Here's why the "panic buying" will continue throughout Obama's entire administration

[Golden Hound]

I just realized something: I don't think that prices of ARs and AKs and other evil weapons is EVER going to go down as long as Obama is president-elect or, eventually, president. Why? Simple - because as long as he's in office, and as long as both houses are Democrat controlled, and as long as he has these insanely anti-gun people in all of his key positions, it will be very easy for gun sellers to say "the ban could happen at any moment." And they'd be right.

This is not just a temporary thing here. This is going to last a long time. It'll last until Obama is out of office. Even if he only has one week left in office in his second term, people are still going to say he could pass a ban as a "parting shot." If he does in fact get elected to a second term, then people will say he could pass the ban because he's a "lame duck" president and has "nothing to lose." (And they'd be right.)

This is going to continue for the next four or eight years, people. It's not just going to fade away "as people come to their senses," to use the term that some have used.

Thoughts?

 

[SSN Vet]

And that's why the people who bothered to look beyond the liberal medias snow job to find out what Obama was really all about a year ago, started filling the shopping lists then.

Look back at the old threads. The "beat the ban" buying rush started around March of '08.

Who knows what the future holds?

But the man is what he is....and that's a leftist, who by comparison makes the likes of Al Gore and John Kerry look like RNC wanna bes.

 

[R.W.Dale]

This is going to continue for the next four or eight years, people. It's not just going to fade away "as people come to their senses," to use the term that some have used.

Thoughts?

At the rate we're going I think the market will eventually flood even with demand and interest high and it will turn into a buyers market in much the same way it is for SUV's and houses right now. This is a Bubble in every conceivable sense of the term...the EBRbubble

It'll happen trust me, a year, 6months, a week from now who knows. But eventually guy's will look into their closet and see $2K worth of ar15 and begin to think about what else they could do with that $$

 

[Eightball]

I think you are correct. It could be worse, though--the higher prices and continued buying will mean more money for firearms manufacturers, which which they should/might be keeping some in reserve for lawsuits or efforts to get some things overturned.

 

[Ragnar Danneskjold]

Yes, and no. Price has a direct link to supply and demand. Obviously what we're talking about here is a massive increase in demand, like we saw after the election, with supply no keeping up. Is the possibility of a ban going to continue throughout Hussein's whole presidency? Yes. But you're not taking into account that the amount of people who want to purchase EBRs is not going to remain at the same level. First of all, people who are inclined to purchase multiple EBRs make up a very very very small percentage of perspective EBR owners. Most people who want one, only want the one. And once they've acquired it, they are not really in the market for another one, so that will decrease the demand significantly. We saw a massive surge in demand, specifically from people who did not yet have an EBR but wanted one. Now that all those people have theirs, the demand will shrink. So regardless of a possible ban, demand is still going to trend down after the perspective market has fulfilled their desires.

For demand to be sustainable, and thus prices, the theory must assume that most EBR buyers want to buy more than one. This is simply not the case.

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

Look back at the old threads. The "beat the ban" buying rush started around March of '08.

It started long before that.You can see it starting in the fall of '06. Go find the posts right after Democratss took all those seats and announced Pelosi would be Speaker of the House. There were dozens of posts here guaranteeing she would implement a ban within the first 100 days.

 

[ToadPS]

Given the Democratic dominance of both houses of Congress, it is inconceivable to me that some Senator or Congressman will not put forward another AWB.

It's one of the key goals of the loony leftists. There is no way they will be able to restrain themselves; they will have to try again for a permanent ban. They'll load up the AWB Christmas tree with more ornaments then ever before because they think this is their big chance.

At that time, this EBR/ammo bubble will expand exponentially. I seriously doubt we've seen the worst of it. The highest prices you have seen in the past six weeks will be the starting point in the next round.

If the next AWB ban then fails to pass, the bubble will burst. If it passes, well, we 'ain't seen nuthin' yet.'

IMO.

 

[tpaw]

We can only blame ourselves for allowing it to happen. Arm chair warriors and Monday morning quarterbacking. Our own government failed us as well. The Chicago political system has been the most corrupt since the Al Capone Days and nothing was done about it. Look what's going on there today with the Governor. McCain's pick of Sara Palan for VP didn't help either. Many voters did not think she would have been able to handle the presidency if something happened to McCain. He could have picked a better candidate, and ran a better campaign.
On the other side of the coin, many Democrats are angry with Obama. Realizing he promised too much "Change", bit him in the butt. If you notice, a good amount of his cabinet is from the old school, with Hillary being one of them. Now that Hillary is back, Bill will be learching in the halls. The circus is back in town folks. If Coleman loses to Franken, all is lost. There's another scandal in itself.

 

[dbarile]

My crystal ball is broken, but I've never thought that we would return to 'pre-panic' prices. I expect that the people here who have said that prices will slack off after the first may be correct. My advice to those around me has been:

1. Wait until after Christmas if you can.
2. If really you want an AR etc. you'd best find the very best deal you can an buy it. (Shop hard first).
3. You might want to make sure you have abundant ammo on hand.
4. If you want to sell that AR or SKS, now is the time. You might not be able to later.
5. Buy those +10 round mags you've always dreamed about.

Do I think there will be an AR or SKS glut after Jan 20th? No but I would be happy to be proven wrong.

Do I think there will be a new AWB? Yes, the only question is when and how much will be tacked on it.

 

[BADUNAME37]

I got mine at the end

of '06, and I'm glad I did. I haven't had to buy a black rifle, magazines or ammo since then.

If I wanted the exact same thing today, prices would be at least double what I paid, if not triple, on everything I bought then.

 

[Frank4711]

Prices were already going down at the show this weekend, my dealer's stock is returning I think prices will level out.

 

[Mr_Rogers]

a. Not everyone buys multiple firearms.
b. The present surge is in a specific sector of the market.
c. A firearm for the average person is something you buy and keep unless you are really forced to sell it because of financial bad times.
d. There is a finite limit to the quantity of a none perishable item that can be sold.

We are seeing a surge now, this will recede later. That does not mean prices will reduce significantly unless large numbers of people sell off to get cash.

The "gun banners" have heard the message presented by the large increase in firearms sales. The anti-organizations will not back-off but there will be a lot of politicians out there who will provide more talk than action over future gun restrictions. The arguments are just not there to justify the political risk of new legislation unless a major event occurs that provides ammunition for more restrictions and, paradoxically, more violent public events may actually strengthen the populations determination to stay armed.

 

[Just Jim]

You haven't factored in the economy. That will tell the tale of what gun controls will be tried.

jj

 

[ConstitutionCowboy]

It'll happen trust me, a year, 6months, a week from now who knows. But eventually guy's will look into their closet and see $2K worth of ar15 and begin to think about what else they could do with that $$

Could be that in six months to a year that the $2,000.00 worth of AR's will look like those guns were bought at a bargain. Maybe even irreplaceable at twice the price.

Anyway, think of all the meat those arms will place on the table. In six months to a year it might take $2,000.00 to buy a single bag of groceries and those AR's will look like they saved you from starvation. That's how I see my arms.

It's the difference between buying a fish or buying a fishing pole. Give a man a piece of meat and feed him for a day. Teach him how to hunt and feed him for life(That's the updated version for those of us who don't live near a fishing pond).

Woody

 

[WardenWolf]

As long as the buyup continues, Obama and the Dimo'wits will be afraid to act. The sheer amount of mobilization they've seen recently has given them pause. If it stops, however, they will jump on it.

It's possible that they will just order the ATF to reclassify certain firearms as non-transferable Destructive Devices, and if they do that instead of passing a ban there will be damn little that can be done about it.

 

[Ky Larry]

The economy will control what happens to prices. In 6 month-year, if a lot of ebr buyers are laid off, those guns will be coming out of closets and hitting the used rifle racks. Also, our congress critters are a pretty stupid bunch.(See my signature.) However, I don't think they will forget what happened in the off-year elections in 1996. Jut my $0.02 worth. YMMV.

 

[R.W.Dale]

Anyway, think of all the meat those arms will place on the table. In six months to a year it might take $2,000.00 to buy a single bag of groceries and those AR's will look like they saved you from starvation. That's how I see my arms.

In the depression game in the united states was hunted to the edge of extinction in a very short time frame. If you're worried about providing for your family post apoclapse a horse and plow will be a much better investment.

If the worst happens life won't be like a certain Hank Williams Jr song

 

[Just Jim]

If you're worried about providing for your family post apoclapse a horse and plow will be a much better investment.

Better to have a good rototiller and stored gas. A horse will just be food on someones table and even if it lives you got to feed it every day.

Husien will probably do his worst to the gun world as he finishes his second term. After that it will be the Repubs turn again for 8 years.

jj

 

[R.W.Dale]

Better to have a good rototiller and stored gas. A horse will just be food on someones table and even if it lives you got to feed it every day.

But you cannot put a rototiller with another rototiller and have new little rototillers

Husien will probably do his worst to the gun world as he finishes his second term. After that it will be the Repubs turn again for 8 years.

I agree, I don't think anything to rock the boat will come down the pike till the second term is locked in. We are after all talkin about a man who ran for president for 4 years

 

[Shovelhead]

But you cannot put a rototiller with another rototiller and have new little rototillers

I thought that was where Garden Weasels came from.........

 

[Just Jim]

Just more mouths to feed and more to take care of.

But you cannot put a rototiller with another rototiller and have new little rototillers

 

[Bubba613]

Could be that in six months to a year that the $2,000.00 worth of AR's will look like those guns were bought at a bargain. Maybe even irreplaceable at twice the price.

Or it could be that in 6 months when nothing has happened in terms of gun control that people will return to their senses and realize they would rather eat than own 4 ARs. And those $1500 ARs will now be worth $500 because everyone is selling them and there is no demand.
That's my take on what will happen. Except it won't take 6 months. More like 3.

 

[22-rimfire]

I fully expect a new AWB with the Obama administration. It is just a question of when. But it is not changing my current buying habits. Been there and done that. I'm not going to pay a premium for an AR or AK. There will be more. Larger capacity magazines may become a problem, but I doubt it.

 

[R.W.Dale]

Or it could be that in 6 months when nothing has happened in terms of gun control that people will return to their senses and realize they would rather eat than own 4 ARs. And those $1500 ARs will now be worth $500 because everyone is selling them and there is no demand.
That's my take on what will happen. Except it won't take 6 months. More like 3

I agree, It never fails that when there's a bubble...and there is, investors refuse to believe that prices will do anything but go up from where they got in.

That's why they call it a bubble

 

[BADUNAME37]

I beleive

it will be just like anything where there is SUPPLY and DEMAND.

Look at the housing market several years ago. Look at fuel oil and gas prices last year.

When people start slowing down buying and the stores have a glut of black guns, they will be marking them up $100 over wholesale! When production has finally caught up and gone beyond demand, prices will plummet.

Just wait.