Help me purchase handgun please!!!

[newbie4help]

Thanks techno. I will definitely take at least an NRA style course in handgun safety, and follow those four rules.

 

[doc2rn]

The one and only way I can think of is to get it from another private owner. Usually by responding to an add in a paper, or the shooting news, otherwise it's wait till break.

 

[NGIB]

Wow, 19 posts in a bit over 2 hours. Am I the only one that's concerned about being this wound up to get a pistol? And with a 17 round mag and no safety as the first choice? I'm probably just a bit paranoid but the alarm bells started going off in my head...

 

[NGIB]

This fella really wants a pistol bad, check the other thread started about the same time. My sage advice is to wait to make a legal purchase and take a basic handgun safety course...

 

[Macmac]

There is a little bell going off over here in New Hampsta'!

There is all sorts of things way out of normal here. He is just legal age according to him and a student, in a real hurry, no history with gun safety, who wonders if guns are dangerous.

Lives on campus??? Has no understanding of any law about anything dealing with guns and any delay is a hassel?


He likely can not have any gun and live in any dorms... not on any campus dorms anyway under the LAW as they are now.

My take is a child who must have what he must have no matter the LAW, to be joe cool..

Sorry Kiddo not buyin the BS... Mac

 

[Lichter]

I go to school in VA and the only way I can get a handgun is with my C&R license

 

[Navy87Guy]

The only exception for the purchase of a handgun by a non-resident of a state is for active duty military on permanent duty orders to the other state. For example, I was a resident of Connecticut but with my orders and ID card, I could buy handguns in Virginia, where I am stationed. And to be honest, I don't know if that is a state regulation - so it may only be valid in Virginia.

Otherwise, your only option is to obtain the gun in Texas then transport it to your temporary location.

Jim

 

[kingpin008]

The one and only way I can think of is to get it from another private owner. Usually by responding to an add in a paper, or the shooting news, otherwise it's wait till break.

Someone else posted something similar to this in one of the other identical threads the OP has made, and I'll say it again:

Private FTF sales of handguns between residents of different states are ILLEGAL.

Please stop offering this as an option. If the OP is going to be prohibited from buying a handgun in MI because he's not a resident, he damn sure is prohibited from participating in a FTF deal with a MI resident.

 

[Trebor]

You have to be a Michigan resident to buy a handgun in Michigan under Federal law.

You also have to be a Michigan resident to buy or *possess* a handgun in Michigan under Michigan law.

That means don't buy a handgun in Texas and bring it back to Michigan. You'll be violating state law and can get in considerable trouble.

Btw, I hope you don't live in a dorm or in any campus student housing. You'll probably find possession of firearms on college/university property is not allowed.

Where are you in the state? I teach classes in Lansing and the Detroit areas.

 

[gazpacho]

Trebor

If you have to be a resident to possess a handgun in MI, then how does the state handle CCW reciprocity?

 

[gunsmith]

using a gun can be very dangerous

I just called up local police

If cops knew a lot about law, we would call them "lawyers"
and pay them a lot better!

Can you give me basic rundown on safety?

Good question, we have the answer in the THR library see link at top of the page or click here
http://thehighroad.org/library/safetyrules.html

I would urge you to slow down a little and do some more research and go to an indoor range to rent some different guns to see which you like better.

Also be aware that many Colleges are places where only
criminals or cops can carry.
Here in Reno we have had a number of rapes on campus, in some cases the rapist uses a gun, but even though NV is shall issue it is a felony to carry a gun on campus.
Of course rape is also a felony but that didn't stop the rapist.
Registered sex offenders and convicted felons are also allowed to go to school, yet somehow a ccw holder with a background check and training is very scary to school officials.....:banghead:

 

[chrlefxtrt]

Troll? Maybe?

 

[rxraptor02]

gazpacho,

Non residents with CPL/CCW are allowed to have handguns if the ccw/cpl/ltc is from their home state.

non residents with a permit from a state other than your home state you cannot carry in Michigan.

If you move to the state and have a permit and handguns from your old home state then that gets kind of tricky.


newbie4help,

What Trebor said is true.

If your living in the state going to school, paying rent and other bills and want a pistol change over your Residency. Its not that hard to do. The secretary of state offices can be a pain depending on where you are. Some have longer lines than others. The earlier you go the better in most cases. I am not sure what the turn around time would be for your DL. You might be required to change over your plates for your car as well. I am not sure if you can get away with Texas plates..etc and a michigan DL.

There is also a Michigan forum that you can get great info from.

What city are you in?

-James

 

[DFW1911]

When I was "in" (the service) I bought in Virginia w/ my military ID and Texas Driver's License.

As Navy87Guy said, I don't know if this is a Virginia thing or federal.

Might be worth calling a couple of shops in the area to find out - most seem to really want to help those in the services.

Hope this helps.

DFW1911

 

[Trebor]

If you have to be a resident to possess a handgun in MI, then how does the state handle CCW reciprocity?

Michigan allows non-residents with a CCW permit to possess a handgun in Michigan as long as the permit is from their home state. If your permit is from a different state then your home state though your permit is not valid in Michigan.

(As I was typing I saw Rxraptor posted the same info)

 

[Macmac]

I have no idea if Michigan is reciprocal with NH or not, but if it is, then my NH permit would be honored in Michigan.

I for one, am glad you both posted because I had to read both posts twice to under stand.

I still don't like the tone in the original post.

 

[JeepGeeek]

the BS meter is PEGGED!

 

[cyclist]

The OP would be well advised to check into the local laws where he/she is currently residing before proceeding with this attempted/planned purchase, or with this class assignment, whichever the case may be.

And, yep, several cautionary alarms are sounding on this one.

 

[Trebor]

I have no idea if Michigan is reciprocal with NH or not, but if it is, then my NH permit would be honored in Michigan.

Michigan recognizes all other states permits as long as your specific permit is issued by your state of residence.

You can't carry on a Florida permit if you live in New Hampshire, for instance. But, if you are a New Hampshire resident, with a New Hampshire permit, you can carry in Michigan. (You have to follow Michigan law, of course, as to where you can and can't carry, etc.)

 

[Dallas239]

(B11) What constitutes residency in a State? [Back]

The State of residence is the State in which an individual is present; the individual also must have an intention of making a home in that State. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty is a resident of the State in which his or her permanent duty station is located. If a member of the Armed Forces maintains a home in one State and the member’s permanent duty station is in a nearby State to which he or she commutes each day, then the member has two States of residence and may purchase a firearm in either the State where the duty station is located or the State where the home is maintained. An alien who is legally in the United States is considered to be a resident of a State only if the alien is residing in that State and has resided in that State continuously for a period of at least 90 days prior to the date of sale of the firearm. See also Item 5, “Sales to Aliens in the United States,” in the General Information section of this publication.

[18 U.S.C. 921(b), 922(a) (3), and 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.11]


(B12) May a person (who is not an alien) who resides in one State and owns property in another State purchase a handgun in either State? [Back]

If a person maintains a home in 2 States and resides in both States for certain periods of the year, he or she may, during the period of time the person actually resides in a particular State, purchase a handgun in that State. However, simply owning property in another State does not qualify the person to purchase a handgun in that State.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm

 

[tblt]

get a friend to buy you onethen buy it from him.Write up a bill of sale and all when he sells it to you this should cover him just in case you shoot someone

 

[NGIB]

get a friend to buy you onethen buy it from him.Write up a bill of sale and all when he sells it to you this should cover him just in case you shoot someone

This sure isn't advice I'd give this fella as it basically describes a straw purchase which I'm sure you're aware is a felony. This is The High Road and the advice we provide should at least be legal...

 

[tblt]

I did not know this was against the law I have known people to do this.

 

[kingpin008]

Wow, since when do we have so many people advocating illegal activity on THR? Up higher in the thread we have some advocating illegal FTF sales, now another suggesting straw buys.

This thread needs to be locked - the OP has gotten his answers, as well as a few really, really bad suggestions. Do we really need to go further?

 

[NGIB]

I did not know this was against the law I have known people to do this.

People do illegal stuff all the time, doesn't make it right. When you fill out the block of the 4473 certifying the purchase is for YOU - they mean it.

I agree we need to lock this puppy as it's becoming a model of bad advice...