Help Please- Never Owned a Revolver

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Pharley

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Looking for a small, compact revolver, preferrably 6 shot, to carry concealed. Dont want to spend too much, and would be willing to purchase a good, used, reliable gun. Any recommendations on a make, model, and where I can find a decent used revolver would be appreciated. I have a couple sub-compact Glocks, but would like something smaller and more easily concealable for the Summer.
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For 6-shot, try a Colt Detective Special. They're no longer made, but you can find them on www.gunsamerica.com.

If you're willing to go with a 5-shot cylinder, I'd go with the Ruger SP 101 in .357 with the 3 1/16" barrel. I bought one of these for my daughter, and wish I'd kept it for myself.;)
 
Find a used Colt's Agent or Cobra. In the alternative a S&W model 12 with a 2" tube. ;)
 
Hold the phone

You want a 6 shot wheel gun smaller and lighter than a baby glock? Closest thing I can think of is a S&W air weight, I think that's the model 12 with a 2 inch tube. It's still going to be larger than a Glock 26.

Good hunting.
 
I just picked up a used Colt Cobra in great shape for $200 from R M Vivas (Vivas & Son). His web site is http://64.227.196.27/main.html He has several Colt Cobras & Detective Specials around the $200 mark as well as other revolvers. I could not be happier with the Colt he sold me. Good luck.

:)
 
I carry an old model Charter Arms Undercover .38 with a 2" barrel. (You can tell the old model because ejector rod is usually unshrouded.) They were made in the 70's and 80's. Mine was made in 1973. This is a 5-shot, compact, .38 special. Empty weight is 16 ounces. Used ones in excellent condition sell for $150-$175. Check gunbroker.com and auctionarms.com which are online gun auctions. Keep in mind you will have to pay for shipping and for your dealer to transfer gun to you. Best place to buy is at a gun shop because the only additional cost is sales tax.
 
OK, let's start with the basics.

The most common small revolvers are the S&W "J-Frames"...these are usually 38Spl (five-shot) but have recently been slightly upgraded to 357Mag (also a five-shot).

In stainless or blue steel they're between 19 and 21 ounces. Various ligher variants exist all the way down to 10.5oz in 38Spl and 12.5oz in 357. Regardless of 38Spl or 357, they eat out of the same speedloaders (similar cylinder dimensions, same "hole pattern").

There are also variants of the same frame size in 32H&RMagnum as a six-shot. These can use the same holsters, and the 32Maggie is a respectable little performer almost on par with the 38Spl.

Many, MANY "functional clones" of the S&W Js exist. The Charter Undercover and various Taurus five-shooters (and 32Mag sixguns) are typical. The Ruger SP101 is a "J-class near-clone" in that it eats from the same speedloaders, but is just a bit bulkier and a LOT tougher than all other snubbies...and also weigh more at 26oz or similar. Still, the SP101 soaks up full-house 357 recoil better than any other snub and it's tougher than most of the S&W larger-size-frame (the "K").

S&W has gone lightweight recently with expensive Scandium/Aluminum alloys, with trace amounts of $6000-a-pound scandium strengthening aluminum. Taurus competes in the lightweight arena mostly with titanium.

The Colt "Dick Special" was a 38Spl (usually) sixgun a bit bigger than the Js. It was finely made and known for accuracy, but had a somewhat finicky action that could go out of time. Aluminum variants: Cobra and Agent. I'm not sure I'd recommend these for the newbie or somebody who wants to shoot a lot.

The next step bigger is the S&W K-Frame sixguns in 38Spl and 357. These are sometimes found in short-barreled formats down to 2", and a few (model 12s) had aluminum frames. (Like all early-model aluminum-frame guns including the Cobra/Agent, 38+P ammo isn't recommended and the "checkout procedure" is particularly critical - if the gun has any "endshake" it will beat itself to death in short order.)

"+P" in 38Spl means about 10% over the standard 38Spl pressure spec, and is hence usually a bit more potent.

So...what to get?

We're currently seeing a revolution in 38+P ammo. New loads by Speer (135grain Gold Dot+P), Cor-Bon (100grain Pow'R'Ball+P) and Bufallo Bore (158grain lead hollowpoint at a bat-outta-hell 1,000fps from a 2" barrel) show a lot of promise (although in some cases more test data would be good). Existing 38+P loads ain't bad even from a 2", such as the Winchester 130grain Supreme, Speer 125Gold Dot +P and the Winchester or Remington 158 lead hollowpoint +P (about 850fps from a 2" barrel). To shoot a lot of these, you want a steel-framed 38Spl of fairly recent make, a late-model "+P rated" lightweight or a true 357-rated gun. Some pieces like early S&W steel guns or the aforementioned Charter Arms Undercover will be OK with a light diet of +Ps (couple cylinders a month or so) and most practice done with standard-pressure target/plinking loads.

A lot of people use good 38+P defensive loads even in 357s, for better controllability and less indoor kaboom. Don't dismiss a good 38 snubbie as a personal defensive weapon.

That said: 357s are hotter, and tougher. If you can handle the higher carry weight, they'll be more controllable.
 
For a 6 shot a Colt Detective Special. Although they can be kind of pricey these days. I have a S&W 637 that I use for the summer. The price can be very reasonable on used ones .
 
I can't reccomend the Ruger SP-101 highly enough. The gun just plain works.
 
It's difficult to find a better revolver than the Ruger SP 101. As you say, they work. They shoot well, they're indestructable, small enough to conceal easily, heavy enough to be comfortable to shoot with full charge loads, and every one I've shot put it's shots right on top of the front sight.
 
442/642 Airweights. "Hammerless" and very lightweight design give these little guns greater versatility WRT carrying options. You can securely carry the little Smiths while dressed in nothing more than tank tops and running shorts.

Downside: You're going to have to practice alot to be proficient.
 
Downside: You're going to have to practice alot to be proficient.

Not to totally hijack the thread, but does anyone have any advice or sources on how to become proficient with the snub? Any advice ("practice, practice, practice" being a given) appreciated.
 
Well i have found that dry-firing a LOT would be the best thing. Focus on the front sight and work on keeping it centered throught a smooth deliberate trigger pull. I have dry-fired my SP-101 THOUSANDS of times while watching television and have found that it helps a ton.

Also i have found that loading three holes with .38s and two with empty casings (you can throw a .357 in the mix too if you like) will REALLY help deal with the any flinching that you might develope (watch how much the pistol moves when you get a click instead of a bang).
 
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