Help with a few rifle values **Half pic heavy**

[byrdman]

Hello All

I have been asked to help out a family friend with selling most of his rifles. The problem is 1st I don't know much about the C&R scene, 2nd most have rust to some degree, 3rd some are missing at least one piece. So without further ado here they are (I will post pics in the am) I am only asking ballpark type numbers thanks guys.

1. Ariska type 38 WITH A INTACT "MUM" and bayonet with scabbard. It does have some rust but not God awful.


Sorry about the toes.


2. British Lee Enfield B.S.A. Co 1918 Sht L.E. III* that has been sporterized but has what I consider a beautiful Monte Carlo (I think) type stock. Some rust not to bad.




3. Italian Fucile Corto 91/38 6.5 carcano. Some rust on the trigger housing but most of the rifle has a very nice patina. (I may buy this one it just feels good and yes I know about the ammo issue)



4. Don't know if this is C&R but it is old, Springfield (J. Stevens Arms) Model 87M little to no rust, stock looks to either have never been varnished or someone at some point replaced it. Missing upper forearm and bands but other wise intact.



Any help will be gratefully accepted

 

[JT-AR-MG42]

Just not enough info on the Type 38 for me to reasonably put a value on. There is a definite market for matching bringbacks, especially with the mum intact.
The buttplate and front sight look like they are the earlier 'no series' Tokyo Arsenal (what looks like three cannnonballs stacked on the left receiver rail with serial no. running 1 to 2,000,000+) and the intact cleaning rod is a plus.
What is with the screw head sticking up on the top tang? It should be flush.

The serial number will not match the bolt or any other parts on the rifle. Instead, take a look at the bolt number and compare it with the safety, the bolt release, and the magazine floorplate. Those numbers - one to three digit assembly numbers - should match on an original rifle. That is the quick way to likely determine originality without taking the rifle all the way down.

A matching early 38 is not a real common gun, as most led a hard life even before their Chinese invasion.

Is the serial no. preceded by two or three zeros, indicating school or educational re-issue?
Without more info, I would say between 150 and 350 ballpark.

I also like the Italian rifles for no real reason. That one looks pretty clean and I would venture, without the folding bayonet, 100 to 150 tops. Not trying to lowball or anything. Just hard to put value off of a few nice clear photos.

I am dial up, so could not see the others, but I am not up on them at all anyway.

JT

 

[byrdman]

What is with the screw head sticking up on the top tang? It should be flush
its a round head screw if it is supposed to be flush it must be an add on

Is the serial no. preceded by two or three zeros, indicating school or educational re-issue?
NO

It is a "no series"