Help me pick an upper

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Finally decided to get a upper to go with the AR lower I bought almost a year ago. I'm looking for a flattop receiver, indifferent to the front sight and 16" barrel. I plan to use it for target shooting, and probably some tactical shooting as well. Doesn't need to be super high quality, I'm just looking for a good upper for a good price. Looking to spend about 4-600. I'll mostly be shooting 55 or 62gr in it. I do reload, but don't see any situations when I'd be loading the heavier bullets.

Which rate of twist should I get, or does it matter? I'm considering between the three companies below, does anyone have any recommendations for which of the three, or a similar product? Is Rock River quality worth the extra money?

http://www.surplusammo.com/complete-uppers/

http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=259

http://palmettostatearmory.com/2096.php
 
Rainier Arms is who I deal with for most all AR stuff. They have good prices, and they don't sell junk; they also only deal in AR and AR derivatives for the most part. They don't carry a few items I like, but they have most of the good stuff, rather, what they do have is all good stuff. They sell Rock River, but along with White Oak and Stag, are considered quality "commercial". They consider the LMT and the Noveske the "military grade". From being able to look at them all in their showroom (it is more of a showroom than a gun shop) and compare them, I have to agree. The Noveske is certainly the best, they use hammer forged SAW blanks that are double chromed for their M4 barrels. Pretty tough.

I went with an LMT upper, 14.5", it was $485 I think. Probably close to $600 out the door with the bolt and carrier. I had them blind pin an AAC Brakeout for a suppressor mount and to bring the overall length to over 16". They did a GREAT job, almost invisible, for less than ADCO would have. This barrel shoots very well, I am quite satisfied with it. Nice tight groups, but I've only had it out once and haven't nailed down the perfect combo with it. Still, a dime size group at 50m the first time out and less than 50 rounds down the tube ain't bad. It has a 1/7 twist, I prefer that, and if you use 62gr. it will work great with those. It will work with 55's fine too, but shines with 62, 75, and 77 in my opinion. The Hornady T1 is a good reloaders bullet in 75gr.

You could get this same upper in 16" though, and not deal with welding the suppressor mount. Also, if you plan on changing sights or handguards, permanently installing the mount isn't such a great idea. But my rifle is a copy of a military M4 for the most part and has regular KAC rails, not FF.

The LMT stuff is good quality and looks just like the military issue stuff I got, maybe even better. This is compared to Colt. I'm real happy with my upper and build, it works like a charm. I used a Noveseke lower and M4 buttstock along with a Geissele 3gun trigger and JP Ent. lower parts minus trigger/hammer. I used an LMT carrier and bolt (or it could be DD --mil spec either way). JP makes GREAT parts btw, I have their "Tactical" bolt carrier in another rifle, a Grendel, and it is the bees knees. If you can swing one of those in an LMT upper, that would be very sweet. It is easily the best made carrier, period. Slick, no machine marks, tight tolerance. You didn't say if you had a trigger or not, but you can polish a DPMS for a good single stage stock trigger, a RRA 2 stage, polished, for a nice cheap 2 stage target trigger (I love mine) and of course, Geissele, who make a trigger for every application.

Either way, go check out Rainier Arms or give 'em a call. They will also help you build what you want, they can put it together right there in their shop if you go with parts instead of a complete upper.
 
Which rate of twist should I get, or does it matter? I'm considering between the three companies below, does anyone have any recommendations for which of the three, or a similar product? Is Rock River quality worth the extra money?
Anything 1:9 or faster will shoot your desired bullet weights.

I have no idea what SAA's build quality is. Rock River cuts too many corners for the prices they want. PSA looks great on paper, and they get great reviews. I'd buy from PSA before I bought anything RRA, Oly, or DPMS. You could get a Spikes Tactical upper which is very high quality, and at $500 is right in the middle of your price range - http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=...M4/Product/M4-FLATTOP-UPPER-RECEIVER-ASSEMBLY - other places should have it in stock, but that at least lets you see what it looks like. If you just wanna go cheap, you could buy a DPMS upper on sale for $360 from Midway - http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/Bro...619***11625***21021***&sortBy=RetailPrice asc . DPMS quality is hit or miss, but Midway will take care of you if you get a bad one.
 
take a look at the DPMS Sportical Nato at around $400, good buy and mine is very accurate with a EO Tech 512 on it...
 
Bcm 16" midlength with a magpul handguard would be my choice. Your near the top of your budget but you def. get quality and a solid company to deal with.

M dealings with rainier arms have also been very positive.
 
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