Help! SKS Trigger question?

[Meanoldfart]

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A lot of you from TFL know that I have been doing SKS trigger tune-ups for several years.
I am thinking of offering a new deluxe trigger group as a drop-in replacement. A lot of you do not like the idea of altering your original trigger.
The deluxe trigger would be a new milled group that has been:
Tuned up and given the best trigger pull possible.
Includes a new hammer spring to further reduce pull wieght
along with an original spring in case you have a problem
with hard primers.
Case- hardening of the sear and hammer engagment surfaces
to insure long life.
Installation of an adjustable trigger stop to prevent over-travel.

I can offer these for $114.95.

I would offer to do the same work on your trigger for $64.95.
Give me some feedback here, is anyone interested and do you think it is a good offer?

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Golden Rule of History "Those With The Weapons Make The Rules"

 

[Preacherman]

I'd be interested, but there are two problems:

1. Your price is high, especially compared to drop-in "match" triggers for other rifles. Can it be lowered by 30% to 50% and remain economically viable to produce?

2. Will your trigger group fit all SKS's? I've seen some pretty broad manufacturing tolerances, and also local adaptations, so that in my experience, parts from a Norinco were unlikely to "drop-fit" into a Yugoslavian SKS at least 50% of the time. If you try to make a "one-size-fits-all" trigger group, will it really "fit all"?

 

[Meanoldfart]

1. The SKS trigger group is very complicated and expensive to produce, so buying a new one is costly and then I have to add several hours of labor and some parts. No way to do the deluxe job any cheaper. My basic tune-up on your trigger is $30.00 +
$6.00 S&I. For more details, email me at: [email protected]

2. I am reasonable sure that they will fit all variations

 

[Monte Harrison]

I don't think you would get many takers, considering that you can get Yugo SKS's in very good condition for about that much money.

 

[Meanoldfart]

You may be Right

Spending a $115.00 on a rifle that you just paid $150.00 for sounds stupid, except for two things.
If you bought the rifle to shoot and you want to get the most out of it and it requires some work or accesories.
For example, no one thinks anything about buying a $500.00
Mod. 700 and then putting a $400.00 scope on it and having
a gunsmith tune the trigger for another $100.00.

The other thing is, I don't put dollar signs on everything based on what it is worth to someone else.
For example, in 1965, I bought a Sears & Roebuck 30-06, with
a scope and gun case for $125.00. After shooting it and
finding out it would shoot .5 moa, I wouldn't take $1000.00
for it, then or NOW. No one would give me $200.00 for
the whole rig because it's a Sears, but it does everything a
a $1500.00 custom rifle will do.
This is just my perspective of course.

 

[Mike Irwin]

My suggestion would be that you do like DC Guns used to do (they may still do it).

Offer cleaned up and smoothed original milled triggers.

"For example, no one thinks anything about buying a $500.00
Mod. 700 and then putting a $400.00 scope on it and having
a gunsmith tune the trigger for another $100.00."

You're right, and it's simply because the Model 700 is a LOT more useful, capable, versatile, and generally accurate, in any of its caliber guises than the SKS is.

People generally think of the SKS as a plinker, no more, no less. The 700, on the other hand, is considered to be a serious hunting/sporting gun. No wonder people are willing to put more money in to them.

Good luck with your project.

 

[DMK]

Meanoldfart, how would be a complete replacement be better than simply sending you my original trigger assy. for the $64 refurb and trigger job?

Also, I've got another trigger question: Is there anyway to make the trigger break farther forward? Both my Yugos break so far back that my finger hits the safety lever before the rifle fires. It's kind of distracting to say the least.

 

[oldfart]

From one oldfart to another:
Improving the trigger on the SKS is certainly a worthwhile project, but it isn't all that difficult. I own 3 SKSs and 4 trigger groups. I strip one down, polish the appropriate surfaces, even case-harden them if needed, install an over-travel screw and-- when neccesary-- shorten the length of the sear to allow a shorter over-all pull.
It ain't rocket science or brain surgery and anyone who can read can do it too.
I think you should just stick to rebuilding those triggers that people send you for refurbishing.

 

[Meanoldfart]

DMK, the only "advantage" to the complete new assembly is if you don't want your original t.g. changed. A lot of people have said that they would like to have a better trigger but don't want work done on the original, especially the overtravel screw which is tapped into the trigger guard and is visible.
A lot of Yugos I have worked on have had the trigger transfer bar filed on, they are noticably shorter that the Chinese or Russian.
I don't know why they are this way. A new, longer transfer bar would fix the problem. It may be possible to weld a little on the end of the transfer bar and then shape it to fit.

oldfart, you are right, it is not brain surgery, but most SKS triggers have a negative sear-hammer engagment. Do you change it to positive to eliminate the danger of the hammer jarring off with the safety on?