Heh, rifle CCW?

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Skunk- heh, well I guess you could try and see what happens. My CCW was issued by the county sheriff’s office; they require during the range qualification that you draw from the holster which you are going to be carrying regularly (which is why I couldn’t get my NAA .32 Guardian on my permit, I didn’t have a holster for it. I was just going to put it into a pocket.)

I’d love to see the holster for the Benelli. Perhaps some sort of ‘Mad Max’ thigh drop-rig. Might make scoring the B27 a little more challenging as well.

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I dunno... that AR pistol is looking mighty cool... especially in a necked up bullet that won't care quite so much that it's being sent out a 6" or so barrel. :D

-K
 
If he has to use it how many innocents will he hit when he sprays that 75 rounds on a busy street, or even an empty one??

Rifles would case fewer problems for bystanders, as they are more accurate. And the purpose of carrying a rifle would be to have range, accuracy and pnetration of cover for atypical defensive situations (i.e. rampager at a vantage point or multiple attackers).
 
In my state, CCW is limited to a "handgun" of "45 caliber" or less. So, you could carry a TC Encore in .45-70, but not a 50AE Desert Eagle, I guess.
Isn't there also a regulation for OK that limits overall length? A friend of mine said 11", but I've not been able to confirm this...:confused:
 
Oleg,

Rifles would case fewer problems for bystanders, as they are more accurate. And the purpose of carrying a rifle would be to have range, accuracy and pnetration of cover for atypical defensive situations (i.e. rampager at a vantage point or multiple attackers).

So this makes sense to you? Yes, it may cause fewer problems for bystanders in that 1-in-1,000,000,000 shootout across the mall parking lot, but I bet it'll cause a lot more problems for bystanders in those many-times-a-day instances where he bruises their shins with his Concealed Commando Case...

I ain't sayin' he don't have the right to do it, but I also ain't sayin' I don't have the right to point and laugh and make snickering "Rambo commando" jokes... :uhoh:
 
Hmmm...how about an XP100 Repeater in a shoulder holster:evil:

seriously, unless the guy could readily explain to the police why he was so heavily armed (suitcase full of legal cash) I think he's in trouble most anywhere.
 
As has been mentioned... 10lbs of gun shouldn't, and won't get carried much. Knock yourself out.
If he lived in Compton, or Zimbabwe... don't ask permission. Oh, and bring all your friends with guitar cases. :D (shameless movie reference)

-Morgan
 
With a CCW it would be legal in Florida. Sounds like a giant hastle to me though. I doubt he would do it more then a few times. If he keeps at it for a couple months though his arms are gonna be pretty strong.
 
Well I see that some folks dont agree with my points as to why AK carry is a bad idea.

I have an SAR-1 with a sling myself and I am not against using one for self defense, but it would be in a SHTF situation or in a riot where I am defending a fixed location or if I had to go out on patrol to get milk for the kids, or I knew or suspected that the bad guys would be carring heavy hardware. In these situations I want it visible on a sling for fast access.

For normal everyday carry the idea is self defense, and concealment. I like the tactical advantage of having a weapon concealed, but easy to access in an inconspicuous manner. An AK in a guitar case has serious tactical disadvantages for a normal CCW situation.

Heres how I see a typical defense situation Walking down the street and two muggers approach, I stick my hand in my pocket and draw a gun bang bang, muggers down, they never saw it coming. Or they take me unawares and say give me you wallet I put hand in pocket to comply and come up with a firing 9mm Surprise.!!!!

Your friend, places guitar case on ground undoes all four latches raises lid, hmmmmmm, the mugger see and relieve him of the AK, or they knock him to the ground and take his guitar so they can sell it for crack.

To quickly access it in a surprise situation he would need to carry it slung, so then the muggers leave him alone, but lets face it in most cities in the US he would find himself facing the SWAT team cause it would alarm the sheeple.

Thats reality.

As far as accuracy and safety, folks here are always saying that overpenetration is a huge problem, with PISTOL bullets. The AK round is fmj (even the soft and hollow points dont expand often) and 2400 fps, if he makes a hit on his first shot and fires no more, the bullet will go through the perp and be traveling fast enough to kill a child or an old lady 50 yards away.
 
If your friend really wants such high volume, why not get a Glock 17? With the +2,+3, or +5 magazine extensions available at Glockmeister, he could carry as many as 23 rounds just in the pistol itself. With a Blackhawk triple mag pouch he easily carry a total of 89 rounds. Then he could be his own fire team.

I happen to be quite happy with two seventeen round mags plus one in the chamber, for a total of 35 rounds.
 
here here, I agree w/ pretty much all that is being said.
However, instead of AK in a guitar case, I'd recommend an SMLE with the barrel cut down to 18", stock replaced with a light synthetic stock, and placed into a smaller case. It wouldn't be such a chore to lug around and if the SHTF while he was out for milk, he could lay down 303 brit out to 300 yds. Plus if the boys in blue decided to screw with him, all they could seize is a junky 125 dollar milsurp rifle instead of an AK + drum combo which is an autoforfeit.


atek3
 
You would not need a permit to carry them in the guitar case. As long as you are not carrying either one on your person. It would be the same as taking your pistol to the range in a range bag or your rifle in a rifle case. The guitar case has been used to cut down on attention. Just make sure they are unloaded. Remember the Thompson SMG and violin cases? I believe Auto Ordnance still makes the violin carry case for the Thompson.
 
I actually asked my CCW instructor about this, just for fun. you see, during our long, cold Michigan winters, i wear a trench coat. either an army issue wool gabardine, or a leather one. I also plan on getting a Garand soon. and, coincidentally, I noticed that Beretta made folding stocks that fit a Garand. so, my next thought was "hey! with a folding stock and the proper holster, I could carry a Rifle, .30 cal, M1 under my trench, and no-one would be the wiser!"



unfortunately, in michigan it is a "concealed pistols licence"






(but can you imagine the look on the "perp"'s face when you pull a .30-06 on him?? :what: :what: priceless.)
 
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