Help, Talk me outta gettin G36

[SnakeEater]

I have no idea why but I've suddenly been hit with the urge to purchase a G36. I have absolutely no experience with Glocks, other than shooting a mags worth through a G19 some time ago. I am an HK fanboy but HK does not have a .45 this size. Can anybody give me a reason NOT to buy it? :banghead:

 

[boing]

Cuz it's everything the G30 is...but so much less?

 

[45Badger]

It's plastic, and kinda ugly.

 

[JERRY]

talk you out of it? boy, whats wrong with you?!

ive got two g36's.......

 

[MyRoad]

The G36 was my first Glock, it's on my hip right now. I also have a G32, and will probably get a 30 and maybe even a 26 eventually. I started with SIGs, and I still love them, and if I'm just going shooting for the fun of it, nothing beats a 1911. But when it comes to concealed carry, for me nothing beats a Glock. My Kahr K40 comes close, but I haven't had the time to get 100% comfortable with the long trigger pull.

I don't regret getting the 36, but the 30 does have some obvious advantages: 4 more rounds in the magazine, and if you are a little paranoid or like to be extra prepared, the G21 15 round magazines will work with the 30, so you can carry a "big stick" for backup should your initial 10+1 not be enough...

As far as small platform .45's go, I've owned a Beretta Mini-Cougar 8045, a Kimber Eclipse Ultra, and I've fired a SIG P245. All great guns, but I find the G36 the easiest to live with day to day -- for carry, anyway.

 

[bodu]

I second plastic and ugly.

 

[esldude]

Pretty soon everybody will have a G36. Now if everybody stuck their head in the fire, would you do it too? Don't you want to be different?

 

[71Commander]

It'll melt.

 

[denfoote]

I too have a G36!!!

Glock 36: Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated!!!

 

[hnm201]

I have a G21, two G30s and a G36. Ugly. Plastic. So reliable that they're almost boring. Very easy for me to shoot accurately. They're not the pistol that you'll wear on your belt in a fancy rig at the barbeque, but they are efficient, inexpensive and dependable bullet launching appliances, which is all you really need for ccdw. I'd put a glock 36 up against any sub 4" 1911 any day for comparison in terms of carry-ability and reliability. That being said, the only other gun besides my glock .45s that I would want to carry would be a 1911 gm or commander.\

Glock 36 = 26.5oz loaded!

 

[car541]

Because the 32 is a better gun. 14 rounds of 357 sig vs 6 rounds of 45 in the same size pistol? Its not that its a bad gun, glock just makes better ones. (like the 30)

If it absolutely positively must be a 45, oK, but otherwise, you can do better.

 

[Preacherman]

Keep your eye on the SHOT Show in January. A little bird tells me that we'll be seeing G23- and G27-sized guns in .45 GAP. Now, a little 6- or 7-shot .45 in a G27 form factor... drool!

 

[Erich]

Well, that's interesting, Preacherman.

I suppose I'd still rather have the G36 for a couple of reasons: it's slimmer than a G27, though not by much (I have both), and it's actually a .45 - you know, an honest-to-goodness .45. Easy to buy anywhere, cases of it sitting around my house. The slimmer but longer (front-to-back) G36 frame fits my hand better than does the shorter (front-to-back and up-and-down) but fatter micro-Glock frame. The G27-sized GAP would probably be easier to conceal in some scenarios (like a SmartCarry) since the butt is so much shorter than that of a G36, and I've always found the G26/27/33 to be the absolute upper limit for pocket carry.

Anyway, I'm happy with my G36 in .45 (as well as my micro-Glocks), so I'm not really the one to talk anyone out of buying one.

 

[dkochan]

Have you looked into a Cobra Enterprises Patriot 45? It is half the price of Glock 36, the same size and has less recoil than a Glock 36.

 

[R.H. Lee]

plastic too much muzzle flip no safety nd it ain't a 1911 why bother?

 

[SnakeEater]

......it ain't a 1911 why bother?

I said give me reasons NOT to buy one. IMHO not being a 1911 is a good thing.

 

[Logistar]

Uh... because it pinches your little finger every time you fire a round... or maybe... it doesn't have a rail.....

That said... I still like the one I shot a lot. I am actually considering one myself (along with an HK and the new Beretta in .45). - can't make up my mind.

 

[Sifu]

I had a G36. I wish I hadn't sold it. :banghead: I'll probably get another one. The G36 did pinch my finger , was a little large on the hip and I found that Glocks tend to shoot high compared to my 1911s. However, for a point & shoot self-defense weapon, Glocks are hard to beat. They disassemble easily and clean up quickly. I suggest you get one. They're not that expensive.

 

[Zundfolge]

Not a big fan of the Glocks (which is ironic since my CCW piece is a Steyr S40) ... but the G29,30 and 36 are all nice larger compact pistols ... if you must have .45 then I would recomend the 30 over the 36 because the 36 is not that much thinner then the 30 but packs 4 more rounds (and there is also the aforementioned advnangage of using the big mags from the G30s bigger brother the G21).



The only G36 I'm interested in is the one made by HK

 

[SAWBONES]

The G36 feels MUCH more compact in CCW than the G30.
I have two of each, so I have some reason to give an opinion.

If you're committed to a Glock (and I agree with the caliber choice of .45 ACP), the G36 wins for sake of weight and comfort (flatness).
Best.

 

[sabre2]

Hated my g36. Love my g27. The 27 does not pinch my finger, and the wider grip helps soak up the recoil. The g36 did feel better in my hand, but not when I was actually shooting it. The 36 mag bases are all of the extended type, unless that has changed since I sold mine. You don't have the option of the very short grip that the other mini glocks have. I also am much more accurate with the 27.
The 36 is thinner and lighter if that is what is most important to you.
I recomend that you shoot the 36 a lot before you buy. The things I did not like may not be a problem for you, but the 36 did not work out for me.
john

 

[taliv]

sure wish i could get an HK G36...

 

[albanian]

My brother has had a G-36 for a few years now and I have had time to really shoot it a lot and get to know it. I have not been impressed with it. Here are my reasons for not likeing it.

1. It does pinch your pinky during recoil. Very bothersome if you are trying to concentrate.

2. The recoil is the worst I have ever felt from a .45acp. I have shot some small .45acps like the AMT Backup and the Glock is far worse than any of them. It feels like a slap in the palm because the grip is uncomforatle and so much lighter than the slide. You get a whip like thing going on.

3. Accuracy is average to poor. I know that it is not a target gun and it is designed to shoot at close range but every other Glock I have shot has been more accurate than I was expecting while this one was less.

4. It really is not very small. I used to have a SIG 220 and I compared it to the G-36 side by side. The Glock is a fraction of an inch shorter in the slide and the grip and maybe a few onces less. The grip feels bigger and it is no slimmer than the 220.

5. $600 + for this gun? Flat out not worth the money when you consider all the other guns you can get for the same price or less. Some better guns IMHO, Kahr K-40, SIG 220, SIG 245.

 

[hnm201]

sig220 vs. glock 36

Sig 220 specs:
Length, overall 7.8"
Height, overall 5.6"
Width, overall 1.4"
Barrel length 4.4"
Rifling twist 1 in 16"
Rifling grooves 6
Sight radius 6.3"
Weight, w/o magazine 25.7 oz.
Weight, empty magazine 2.4 oz.

Glock 36 specs:
Length (slide) 6.77 in.
Height 2) 4.76 in.
Width 1.13 in
Length between sights 6.18 in.
Barrel length 3.78 in.
Barrel rifling right, octogonal
Length of twist 15.75 in.
Magazine capacity 6
Mass (weight) Empty without magazine 20.11 oz. 570 g
Empty magazine 2.40 oz.
Full magazine ~195 g

I think that the Sig 220 is a fine gun and I will probably own a P220 one day. I had a chance to shoot it recently and I can't say that I fell it love with it but the SA trigger was nice. I only have two complaints about Sig Sauers: After shooting 1911s and Glocks as long as I have, the Sig's bore axis seems high to me. Also, I don't like the transition from DA to SA.

As you can see, the Glock 36 has a shorter grip length and a slightly narrower slide than the P220. The Glock 36 weighs 5oz less and has a shorter overall length yet there is is only .12" different in sight radius (which is surpassed by the difference in slide width), favoring the sig. The Glock also weighs 5 oz less than a P220, which can make a difference in carryability to a person of a certain size. Personally I ccdw a Glock 30 everyday so the weight and thickness factors don't mean that much to me.

Regarding accuracy: many experience glock shooters will claim that the G36 and G30 have the greatest mechanical accuracy of any of their glocks. I realize that not everyone will experience the same practical accuracy with a Glock 36 or Glock 30 but I have personally seen some amazing groups shot from G36s and G30s at 50 yards, off hand.

Have shot about 500rds through and AMT back and about 500 through a cold officers model, I would compare the Glock 36s' recoil quite favorably to either of the pistols and think that it is far more manageable than the Kahr P40 in .40sw.

Glock 36s don't cost $600 new, unless you like paying too much for your guns. Right now they're available new for $484 + shipping and transfer fees from TopGlock.com but used you should be able to pick one up for $450 or less.

The pinky pinching issue can be addressed with your choice of several inexpensive aftermarket magazine baseplates. Personally I recommend growing a callous on your pinky and toughening up.

I hope that you get an opportunity to shoot a G36 and a G30 and as many other small .45s as you can before you buy. Some people just don't like the ergonomics or recoil characteristics of certains guns for a number of valid reasons. Fortunately we live in a country where the market places provides and interesting variety of personal defense firearms from which to choose, and a Glock 36 is just one of the choices out there. It's far from perfect, but for me it's one of the best compact .45s available.

 

[sigma 40ve]

My theory is--if you want it, get it. I have learned that if I don't follow this "rule", I regret alot of things.