Heckler & Koch USP

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A local pawn shop has Heckler & Koch USP 9mm that I have been looking at. I browsed Gun Broker to see how his price compared and it is well below anything listed on there.

The concern that I have is that out of the many USPs listed on Gun Broker very few have bids on them. :confused: Is there something that I should know about this pistol? Are they not liked very much? Why are there so many without bids?

He also has a Glock 17 priced well below anything on Gun Broker. Which of these would be the better gun?

Thanks in advance for any info.
 
IMHO, the H&K USP is a bit big for 9mm pistol. I prefer the USP Compact's form-factor.

The only thing that I don't like about mine is the trigger. Double-action is heavy. Its single action is not crisp.

If you search THR, there is some report that you may break the pistol, if you dry-fry too much (which is easy to do because of it is double-action.) I don't remember exactly, it may have been that the firing-pin falls off. On the other hand, the Glock is harder to dry-fry, since you have to rack the slide each time. :)

May I ask you how much it is? I assume that it is used, correct?
 
The USP is liked very much and considered to be a good pistol. I'm sure you'll get all sorts of good info from actual USP owners so I'll leave that to them. I rented a USP .40 and shot quite a few rounds through it and liked it a lot. I was going to buy one in .45 but I wanted it in the left handed variant and that would have taken about 60 to order so I went with the more lefty friendly P2000 in .40 (since they don't make it in .45) and it's pretty similar to the USP.
 
I have a H&K USP 40 Compact. I also found mine LNIB (like new in the box) in a sporting goods/pawn shop for $515.00. Well made pistol, good accuracy, but is not as pleasing to the eye as some other pistols. Maybe thats why the price is such a good deal?
 
Nothing wrong with the USP. They are great guns. The USP .45 Compact is my current all around home defense pistol and winter CCW. Every USP I've owned has been rock solid reliable and very accurate.
 
Just started carrying my USP .45 full size around again because of the cold weather. $490....if it's in pretty good condition I'd buy it. But that's me, if you want it, go get it. Well worth it IMO, so long as it's not in bad condition.
 
I had a USP .45 for a while (sold it to buy a 9mm 1911). It was an excellent gun, but as mentioned before, it is BIG, but that's only a problem if you plan on carrying it. If you can get a good price on one in 9mm, I'm sure you would be happy with it.
 
The USP is my favorite gun I have ever owned or fired.

The DA trigger is a bit heavy, but I'd imagine this is intentional to prevent AD's. SA trigger is much, much better than you will find on pretty much any other polymer pistol.

What I really love about the USP is that it gives you the option to carry the gun in various conditions depending on your preference. You can carry it cocked and locked a la a 1911, decocked with the safety off a la a SIG or decocked with the safety on which is the condition I prefer.

The only drawback I see to the USP's are the size. A full size USP is better suited to those who have larger hands. If your hands are on the smaller side, check out the compact models.

As far as the comparison to the G17, I have owned both and much prefer the USP. Not to say that the Glock isn't a fine, fine weapon, it is, but I personally like the USP.

Try to handle and shoot one before purchasing to see if it fits you. If it does, and you decide to purchase it, rest assured you have just acquired one of the finest pistols available. Of course this is just my opinion, others may feel differently.

For more info on USP's, check out HKPRO.com forums. The guys over there are awfully knowledgeable about all things HK.

Hope this helps.
 
Have the USP .40 full size and love it. Over the course of all of the rounds put downrange through it, I haven't had even one malfunction. Reloads to top line, all went through very well indeed. Yes, the trigger is a little heavy and long in DA, but it's nothing that you even notice after a while. Not as hard to conceal as one would think with a quality IWB holster on it. The newer tuckable styles make it pretty easy to wear under a looser shirt even when tucked in. Untucked is even easier.
Good luck!
 
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Can't beat a USP.
Anything under $500, I'd consider a OK deal.
I would offer him $450 out the door and see if he bites, or go from there.
Good luck.
Dylan
 
I was shooting at Bass Pro shops one day. There were two tall, large, black men ( I refuse to say "African-American" because none of them will refer to me as "Scotch, French, English, Hungarian-American. I'm just a honky.) shooting and they both had H&K's. I hate to admit it but they scared me the way they were shooting - fast and very accurate. Being a jerk, the first thing that came to my mind was that they were drug dealers from South Dallas.

They left before I did, and when I left I mentioned my suspecions to the Range Officer. Knowing me well, he replied: "You idiot; they better be good, they are Air Marshals."

So at the time I didn't own any H&K's, but I figured if it was good enough for them... I now own 3: Elite in 9mm, Expert in 45 ACP, and P30 in 9mm. Oh, make that 4 if you include the carbine in 45 ACP. Yeah, I like H&K and I shoot the expert as well as I do my Wilson CQB (1911).
 
I have 3 HKs and really like them.

One thing I'm surprised no one has mentioned yet when looking at used HK guns!! The price of a used HK will increase or decrease in respect to what year the gun is made in. This gives gun shops as well as shoppers a very rough idea of how many rounds the barrel may have seen. With that said, I'm going to guess this particular gun you are looking at is a 2002 or lower. You can check the date the gun was mfg'd in by looking at the left hand side of the gun .

Date codes in case you don't know:
A = 0
B = 1
C = 2
D = 3
E = 4
F = 5
G = etc....

For example a gun stamped "AF" is a 2005 model. I believe the 0-9 number scheme repeats again at K. Can anyone confirm this?
 
I may be mistaken, but I think the border patrol now issues the .40 USP compact to their uniformed officers. I have a USP and USPc in .40 and love them - best, most reliable pistols I have ever had. I think I paid $300 for mine USP NIB back in '94 and I paid $700 NIB for my USPc last year. They go bang every time and put 'em right where I aim.
 
I bought my USP45 because my friends was so darn reliable. Mine has been the same.

That being said, in 9mm I would go with the P2000. The USP is a bit large for a 9mm in my opinion.

On the other hand $490 is a great price on a USP in good condition. If I was looking for a 9mm, I would stop right there.
 
If I could find a valid reason to own yet another 9mm I would buy a USP 9.
I already own a USP Elite in .45 acp.
$490 is a decent deal.
The only drawback I have with H&K pistols is that spare magazines are extremely expensive.
Twice what Glock magazines will cost you.
If the gun comes with more than one spare magazine, count your blessings and make the deal.
 
Buy P2000 instead. HK has P30 out as well but it same as P2000 with higher tag.
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This is correct.. except for the grips.. the sights... the mag capacity.. the different mag release leaver... I would guess that the trigger is the same, except the trigger in the P30 feels a lot better than the one in the P2000. But they both have HK on the slide. That's the same! ;)
 
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