Here`s a BP Revolver I haven`t seen

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Check Cabelas ...Item 2UG-216473 I couldn`t get it to paste so you`ll have to look in the Cabelas site ....looks well built , kinda nice good PRICE too 239.00 and it`s a Uberti .
I got to thinking I`ve seen this gun somewhere before ...I did ..Dixiegunworks ..only Dixie calls it a Peacemaker and Cabelas calls it a Cattleman ...The one at Dixie is made by Pietta ...Cabelas gun is made by Uberti .......Dixie`s price 315.00 .....Cabelas price 239.00 ....big difference ..I might buy one at the Cabelas price .
 
yep that was mentioned about 3 weeks ago. its an 1873 saa. can only shoot bp though. it was once thought that you can change the cylinder to shoot cartridges however the hammer has an offset that hits the nipple. Meaning a lot of the guns internal parts would have to be changed in order for it to be made to shoot cartridges. As a black powder revolver though thats one heck of a deal.
 
Odd Cabelas has a Uberti ...I was thinking Pietta was the soul maker of those ......I must have missed the earlyer post on them ...
Gotta luv Cabelas !
 
It would be a good solid design for a newbie that wasn`t concerned about it being historically correct ...after all Ruger is no longer makeing the ROA ..
I always load my Remmies useing a cylinder stand ...not a problem at all , infact it gives me a chance to wipe the cylinder pin off , while its out .
 
Assuming one could find a conversion cylinder for the 1873 SAA you would also need to replace the firing pin and have the frame bored out to accomodate a firing pin that is centered on the hammer.

I dunno but I am betting that this gun is a shooter. Why care about the historical accuracy?
Certainly the Ruger is not historical and it is a great gun.

I doubt you could go wrong with an Uberti either from how they are spoken about here on this forum.
 
Mykeal ..here`s the product # for Dixie`s ..RH0426 on their site ...or if this works ...http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_92_187_189&products_id=879
Doesn`t look like it comes with a loading stand eaither ...I know Dixie sells the loading stand I`ve got one just like it I bought from them a few years ago ..it use on my Remmie cylinders .
Oops almost missed this one at Dixie ..it`s also a Pietta made ..with brass back strap ..more like the Uberti ...RH0428...http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_92_187_189&products_id=3473
 
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I just don't like it because of the loading stand. I like being able to load my revolver without the need of a loading stand.
 
Articap's link to the Cabela's page did not work for me - I just got a page that said Catalog items found and nothing else. However, a search on the item number works. I suppose Uberti used the name Cattleman since technically it isn't a Peacemaker or SAA.

Thanks for the links to the DGW site. I note that the grips are different on the two Pietta versions, in addition to the backstrap.

Finding a 'conversion' cylinder is easy; the original gun is a cartridge gun and is still sold in the US in that version. Cylinders are available from VTI Gun Parts. However, I think there's quite a bit more than changing cylinders and hammers and boring out the frame to allow this gun to fire cartridges. See my post on the other thread.

Bottom line: I have one of these guns, the Uberti version. It carries, points and shoots very nicely. But it's a PITA to load and has a serious cap shedding problem. Overall, it's not on my favorite gun list.
 
Yea but read the reviews at Cabelas ..and remember the Cabelas one is a Uberti ..the Dixie is a Pietta .
 
If I do get one it would be from Cabelas. I don't have an Uberti and this might be a good excuse to get one, lol. Already have two Pietta revolvers.

both the reviews on the Cabela site were pretty much favorable.

hmmm... The big 50 coming up in a couple of weeks, might be a good excuse for a fine present to myself.


Whoa, just noticed that today is my one year anniversary here on THR.

Ain't I special.
 
Sure you want to be special, Im283? :evil: Just askin’. Heck, am feelin’ free to speak, on account of having passed that half-century mark, myself – as have many others, here. (Well, a couple of ‘em, for sure, anyway.) Kind of a half-milestone, I reckon.

Allow me, if you will, to be the first to congratulate you upon your 1st anniversary, with the Cappers and Ballers.

As to the other: Remember, you’re only as old as everyone else says you are. Trick is, to get ‘em to say it, for true - out loud.

And, Sundance. ’M not sure if the problem, concerning cap expulsion, has been stressed as much as the stress over cap expulsion deserves. As only a suggestion, mind you; you might want to check a bit further into what’s been described as a shedding problem, where the caps are concerned.
 
Heck I`ve got a Bday comming up in a few weeks ..hummmm I don`t have one , and the way the prices have been going up ..by next year it will probally be 299.00 , I sure don`t need it but ..for the money , heck why not .Geeze I`ve had nothing but good luck with the Uberti`s I own .
 
If the revolver has a cap shedding problem which causes it to jam & doesn't allow it to fire more than one shot or so, then it's not a good functioning revolver even if Uberti does make it.
Maybe it's only the brand of caps or the nipples, but I have a feeling it's more than that. Every company puts out their fair share of junk.
I can remember when "Made in Italy" was nearly synonymous with being "Made in Hong Kong".
Maybe mykeal would be more than willing to sell his? :D
 
If the Uberti's or the Pietta's for that matter had a cap shedding problem I am guessing it would have been stongly mentioned in the reviews at Dixie and Cabelas.

I do not recall seeing it at all. Not to doubt what Mykeal is saying but maybe something had been done in the interim between when his was made and what they are doing now.

I think I am gonna roll the dice and try it.
 
We have a variation on this theme over here that may interest some of you.

As you know, we can’t own centrefire pistols under a certain barrel length; so an enterprising has thought of a way to get the next best thing. Basically this means taking a SAA and converting it to operate as a muzzle-loader but using smokeless powders.

The way this is achieved is as follows:

Firstly the rear periphery of the cylinder is taken off leaving the centre portion with the ratchet that is used to turn the cylinder. The lost metal is replaced with a separate plate, which contains a spring-loaded firing pin. Instead of boring the cylinder though to accept a cartridge (Oh how I wish!), the remaining threaded holes, into which the nipples were screwed, are enlarged to accept shotgun primers. These provide excellent ignition and do not break up and fall into the works. An added bonus in the UK is that shotgun primers and cheaper than caps!

The main pressure-bearing area of course is the cylinder, which needs to be modified in order to accept modern powders. To achieve this a sleeve, made form old gun-barrels, is inserted into the rear of each chamber. These sleeves are of uniform length and not only add the strength necessary; they also allow the ball to be seated to the correct depth.. You now have a gun that goes off every time, doesn’t jam up with broken caps and doesn’t suffer from binding due to BP fouling.

Here’s a pic from a magazine of the cylinder were you can see the ends of the sleeves:

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To load your SAA you use a loading-press similar to the one shown in Arcticap’s post no 8. With the sleeves fitted, the ball can now be loaded before the powder rather than after. The restricted capacity of the sleeve means it’s almost impossible to overload the cylinder, and turning it over, allows the powder to be poured through the hole for the shotgun primers.

After the primers have been inserted, the conversion ring is slipped over the rear of the cylinder and the whole assembly put back in the frame. After shooting, the cylinder is removed and the spent primers knocked out with a small screwdriver.

Here’s a pic of a completed SAA.

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These conversions are proofed for 3.5g of Bullseye behind a 142g lead ball. This may sound like a load of 'faffing about’ to you folks who are able buy a ‘proper SAA’ and use cartridges, but for us in the UK it’s the closest we can get to the real thing again.
 
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