. There is a visible step in the chamber where the chamber gets smaller as it gets closer to the rifling, which is there to help with feed reliability and accuracy. The front of the barrel has a larger diameter than the middle, which is there to improve mechanical accuracy. The manual safeties and sights are metal as opposed to plastic. This pistol has the most comfortable grip I have ever held on a pistol, it is even better than the P99 which was designed by an Olympic pistol grip designer, and best of all for me is that all of the controls are ambidextrous. This is the first pistol I have held where I can easily and naturally reach all of the controls since I am a lefty. I have heard people say good and bad things about every pistol I have ever owned, and it never phased me at all if I personally liked the pistol. Don't let other people get you down about what could be one of the best 9mm pistols out.

The only bad thing I hear about H&K pistols is the price, which to me says that they are worth the price :D, as long as they shoot good in your hands.

I hope you and your father enjoy your new pistol.
 
Congrats on the new gun!
I love when my dad buys a new one, because I can always take it to the range.
Why 9x21? is 9x19 illegal in Italy?
Is tritium illegal in Italy?
 
First of all thanks to all.

Yes, here in Italy 9x19 semiautos are not allowed for civilian and reserved for police and Army only (anyway we can own the few 9x19 revolvers made, such as the S&W 940, and we can feed them with lead bullets ONLY).

For what I know the 9x21 is an israeli cartridge (complete name is 9x21 IMI). 9x21 cartridge uses the same bullets and powders of the 9x19, so performance is the same. Infact the overall lenght is the same, so the internal volume for the powder is the same. Naturally a 9x21 pistols can shoot a 9x19 but a 9x19 pistol can't shoot a 9x21. When you shoot a 9x19 in a 9x21 pistol you have some loss of accuracy and the extractor works a little more; no other problems. So the real point is that police and Army can't use civilian cartridges...Don't ask me why we have a stupid law like that. I could be wrong but I remember that even Spain and Turkey have a similar law.

Tritium is legal in Italy but not in Germany...

The P30S is actually not imported in Italy but is on my wish list (even better will be the P30L); thanks for the deep description of it. The new Walther P99 with ambi slide release is 99% my next purchase: I've ordered it two weeks ago and I'm waiting a call from my gunshop this month.


Best regards, 5-SHOTS.
 
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The P99 was my favorite pistol for years until I bought my P30 a few weeks ago. Now, I like them both the same and I'd consider them equal as far as quality and accuracy in my hands, with the better trigger going to the Walther. I'd suggest the "AS" (DA/SA) trigger variant. If they ever import the P99 with ambidextrous controls here where I am, I would be one of the first ones to buy it since I am a lefty as well. This is the best review/comparison I have found for the P99: http://forum.pafoa.org/general-2/9149-walther-p99-review.html
 
balance 740, I really thank you. And I thank all other members that have posted and will post here. You can see the new Walther P99 AS and the new PPQ on the Walther official site www.carl-walther.de. The new P99 has also extended magazine release levers and all steel "glow in the dark sights". Ambi slide release levers are similar to the HK's ones. I think I'll love it.

Best regards, 5-SHOTS.
 
I've read that some countries prohibit military ammunition and Italy must be one, hence the 9x21 on the slide. Nice pistol, but finding ammo here would be tough.
 
5-SHOTS,

thanks for taking the time to write this detailed report.
I recently test-fondled a P30 at a Gun Show and I agree-
this must be the most ergonomic gun ever.
My HK USPc feels like a 2X4 in comparison.
I did get used to the LEM trigger but I think I go
back to the good old DA/SA trigger.
I wish the new Walther PPQ did not have a striker
either.
Pricing has always been an issue with HK,
the lowest I have seen is $831 for the .40S&W.
I think they are worth it and they keep their value.
Just look at prices for surplus HK P7s!
Does anyone know if USP compact magazines will
fit a P30?
 
Zerstoerer: for what I know USP Compact magazines fit in the P2000 series but not in the P30. The P30 magazine holds 15 rounds in 9mm instead of 13 and probably are different in the body.

Best regards, 5-SHOTS.
 
The P30 uses 15rd mags, the USPc and the P2000 both use the same 13rd mags, and the P2000sk uses 10rd mags.

The P30 15rd mags fit in the USPc, the P2000, and the P2000sk.
The USPc/P2000 13rd mags fit in the P2000sk.
The P2000sk 10rd mags only fit in the P2000sk.

You cannot fit a P2000sk mag in a USPc/P2000.
You cannot fit a USPc/P2000 mag in a P30.
 
That is good to know - maybe I should get some P30 mags for my USPc to increase it to 15 rounds and then have a reason to get a P30 since I already have the magazines...
 
I tried a 9mm P30 yesterday and was very impressed.

Great ergonomics, very accurate, smooth shooter. The one I shot had the LEM trigger and while it was very unique in the way it pulled, it was easy to get the feel after a couple rounds. There may be one of these in my future.
 
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